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Anonymous09/13/26, 13:43No.77514286
>Sunday Thread for talking about fitness or whatever
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Anon09/13/26, 13:56No.77514308
I'm paralyzed by overthinking making important big decisions.
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Anon09/13/26, 14:20No.77514337
I hate to be meta but why are any of you good people still on this site
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Anon09/13/26, 14:36No.77514362
I'm in pretty good shape despite not being in a gym for over 2 months. Been talking to a woman. I think she might end up being my next girlfriend, we'll see. I don't want to get myself worked up, but I also don't want to play it too aloof and have her lose interest. There are other women I'm interested in, too
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Anon09/13/26, 14:37No.77514363
>sore hamstrings
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Anon09/13/26, 14:46No.77514373
>tfw 35 yo virgin es it over für mich
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Anon09/13/26, 14:51No.77514384
It's been months and my shoulder is still funny. Not exactly pain but a funny feeling. I tried to take 1 week off, training carefully, increasing the load a bit and the sensation is still there. What the fuck can I do? Just continue and learn to live with this?
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Anon09/13/26, 15:25No.77514432
>32 >Good job - £60k a year >Own my own home >In the best shape of my life >Should be happy but >No friends >No social life >No gf >Just spend every weekend alone in my house >Feel no direction or ambition in life Life without people in it really is just miserable. I find myself watching sicoms or RLM and just dreaming about having a close groups of buddies to do shit with
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Anon09/13/26, 15:47No.77514460
>business I started isn't doing well >got into a car accident last Sunday. Other driver didn't have insurance, and my car is likely totaled >got told Thursday I'm more than likely losing my job soon >Meta account got hacked and banned on saturday, so I can't use any Meta platform for ads.This has been the worst week I've had in quite some time. However, I'm trying to stay positive. I'm hoping insurance totals my car so I can buy the salvage title back, fix it myself, and have money left over to keep in savings or maybe pay down my credit card. Just gotta keep moving, fellas.
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Anon09/13/26, 16:01No.77514477
If my scale isn't lying to me I might be able to hit sub 300lbs. Probably one of the biggest accomplishments in my life.
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Anon09/13/26, 16:34No.77514528
I had a meltdown on the big boss last week. To make a long story short he randomly started micromanaging and nit picking things. I already had to work a 14 hour shift (was supposed to be 10, and apparently I’m not going to get paid for the extra 4) and the faggot wanted to tell me I couldn’t do various bullshit he was making up on the fly. For instance I use a tablet for some data entry, he randomly decided I wasn’t allowed to use it and it’s only for a certain title. I have always used that tablet for years now without issue. HE was the one who first gave it to me. He up and down insisted and swore that I must have been lying because it was never for me to use. No one else needed it btw. He expected me to do my bullshit work with pen and paper knowing even with the tablet I was going to be working late. Then he stopped me from walking the shortcut route to the other office said I had to go the long way. He kept doing this the whole day until I snapped and confronted him just constant petty rules whenever he could find something to make up and critique on. This dude has been out to get me fired since I started I remember coming back from the bathroom to him saying “yeah I’m gonna get him fired” when I was still training in my 3rd shift years ago. So I blew up on him and his rat shit assistant. The assistant was scared shitless because I’m tall and built fat like a smaller Brian Shaw and it’s terrifying to people when I get actually that upset he got ready for something physical. I called them both faggots and said what big boss was doing was bullshit. The bitch boy assistant had also given me that tablet hundreds of times and swore I was lying about ever having used it then wanted to laser on the topic of the tablet when my entire point was that if the big boss has a problem then he should fucking address it instead of using nonsensical made up rules that didn’t exist for the last 3 years. Idgaf if I get fired, theres a lawsuit waiting for them
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Anon09/13/26, 16:48No.77514549
I played baseball all yesterday for a charity event. My legs and traps are really sore, so I am spending the day making food, watching sports and going to church. Sprints are amazing.
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Anon09/13/26, 16:58No.77514561
>tfcc tear >no lifting what the fuck do i do now? anyways, hit 195lbs lost today. 5 more lbs to go
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Anon09/13/26, 17:33No.77514611
I never had a girlfriend, so i thought i could give it a try and downloaded tinder. But i haven't gotten even a single like so far. I am not sure if it's because i am ugly or because maybe i am shadowbanned for some reason.
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Anon09/13/26, 20:42No.77514901
tired of going into my gym and seeing 90% of the people in there not cracking a single sweat. don't even get me started on the motherfuckers who take up the treadmills to do a 30 minute walk up a 3% inclination that aren't even old or disabled. i've counted like 5 people who actually work out from a population of 200 regulars and yes i am being a bitch about it. get the fuck off my treadmill and go for a walk outside faggots.
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Anon09/13/26, 20:45No.77514909
Does it matter if ugly girls are into you? I was at a wedding dinner and a 30 year old hag (4/10 looks, not fat but ugly face) started a convo with me and she is about to get married next year and she was telling me her wild stories of her travelling and she was telling me a story about her Italian uber driver who was into her and wanted her but she didn't do anything because of her fiance, and i told her: >was he good looking? >yeah he looked like you And long story short before i left she asked me for my phone number and when im visiting the city again etc
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Anon09/13/26, 20:50No.77514921
I hooked up with my FWB this weekend. She's a chubby 6.5/10 that does the kinks I like but outsid eof that there's no way I'd ever take her seriously. This past weekend we got on the subject of celecrity crushes and I say Sophia Lillis, Keira Knightly, Lucy Liu, etc. After I told her this she got very insecure and was asking why I was fucking a girl like her. And after thinking on it, my answer (that I didn't say to her) is that I have no other choice.I live in fucking Muttmerica where 75% of our population is overweight and ~50% are obese. Meaning 3/4 women are fat at the minimum and every other woman is a blob. To make matters worse I live in the fucking Midwest where EVERYONE is fat by 25. You tell me where I'm suppose to find a skinny, in shape girl like my crushes.Even funnier is that I went over to an aunt's place and they were looking at old photos from the 60s, 70s, and 80s. OH MY FUCKING GOD. A 6.5/10 back then is like a 9/10 now. >no shitty tattoos >amazing long, natural hair >no overuse of makeup >a shirt and jeans is common for like every pic instead of nonstop whore-wear >everyone is smiling a genuine smile instead of the 1 that is clearly chasing social media clout to "show" you had a "good time" >several redheads i immediately fell in love with >the only fat women are in their 60s+ >talking to older women they have actual, genuine personalities BoomerX men had it so fucking easy back then.So yeah, I DO have to settle for your fatass cuz I got no other option in this shithole country.
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Anon09/13/26, 21:01No.77514943
can i get some feedback on my workout regime i did today pretty plz ? >30 pull ups, 30 dips (5 x 6 reps each with a goal of getting back to sets of 10). >15 minutes 20kg weighted steps (aiming to up to 30kg by December) >100 weighted squats (10kg, sets of 20) >5 minutes planking with knee tucks (10 tucks each, 1 minute planks with 15 second rests) >50 russian twists (8kg medicine ball) >3 mile run (25 - 28 mins usually) >30 minutes rowing machine >12kg dumbell shoulder press 5 x 10 sets i'm aiming for a otter-body more so for muscle mass development.
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Anon09/13/26, 22:18No.77515057
Asked my mom last week if she had any inheritance money she could put in my retirement account for just a one time transfer. I never once asked her for money since I moved out at 21 which was 8 years ago so I knew it was a gamble. She blew up at me and we had a huge argument for an hourI'm doing great financially but after this I feel like I don't owe my parents any financial help in the future even when I become a millionaire
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Anon09/13/26, 22:26No.77515065
Got rejected after three rounds for a life changing position that I thought I was a shoo-in for. Networked and had good correspondence with some people at the firm, even had a couple one-on-ones with the managing partner there. Made it through a screening, first round, and in the second round they were even asking me questions that sounded more like onboarding than a standard interview.I try not to get my hopes up on things like this, but it hurts bros. Gonna hit pull and contemplate life tonight.
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Anon09/13/26, 22:28No.77515069
I just started running again and I'm really excited. It always makes me feel nice to be exercising, and I'm signing up for a Tureky Trot 5k with my wife so I have something to look forward to. I'm trying to take better care of myself but it just seems like I'm getting more random aches and pains everydayI just turned 40 so Im thinking about talking to a doctor about TRT but I'm terrified desuMy job is really wearing me down. Im running a small branch and we're expanding so fucking fast, but the main office isn't really offering any help and they keep giving me shitty brown employees who hate working and won't stop fucking up. I love my company and the work that we do but I just feel like Im drowning and it keeps getting worse.Im trying to start a band with a couple guys and we're getting better and better each practice session, but we live in Miami which has an almost dead live music scene, so I don't know if we're really ever going to play out much
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Anon09/13/26, 22:58No.77515126
Did a PR on leg press, and now I'm sitting in the shower trying not to vomit, trying not to shit myself. 340lbs 8 reps for 4 sets. From 320lbs 12 reps for 4 sets.
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Anon09/14/26, 02:11No.77515366
was browsing this board now im demoralized for being skinny
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Anon09/14/26, 02:44No.77515406
I was told all my life to be as helpful as possible. Offer support, advice, resoueces, to do nice things for others, to let them know if I'm worried about them and why. But this week I had some pretty outspoken "DO NOT FUCKING HELP DO NOT FUCKING TELL ME WHAT TO DO YOU DONT KNOW WHATS GOOD FOR ME OR NOT" and others that let me know its NOT good to help/advise, they have to do it/figure it out themselves. I realize now why I actually have so few friends. I'm an overbearing control freak. I dont know how to rebuild any kind of relationships and tell them I swear I won't involve myself in their lives anymore, and frankly I realize I dont know how. When someone tells you about a shitty event going on in their life, how do you respond? I try to say i understand that shit sucks, and offer ways to make it less shitty (no, I dont evangelize). How do i stop doing that?
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Anon09/14/26, 03:16No.77515431
A botique hotel is opening near me aka a whore place. I might be losing a lot of money every paycheck now..
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Anon09/14/26, 03:18No.77515437
Don't come around here often anymore but todays the day. Gear is ordered. Little too high bodyfat to start but gonna keep my estrogen and blood pressure in line manually until I drop it. Had to drop this here because i've been here for years longing for the day. The mental health has won, its all or nothing time now. Time to get happy again :D (getting therapy after too). Wish me luck or failure, I may finally get away once and for all.
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Anon09/14/26, 04:01No.77515491
>still live with my parents in my 30s because im a complete fucking loser >every year they go on vacation for a week or two, they are coming back tomorrow after a week off >get to see what it would be like living alone (because god knows i will never have a girlfriend or wife or kids or any family anyway) if i was to get an apartment or something else i cannot afford >just wake up alone, go to my daily routine alone, come home alone, cook and eat alone, go to bed alone, every single dayit isnt like when my parents are home were doing stuff together, always talking, etc. i barely speak to them anyway. but its really shown me how no matter how lonely i am now, if im still alive when my parents die, the loneliness is going to be incomprehensible.
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Anon09/14/26, 09:35No.77515900
So whoever called me narcissist last thread, while I don't like self diagnosing, I think you might be correct. I will be making efforts to notice when I'm avoiding being myself to protect my self esteem.
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Anon09/14/26, 09:48No.77515915
God, I love the part of the relationship that's slightly past the initial infatuation, but before you start hating each other. This magical place where you're learning more about one another, you do both really cool things but also super simple ones like cooking a meal together.
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Anon09/14/26, 10:07No.77515939
Yo
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Anon09/14/26, 14:50No.77516209
I have no purpose in life, i just work, sleep and eat. I have nothing else.
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Anon09/14/26, 15:06No.77516236
How can i work weed out of my system reliably and quickly? I wanna apply for a job that drug tests, I only get high on weekends but I've been on a slight bulk which means ive stored fat... shoukd i just quit smoking entirely then go in a rapid suicide cut with intense cardio to sweat it out? I'm scared a rando drug test will give me away even if I quit weed. I guess I know its slso hurting my gains a bit.
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Anon09/14/26, 17:31No.77516425
I eat out a lot is there a guide somewhere to focus on what foods to eat like a rough calories/carbs/fat for resturants? even if it's fast food related? fuck man the whole cooking for yourself and then counting every single calories is annoying to me. money isn't too much an issue.
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Anon09/14/26, 17:33No.77516432
my mental problems are getting out of control, but I'm running a lot more and lifting still
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Anon09/14/26, 17:33No.77516433
boss told me in private he is going going through a divorce right now. he and his now ex-wife used to own the company I work for 50/50. now I dont know whats going to happen we are small with just a handful of people I worked here for the past 10 years. I dont want to find something new, this shit affects me as well. fucking bitch nigger wife.
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Anon09/14/26, 18:17No.77516507
I know you are guys and probably bad at this but I don't want to ask my friends. It is both too unserious and serious to talk about. I have, like many, a crush. The point is, is there harm in indulging in small daydreams every now and then or should I force myself to image him with a partner and shut it out of my mind? I'm too busy to become really obsessive and sad and the thoughts are comforting, but I know it's unhealthy. >inb4 it will pass I know, but it takes time
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Anon09/14/26, 18:38No.77516542
>gymming >gymhoe wearing skimpy clothes comes to do hypers next to me >looks at me, visibly sighs then ties hoodie around her waist to conceal her gymshark gymbutt from the gymcreep (me) I wasn't even looking, nigga
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Anon09/14/26, 21:18No.77516789
digits and my gym crush is waiting for me to make a move
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Anon09/14/26, 21:55No.77516855
I keep having dreams where I have a wife and kids. I'm going to be a wizard soon.
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Anon09/14/26, 22:15No.77516890
>egf is away again I miss her bros, why are women fucking stupid
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Anon09/15/26, 00:50No.77517136
anyone else really sucks at academia? I went back to college, holy fuck I cant study for shit and half of the material doesnt even interest me, I think I might've lost the passion for it
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Anon09/15/26, 15:35No.77518192
Life is unfair
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Anon09/15/26, 17:11No.77518363
Nah it's over, I went to a date last week with a girl (who had the dog if you scroll up) and I was going to see her today after a week or so but she cancelled telling me that she had period and we can talk over phone but she did end up going to the dog park. It's over
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Anon09/15/26, 18:28No.77518482
I cold approached a girl who was walking her dog and the dog ended up being from a shelter and she wanted to give him away. We went for a walk with her and the dog a few days later. Obviously i liked her and we were walking for a few hours and the girl asked me if i wanna continue the talk at a coffee shop or something. I left the dog at her place and we went for a coffee and driving around the town. We had good chemistry and same music taste and vidya taste and overall it was 8/10 experience. Then i left her at her house and when i called her 2 days later she was with a friend and we talked for like a min, then we didn't talk for 2 days and she sent me a pic of the place i work and told me she was passing buy.Then we scheduled for seeing her today and she cancelled last min telling me to go for a coffee in a few days or so because she had her period and if we can talk over the phone today. And when I called her she was literally at the dog park so the period wasn't an issue and she was just avoidant. It's pretty much over. Maybe it's the age gap? I'm 33 she is 23
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Anon09/15/26, 21:27No.77518749
Ended things with FWB after she started showing signs she A) wanted a relationship and B) threw out too many red flags to be around even casually. >mfw deleting and blocking everything after reading the final straw text Modern women fucking suck. If you found "the one" I envy you but I also suspect you are lying.
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Anon09/15/26, 23:08No.77518890
>multiple girls at my work are nice to me >Immediately think they're all in love with me How do I stop this behavior
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Anon09/16/26, 06:58No.77519511
>had a pretty terrible ex >decide to just let it go and forego dating because i'm fucking tired >suddenly more women talk to me than when I was trying to find someone to date What is this bullshit
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Anon09/16/26, 21:55No.77520691
I've got COVID right before a relatively's wedding and now I can't go. Nothing else is going through my mind rn I'm just pissed
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Anon09/16/26, 22:26No.77520731
My life is a boring meaningless piece of shit where I just go to work and the gym. I need to buy a different car. Should I just say fuck it and pull money out of my stock investments and get a car I actually want instead? All I've had to drive for 18 years has been old junk.
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Anon09/17/26, 08:27No.77521483
Whiskey please. >overheard my mom calling me a failure I can understand her point since I barely have any money, but jeez that hurts.
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Anon09/17/26, 13:10No.77521779
WAGMI lads. The cuties are waiting you too
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Anon09/17/26, 15:14No.77521905
Met a girl and we talking. How long is this talking phase suppose to be? We are both 33. I'm used to fucking 20 year old where its like a day of talking then a month or two of situationship before ghosting each other.
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Anon09/17/26, 17:43No.77522192
I don't understand how people meet and date women, they're evil creatures.
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Anon09/17/26, 17:44No.77522195
What are some /fit/ approved karaoke songs? I'm going out to karaoke tomorrow and the day after. Need ideas.
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Anon09/17/26, 19:59No.77522411
When did it happen to you?
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Anon09/17/26, 20:23No.77522445
Guys I think the cute, fit, black receptionist wants my big Korean cock; how do I get her to agree to have sex with me?
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Anon09/17/26, 21:20No.77522540
I feel like life temporarily takes breaks from kicking my ass just to start kicking twice as hard as the last time when I think things may be going better. It’s always all the bullshit at once. Rough week at work and now my car took a shit on me, down $1k. Which is 10% of my savings. I just rebuilt that after I lost 10% handling other life bullshit a few months ago. When it rains it pours.Worst of all I don’t feel like a man. Talked to the shop guy >i-i was getting this indicator and thought I could put it off until this weekend a-and this happened and that and it won’t start now >dad comes in after me and talks to the guy I’m 30. Oh well. At least I’m paying for it with my own money. Got a tow for the first time on my own too.
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Anon09/17/26, 22:16No.77522636
Health wise i am pretty fucked though i look young and fit I'm not at all Feet always hurt often go numb. Same with my hands there's often a stinging tingly pain in them. Lungs are fucked can cough up phlegm on command Always tired can never sleep. Right side of upper belly hurts all the time quite possibly my liver, even though I stopped drinking alcohol a week ago Always thirsty, but no amount of water quenches my thirst I am so unbelievably fucked. It's so over Im in my twenties this wasn't supposed to happen
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Anon09/18/26, 02:21No.77522945
>meditate and working out >still an anxious mess fuck, I don't know what to do now.
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Anon09/18/26, 02:34No.77522953
Almost 1000 days sober and I just want to neck a bottle of soju and be happy
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Anon09/18/26, 10:27No.77523429
Idk what to do with my time or life. I feel like I’m just waiting to die and doing the absolute bare minimum to make the time tolerable. I tried to be normal, I spent my youth trying. 18-27 I tried to socialize and have friends and date and get a good real career. Maybe it’s all my fault and I’m just naturally fucked up and would have wound up like this anyways, maybe it’s all the bullshit I had to experience as a young kid. I don’t know. The only thing that sounds remotely ideal to me is the idea of having about 10-20 acres that I can just be a recluse on and only have to work to sustain myself via animals and plants and land maintenance. The problem isn’t ethic or effort. The problem is dumb jobs and other people. I don’t think I’m unique for this by any means but I don’t think I’m built for this gay normie world.
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Anon09/18/26, 14:45No.77523648
Anyone has a serious problem with day dreaming? Feel like I waste the majority of my time day-dreaming about random shit to entertain me.
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Anon09/18/26, 17:57No.77523916
Had a date two days ago and she cancelled of me because of her period cramps and we rescheduled for today with no definite timing and we haven't talked yet and the day is almost over. It's over right?
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Anon09/18/26, 18:00No.77523921
>finish dinner at 8pm >sleep >wake up sweating at 1am
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Anon09/18/26, 18:03No.77523926
>my parents are finally about to be grand parents, I'm about to be an uncle >They still aren't really trying to lose weight, they're going to be obese and unable to run around and play with their grandson I've tried to explain CICO to them so much. I've told my mom that when shes cooking food she just has to weigh it out and figure out how many calories is on a plate. she keeps agreeing, but she just won't do it. >"I'm just not used to doing it." I seriously feel like I'm going to have to start cooking all their meals for them otherwise they just won't lose weight.
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Anon09/18/26, 18:44No.77523983
>Forgot my straps on diddly day >Now my hands are sore and it's gonna hurt to fap tonight
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Anon09/18/26, 18:54No.77523997
I’m appalled by my inability with women Everything else is going great, physique, money, family, work, social life and even athletic ambitions. I’m texting a couple and we manage to go out, but apart from that, no sex or relationship ever comes out of it I want children but I kind of gave up at this point. Turns out, opera is fun btw Anyone is or was in the same situation as me?
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Anon09/18/26, 21:05No.77524152
Might go get my dick rubbed at a sketchy massage parlor
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Anon09/18/26, 22:14No.77524226
Howdy barkeep, iced tea for me >Talking to a girl since June >She keeps disappearing then re-appearing >For the third time she tells me she wants to get together, says she's practically begging. >Tells me her Friday night is free and would love to see her >Tell her I don't drink and I'm on a cut (she's an fbb) so name a time and place that isn't a restaurant >She says she gets it and looks forwards to it >Immediately ghosts >Said she wanted to call that night >Call >Number blocked So thankfully I have backup girls but dating in 2026 is sickening. I want to make social gains and do something like a sports league but that seems kind of gay. Pray for me brothers as I pray for you all, we need a wives and not fickle little children. The good news is, is that next time I go for arm day, I get to hit 120lbs on machine preacher curls for reps, just gotta look at that silver lining...
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Anon09/19/26, 03:05No.77524503
It's 5AM and I'm reminiscing again
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Anon09/19/26, 07:33No.77524757
I haven't seen my father in almost a decade but I still feel venom welling up inside me instantly whenever I think of him. If he was merely neglectful or alcoholic, that would have been one thing, but I neither can nor want to forgive his deliberate and casual malice towards me.
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Anon09/19/26, 09:13No.77524827
almost became plapjak this week but i couldnt do it she wasn't obese or anything, just short and chubby with massive tits. clearly some kind of mental illness going on too that became very apparent when we got back to my place. it was pretty clear she'd let me hit it if i made a move, but she smelled like BO because we went for a walk beforehand. not that it was really her fault, i got sweaty too. but i had to clean my sofa with white vinegar after she left because the smell wouldn't go away on its own. i didn't want to hurt her feelings by pumping and dumping her so when she got ready to leave, i told her that i was sorry but i didn't think we were compatible. that was a close call but i managed to safeguard my virginity for a little bit longer
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Anon09/19/26, 12:28No.77525009
Beer please.What's the minimum effective combat training the average Joe can go through to hold his own in a bad situation? Recently had an encounter with two doctors/engineers of a darker complexion and realized I'd be utterly fucked if any of them engaged, doesn't help that I'm 5'7 155lbs. All this supposing that weapons are out of the picture of course.
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Anon09/19/26, 15:29No.77525176
ate like shit last week only lifted twice today was a shit lift day had to drop weights well below my average cutting weightfuck sake man
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Anon09/19/26, 15:33No.77525185
On Tinder, do i just ask girls i match with to fuck? I don't want to date.
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Anon09/19/26, 15:35No.77525189
Man it really does pour when it rains. I was talking about my car issues the other night and how I hate my job/have no real desire for anything and now my knee is busted up again. Idk what I did to it, if I bend the leg at 90 degrees I can’t bare any weight on it and limp for a minute or two. Nasty soreness on the inner side close to the patella. I’m fairly certain it’s meniscus in nature as I have had tears in the past in each knee but this feels different. None of the scratchy pinching feeling just a sudden dull ache like when my old tear went 8 months without being treated. I have to be on my feet a lot at my shitty job too. It just randomly started after getting out of my car and walking up my stairs last night. Yeah I mean it when I say this again but I feel like the universe just starts kicking me harder and harder and occasionally takes breaks to rest itself just long enough for me to regain some hope.
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Anon09/19/26, 16:43No.77525294
tfw 35 i feel like ~23 havent had a gf for over 6 ears now ina time where everyones getting married lifts are stalingone coke rum please, diet coke
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Anon09/19/26, 17:46No.77525384
These threads always remind me that maybe not having a gf isn't so bad
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Anon09/19/26, 18:13No.77525410
dude what is the point of these threads to commiserate and wallow in pity together? ffs like 90% of you just need to grow a spine and most of these posts wouldn't exist
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Anon09/19/26, 18:27No.77525429
Sometimes I consider getting a tattoo sleeve just because women love them
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Anon09/19/26, 19:21No.77525481
>balding fast >ed and no libido >depressed it's bad
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Anon09/19/26, 19:28No.77525485
Been sober for 3 years now, just finished my degree while working full time and fuck it i just got 8 cans of larger and i'm going to relax and drink myself stupid for the first time in years. I earned this.
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Anon09/19/26, 23:15No.77525722
>Saturday night >Sat alone >Drinking the pain away >Mindlessly listen to music and shitpost on 4chan >This has been my life for 5 years now >No chance it'll change anytime soon Huh
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Anon09/20/26, 05:25No.77526132
I fucking miss the old internet so much
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Anon09/20/26, 11:22No.77526539
going gym 3 times a week since 1 month and whenver i eat something my stomach just sort of feels like it expands and i have to shit and it goes down a little but i keep tihnking im getting fat even though im going gym, in calorie deficit etc i dont get what going on