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Anonymous10/13/26, 03:41No.51328147
Okay, but seriously, how do I actually move to Japan and obtain citizenship (not just permanent residency) and fully integrate into their society? I want to integrate into their society, learn their language, marry one of their women, have children there and completely shed behind everything before so that I can literally become Japanese.
Also no I'm not a jeet, seamonkey or other flavour of shitskin.

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Anon10/13/26, 03:48No.51328155
>Also no I'm not a jeet, seamonkey or other flavour of shitskin.
get nuked with your shithole shitskin american pigreported
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Anon10/13/26, 04:30No.51328190
You kill yourself out of /jp/, dirty gaijin.
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Anon10/13/26, 04:31No.51328192
> so that I can literally become Japanese
No matter what you do or achieve you can't.
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Anon10/13/26, 04:48No.51328212
If you grew up and spent most of your life in your home country how can you expect to "become Japanese"? You can only become a fellow citizen of Japan, but you're not ever going to change your ethnicity or your first ~25 years of life, I'm assuming. Very silly desire.
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Anon10/13/26, 04:51No.51328216
Just so all of you nay-saying cucks know the more you tell me not to do it the more I want to do it to prove all you dooming faggots wrong

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Anon10/13/26, 05:01No.51328233
You will never be Japanese deal with it.
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Anon10/13/26, 06:54No.51328354
Well, never mind all that, OP. This has nothing to do with this thread, but would you just listen to me for a little bit? See, I went to the local Yoshinoya today. Right. Yoshinoya. And the damn place was packed so full of people, I couldn't even find a seat. So I looked around a bit, and I found a sign that said "150 yen off". What the hell is wrong with you people? Are you idiots or something? Any other day you wouldn't even think of going to Yoshinoya, but if it's 150 yen off, you all flock in here? It's just 150 fucking yen! 150 yen! And you're bringing the kids too. Look at that, a family of four going to Yoshinoya. Con-fucking-gratulations. And now the guy's going, "All right! Daddy's going to order the extra-large!" Shit, I can't watch any more of this.Yoshinoya should be fucking brutal. Two guys sit facing each other across a U-shaped table, and you never quite know if they'll suddenly just start a fight right there. It's stab-or-be-stabbed, and that's what so damn great about the place. Women and kids should stay the fuck away.Well, I finally found a seat, but then the guy next to me goes, "I'll have a large bowl with extra gravy!". So now I'm pissed off again. Who the fuck orders extra gravy these days? Why are you looking so goddamn proud when you say that? I was gonna ask you, are you really going to fucking eat all that gravy? I wanted to fucking interrogate you. For about a fucking hour. You know what? I think you just wanted to say "extra gravy".Now, take it from the Yoshinoya veteran. The latest thing among the Yoshinoya pros is this: Extra green onions. That's the ticket. A large bowl with extra onions, and egg. This is what someone who knows his shit orders. They put in more onions, and less meat. A large bowl with the raw egg, that's really fucking awesome. Now, you should know, if you keep ordering this, there's a risk employees might write you up. This really is a double-edged sword. I really can't recommend this for amateurs.And you, OP, well, you should really just stick to today's special.
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Anon10/13/26, 13:15No.51328753
You don't. You could before, I did it, but they're raising the requirements on everything now. I'm glad I got citizenship years ago instead of waiting.Japan is full. We don't want any more people coming here. Take the hint.
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Anon10/13/26, 13:23No.51328771
The typical path I’ve seen is:1) quit an underperforming life overseas to enroll in language school in Japan
2) fuck around for two years without building the skills or experience to actually stay in Japan
3) as your language school wraps up, freak out and apply to hundreds if not thousands of jobs across Japan
4a) beg employers for sponsorship so you can stay in the country, or
4b) marry a Japanese person to stay in a marriage visa4b is easier for the white gyaru-ish weeb influencers, and desu that is basically how all of them stay in Japan after a temporary working holiday / language school stay. 4b is basically closed off to guys unless you’re extremely attractive and have a very good grasp of Japanese.
4c) both of those fail -> return home after wasting a few years of your life and building nothing tangibleJokes aside, the actual stay is work your way up to director/VP level at a large international company and somehow get the expert visa to be sent to Japan, or built the world-class skills needed for Japanese companies to *want* to sponsor you. This shifts the power dynamic from “gaijin begging companies for sponsorship” to “Japanese companies are actively recruiting an extremely talented foreigner,” but this is also much much harder, is not guaranteed to happen, and would require extensive education (MBA/MS/PhD level), technical or people leadership experience, niche skills Japan demands, and an otherwise extremely successful life abroad which does not at all match with the life otaku foreigners tend to lead.
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Anon10/13/26, 14:08No.51328898
You'd probably either need to be independently wealthy before going or have some kind of in demand, high paying job to be accepted. They aren't going to give you citizenship if all you're doing is working minimum wage jobs or doing dubious freelance work.
> I want to integrate into their society, learn their language
You're likely going to have to do these things first, just to prove you're worthy of it. You might also be able to speed up the process if you marry a Japanese woman first , but you'd be hard pressed to do even that if you can't speak Japanese, unless you manage to find a woman who speaks fluent enough English to form a relationship with. There are also some devastating blackpills you may have to swallow regarding modern Japanese women but I won't go into that here.You'd also have to given up your presumably US citizenship to do it too. We had a family friend, white guy, who basically did everything you want to do. He spoke and read the language, married a Japanese woman, had a kid with her, even taught a class on Japanese religions at a college (in the US) and wrote at least one book on the topic, yet he never obtained Japanese citizenship because he still had things to do here.Despite what people here may tell you, I think you should follow your dream. This family friend passed away but I'd like to think he did so after living a happy and full life, doing exactly what he wanted. It will be hard and you might not make it, but wouldn't it be nicer to live with a residency in Japan even if you never make it to full citizen than it is living wherever it is that you live now?
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Anon10/13/26, 14:31No.51328932
>Also no I'm not a jeet, seamonkey or other flavour of shitskin.
but you're american, the real shitskin. you americans are a huge disease of fat disgusting shitskin screeching subhuman pigs
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Anon10/13/26, 14:37No.51328942
if you go to nippon you wont be able to integrate, not even the 3rd and 4th gen koreans can integrate.you should just go to russia. what you want is actually possible there and they have a legal pipeline for it. you dont even have to know russian at first to initiate that process. you might have to fight in ukraine though, it remains to be seen.

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Anon10/13/26, 14:42No.51328955
You can't even integrate into /jp/.
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Anon10/13/26, 15:34No.51329044
If you wanted to do this you should have done it 20 years ago. Now, the government is closing off pretty much every "easy" immigration avenue, and traditional gaijin jobs like ALT or Eikaiwa are dying because of both AI and a declining market.
Your only option these days is a business manager visa (which requires a 200,000 dollar USD investment, physical office space and having at least one Japanese employee hired full time) or be an expert with at least 10 years experience in a very specific, highly demanded field. But of course if you have that kind of experience you'd make more money literally anywhere else except Japan.
Marriage is still an option but it's highly scrutinised (as in, you need to prove to the government you have been in a relationship for a while) and even when you get in, it needs to be constantly renewed and you are limited as to how much you can work under a spouse visa so better hope your wife can provide for both of you.
It's also worth noting that every single one of these options requires you to be fluent in japanese BEFORE you even get there.At this stage it's just not worth it. Wait a decade or two for Japans economy to collapse due to depopulation and then they'll likely be opening the doors to immigration
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Anon10/13/26, 16:24No.51329099
>visit Japan
>throw yourself off the nearest cliff into the ocean
>reincarnate as Japanese
ez
but be careful and choose Pacific ocean side, or you risk to become Korean, Chinese or Russian instead
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Anon10/13/26, 17:20No.51329183
I find that it's impossible for 99% of Westerners because of differing spiritual beliefs. Even a lot of other Asians can't really integrate well into Japan.
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Anon10/13/26, 20:47No.51329606
OP are you chinese or korean? it might make it easier if you exist on the same cultural plane as them
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Anon10/13/26, 21:35No.51329675
look anon, if ken-sama did it im sure you can too!!!

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Anon10/13/26, 21:50No.51329699
Whatever you do please don't become a JETcuck.
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Anon10/13/26, 22:51No.51329839
>tfw born too late to experience the heisei retro futurism of 80s-early 10s japan
>tfw will never experience wearing a (non-christcuck) sharp school uniform, traversing the comfy streets of suburban japan, or own neat consumer electronics and gadgets because steve jobs flattened all technology into a glass slab
Why even live?
>inb4 you can still run pure HTML/CSS blog sites
I'm not a neocities tranny and every time a westoid tries to recreate the aesthetic it just looks sloppy.

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Anon10/13/26, 23:33No.51329986
is OP young enough for the holiday working visa?need to know what country he's in
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Anon10/13/26, 23:54No.51330025
if im fluent in jap, 6'2 and look like a swole tom cruise, would i be able to get hired as a bouncer at tokyo night clubs?
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Anon10/14/26, 02:09No.51330196
I'm visiting for the first time in a couple months I think we will all get along ^_^
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Anon10/14/26, 03:26No.51330294
I’m the guy who has the more meritocratic POV on immigration (advocating for STEM PhD, MBA, etc.). I get what you’re saying, but to be frank, I’d prefer to have immigrants who *are willing* to do the jobs that Japan needs. It doesn’t matter what your skin color or race/ethnicity are if you’re fine with working as a cashier at a conbini, operating a train, or working on construction and manufacturing. I’d much rather Japan have that than someone who is only an English teacher (endlessly replaceable) or who works as a host.
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Anon10/14/26, 03:27No.51330295
Also, I’d deport Konnichiwarts yesterday
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Anon10/14/26, 04:21No.51330354
Sorry OP, we accidentally hijacked the thread, and half of it is useless to you.
Everyone has expressed their thoughts. Best of luck with whatever decision you end up making.
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Anon10/14/26, 21:21No.51331962
i feel you OP. if i were more motivated i would try to do it too. i hate living in cuckada too
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Anon10/15/26, 01:52No.51332442
A shame, I was hoping to hear more from the serious ones here.
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Anon10/16/26, 01:38No.51334400
bump
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Anon10/16/26, 01:48No.51334410
quit your clitty leaking and go back to /pol/ or the bald men with glasses website
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Anon10/16/26, 20:24No.51335952
Does any anon have that old image of rules that gaijins must follow while in jp?
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Anon10/16/26, 20:30No.51335965
Stop bumping this shitty thread. You got all replies you could possibly get. Do your own research and fuck off.
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Anon10/16/26, 20:38No.51335979
you can't, they never give foreigners citizenship, they barely give them residency, Japan is very racistwhy do you think an anime like bestirs was so successful there?they even reject asians from other countrieswhy do you even want to live in Japan?
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Anon10/16/26, 20:41No.51335984
I meant to say beastars.
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Anon10/17/26, 03:36No.51336520
moving to japan actively deteriorates the qualities that make people admire japan to begin with. stay home
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Anon10/17/26, 03:58No.51336539
Who are you quoting?
Just go back man. Your thread is awful and you got all answers you needed. You're obviously not even from here, crossboarder scum. You want to assimilate in another country while being an individualistic cunt who can't even assimilate on a board for Touhou, eroge and hot glue.
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Anon10/17/26, 04:01No.51336544
for someone who claims not to be brown, you easily enter a frothing rage just like one. also along with not internalizing moral and social responsibility... you are far from internalizing a japanese spirit, which is certainly necessary, because you won't have a japanese exterior anytime soon. sage.
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Anon10/17/26, 04:06No.51336551
Who are you quoting? Are you pretending to be retarded?
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Anon10/17/26, 04:08No.51336553
>still playing dumb
>erm... who are you quoting??
quite literally a "i know you are but what am i" tier response
no more (You)s for you
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Anon10/18/26, 12:54No.51339312
Weebs wanting to move to japan nowadays is pretty funny because japan is now in full anti-foreigner mode and their chud president won by the largest margin in the history of their democratic history
I find it funny because you know they dont want you there but will still want to move there and shit up the country despite claiming it to "respect" the country and its customs
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Anon10/18/26, 22:02No.51340413
Doesn't this betray Samurai virtues?
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Anon10/19/26, 10:58No.51341709
And that’s something you can always drag them for. *oh, you’re a strong independent woman who hates men online, but you’re pretty much only living there because of a man. You didn’t stay there for yourself, as you were never good enough to make it independently.*
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Anon10/20/26, 02:26No.51343373
No backup plan. I would insist on being there, lest they become the enemy.
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Anon10/20/26, 05:13No.51343538
I came here with a scholarship for Masters and PhD. Now I'm trying to get a postdoc. If you speak Japanese and you aren't retarded, it's easy.
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Anon10/20/26, 14:42No.51344335
Well the enemy is the USA. They can certainly afford to not be that with towers of game and anime and manga companies prospering for decades. Or am I making an erroneous assumption already?
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Anon10/20/26, 15:24No.51344413
Is it actually worth it? life in Japan seems miserable as an adult
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Anon10/20/26, 16:50No.51344602
I'm planning to move there next year and feel good about it. I just wish I'd gotten my shit together and committed to moving there in my twenties instead of my early thirties.Between my savings and a rental property I own in the states, I should be able to live over there without working for a while. I'm going to attend a language school for around a year and try to pass N2 by the end of my time there.
I'm still working on my BS in software engineering right now (I'm attending an online failson school), but I should have that done after I've been in Japan for about six months. I figure I'll be a dancing monkey at an eikaiwa or work part-time at a convenience store for part of 2027 and possibly 2028.
Worst case scenario, I'll be an ALT for a bit after I get my bachelor's, but I think I could tolerate that for a year or two since I'd have a source passive income overseas.

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Anon10/22/26, 15:20No.51347123
https://www.yolo-japan.co.jp/yolo-work/8142#toc6
I found this saying the Japs may not betray. What do you think, does it mean what the translation says?
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Anon10/22/26, 15:34No.51347157
I'm not planning on moving permanently to Japan, but I've heard of a strat where you periodically visit south korea every time your short term visa is up and just return for a new cycle. Is that viable in the long term? Assuming for extended vacation/retirement/leisure.
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Anon10/22/26, 17:08No.51347363
>citizenship/PR
now? hah, good luck, shit just got a lot harder since last year. you better either have a lot of money to throw at business visa or you get hired by a company who is willing to pay you more than double the salary of a fresh college japanese graduate. either one requires more than 10 years continuously. thats not counting the upcoming reviews of those that already have citizenship/PR but thats unrelated to you.
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Anon10/22/26, 20:03No.51347889
https://files.catbox.moe/cuf0bm.mp4