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Anonymous08/17/25, 05:40No.240427

Is it time to accept that Caucasus wrestlers have debunked striking forever?

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Anon08/17/25, 05:48No.240428

All they've done is demonstrate how dumb the octagon is They literally just push people into the wall, it's a good strategy but it only works because of the weird environment the cage creates If it was in a normal ring or an open mat the whole thing falls apart like a house of cardsBy the way this was always the point of the cage, remember UFC was originally designed to be a gracie jiujitsu commercial, they designed it to aid their fighting style which at that time was the same. Bum rush the legs and pin against the wall. Watch grecie challenge videos and you'll see that's what they doThen the meta shifted and now that gay boring lay and pray shit is back again What's old is new again, history doesn't repeat but it rhymesThis will be the death of the UFC though The brand is already in decline and now you have champions that just rear body lock and run the clock, nobody is gonna watch this shit

Anon08/17/25, 19:12No.240482

They've also made the sport boring as fuck. The only entertaining Dagestani is Makhachev and he isn't beating Jack.

Anon08/17/25, 22:41No.240523

Christ will return and they will pay their debts in the end

Anon08/19/25, 15:44No.240625

>debunked striking

Anon08/20/25, 13:25No.240682

Ground game is for when you can afford to be on the ground, and that's not usually the case in the real world where friends and rando's will stomp your head in while you're trying to roll around on the ground. You need to have skill in both stand up and ground fighting.

Anon08/22/25, 23:01No.240824

There's only 3 of them that are champs right now and they've all lost before except Khamzat, who's nearly lost.

Anon08/23/25, 03:22No.240847

kumshot was insufferable Saturday. He should not be champion because that wasn’t fucking fighting, ddp smiling like a retard the whole merry way too. and that little dicksuckle arman, god I would love to just kick him square in the balls from behind the arrogant fuck. Merab and ilia are way more interesting than the dagi fucks. even if merab still has similarities to them, and i get how some people can find him boring, his judo is pure pottery. I like sandhagen but he’s got no chance Khabib is gay for not fighting Tony but it was interesting seeing a lighter guy do a sort of Cain v style no doubt when I first watched him…. Then it’s like ok dude… the same thing each fight. Islam is a little better but him not fighting ilia goes to show how bullshit ufc is. Fuck umar that quick little faggot I’m glad merab raped his soul into humiliation, if muslims are capable Ank seems like a chill guy, I hope Alex gives him a seizure with the first punch of the first round tho.SPIDER IS THE GOAT I HOPE TOM VORES GANE IN THEIR OCTOBER FIGHT

Anon08/24/25, 12:43No.240927

They didn't debunk anything, they are simply well-rounded in a promotion where most of the top fighters are pure kickboxers whose grappling skill extends to scrambles to standing, two chokes and desperation armbar attempts

Anon09/15/25, 02:21No.242677

All they have demonstrated is that people who practice more at a high level will usually win more

Anon09/15/25, 14:48No.242706

MMA rules but on a basketball court and no gloves or wraps. See what happens.Maybe a lot more muay thai kicks and elbows and knees?

Anon09/16/25, 00:07No.242741

>This is real fighting! We are so fucking tough noone can beat our dudes barehanded If it's real then have no rules Finger grabs, eye gouges, soccer kicks, aim for spine and throat, fucking SPITTING, throwing you out the cage. All that >We need rules because we need to protect or fighters (it'll cost us medical aid money and star promotions. They only have 2 eyes lmao) Then spitting, grabbing the cage, knees with 3 points down, Speedos, uniforms, stomps, etc. Should be fine. All bare knuckle. We palm strike now. >Noone wants to see that, that looks savage or taints the looks and brand. Le noble warrior (money bro. We sell gloves and shit) So it's a sport >Of course. We aren't street fighters. >That's why we do rounds, TKO, time limits. It keeps it fast and ends in time. Very entertaining and good for the kids. >But we want to keep it as close to the real thing we can. While keeping the money I mean the fighters wellbeing in mind >But keep it fair for grapplers. We are MIXED martial arts. Then why count control time? Why give points for ground and standing control time if we all know it's got no actual benefits in a real fight (if you tire me and I kill you I win. If my friends come over I win. If you CAN'T submit me or knock me out you DON'T win.) and no benefit in a timed match that turns boring when our fighters just hug for 15 minutes? We can count take downs and slams even if they do little in a match because IRL you break your shit on concrete (Also because it's fun, just like striking). Then we countdown a minute of ground/stand control and then we stand/separate fighters. It's fast, it's active. Maybe the one that takes you down has to stand up quick or it costs him a point after 1:30 minutes. This also simulates my friend kicking him in the head AND makes ground game fun and explosive switching speeds and dominance in a second. >This isn't the olympics faggot. This is real life!! (BJJ money. We invested in bjj. Also Slav and Arab money.)

Anon10/05/25, 18:03No.244189

Who are they fighting? We are busy trying to make a living.

Anon10/07/25, 03:22No.244334

>Wrestler's peak performance vs Striker's most mediocre performance

Anon10/08/25, 16:20No.244483

All of them literally train striking. Zabit Mahomedshapirov and Muslim Sakilov specialize in it. The 5 Directions school consistently produces great striking athletes.

Anon12/11/25, 12:35No.250277

Why western fighters don't train wrestling as much as them? They always go for bjj which has no takedowns and no pins. Craig Jones is marketing himself like antidagestani but had zero success.

Anon01/11/26, 23:18No.253483

It's a shame Khabib v GSP never happened. If he'd been able to match Khabib in wrestling and beat him, it would have underlined the need to improve stand-up game and have that option for when you face another elite grappler. But there aren't really any well-rounded guys who can show them that now.

Anon01/11/26, 23:21No.253484

Remember when Rousey lost and everyone was like "she's the sea song of grappling in MMA, the last pure grappler champion" KEK

Anon02/07/26, 18:23No.255167

Why do they all do that beard

Anon02/17/26, 00:24No.255867

many of those in the pic were better strikers than wrestlrers, some were beaten badly by strikers... there is nothing about wrestlers that made them superior in any way to the regular lanklet ufc championsall types of fighters and fighting styles proved their point, it is a matter of wich fighter is better at that point, nothing more, nothing else.UFC have proven once and for all that all fighting styles and types of bodies can fight and win

Anon04/26/26, 20:25No.260478

>when a striker does something so grapplephobic you hit them with the dagestan stare

Anon05/10/26, 17:11No.261654

The fact is you should be allowed to grab the cage, there's no good reason why you can't If you're allowed to push someone against it theres no justification to not being able to hang on to it to pull yourself up

Anon05/12/26, 18:00No.261761

>be known for wrestlefucking your opponents >wrestlefuck your way to the title >get paired up with someone known for standing and jabbing to a decision >give up wrestlefucking two rounds in to stand and jab with him >lose by decision

Anon05/31/26, 13:30No.262770

Ruleset dictates technique. Start having UFC fights take place in concrete-floored hangars and watch grapplers flounder.

Anon06/01/26, 10:53No.262875

BJJ has been a disaster for human race. MMA fights should take place on concrete. That's all I know or care to know.

Anon08/30/26, 12:53No.269244

No they have not. Umar Nurmagomedov just got knocked out cold by Song Yadong. And Tagir Ulanbekov got kicked in the head then subbed by Horiguchi.

Anon08/31/26, 01:32No.269308

Nah, Makhachev barely slipped by his last fight and Umar just go put to sleep. Chimaev lost to Strickland. Gaethje is Lightweight champ. Not looking too good for grapplers right now.

Anon09/01/26, 06:10No.269439

I honestly think the whole dagestani fighter thing was a psyop. I don't know why but like, idk feels off.