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Anonymous03/12/26, 22:40No.34334585
This is going to sound ridiculous, but. I read Meditations a while back, and while it gave me an extreme level of calm and serenity throughought a very tumultuous time in my life, I feel I took the wrong things from it and just became an unresponsive passive doormat for people to walk all over. It's like I just yield but I don't ever stop yielding. How do I re -read it aaaand gain some backbone/assertiveness? And not implement a twisted version of stoicism/assertiveness manifesting as lanquidness/cowardice? Anyone have any books/advice for this?
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Anon03/12/26, 22:51No.34334600
Here's some knowledge that will turn you off of Marcus Aurelius and Stoicism forever:Marcus Aurelius stayed holed up in his chamber while a gladiator ran through his wife and he did nothing about it. His wife was fucked very often by a stronger man while he spent his time musing about philosophy all on his lonesome while the gladiator used his wife as a scabbard for his cock. That's where stoicism gets you. Cuckoldry."Ahh for you see man must separate that which he can control from that which he cannot control, lest he find no peace. That is why I do not forbade my wife from taking another man's penis, for I cannot control neither her or the man. Lest I suffer."
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Anon03/12/26, 22:53No.34334605
Reading one book won't change your entire personality. Moreover the important thing is actually applying what you learned so making a book your entire personality is counterproductive if anything. You won't improve unless you make a conscious and mindful effort to.
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Anon03/13/26, 22:30No.34337875
just reread, dum dum. the courage to be disliked is also good
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Anon03/15/26, 04:37No.34341880
hegel saw stoicism as historically being necessitated by conditions of servitude and bondage and the desire to escape those conditions by retreating into the pure and simple essentiality of thought, which is of course the death of any full and actualized consciousness since an actualized consciousness takes a pragmatic interest in itself, the world, its desires, etc... the stoic seeks out freedom inwardly because he can't get it otherwise, the pragmatist and/or student of phenomenology seeks out freedom without abstracting it away from reality