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Anonymous10/18/25, 18:29No.41305716A new argument against pro life and human supremacy
### Relevant Study on Early Pregnancy Loss and Implantation Failure
One of the most comprehensive and recent studies addressing the high rates of early pregnancy loss, including failures of fertilized eggs to implant in the uterine wall (preimplantation loss), is titled **"Preimplantation loss of fertilized human ova: estimating the unobservable"** by David A. Savitz, published in *Human Reproduction Update* in 2021. This paper synthesizes data from epidemiological, demographic, laboratory, and IVF studies to estimate losses that are difficult to observe directly, as many occur before a pregnancy is detectable.
#### Key Findings
- **Preimplantation Loss (Failure to Attach)**: Approximately 40-50% of fertilized human ova never successfully implant in the uterine wall. This is the highest-risk stage of early development, where the fertilized egg (zygote) fails to embed in the endometrium due to factors like genetic abnormalities, suboptimal uterine receptivity, or timing issues.
- **Post-Implantation Losses**: Once implantation occurs (detectable via human chorionic gonadotropin, or hCG, hormone around 6-12 days post-fertilization), about **one-third (approximately 33%)** of these early pregnancies are spontaneously lost. This includes:
- ~25% subclinical losses (before symptoms like a missed period, often mistaken for a late period).
- The remaining ~8-11% as recognized miscarriages after clinical detection.
- **Overall Loss Rate**: Combining pre- and post-implantation stages, 60-67% of fertilized eggs do not result in a live birth, meaning only 33-40% progress to term. These estimates focus on couples in their prime reproductive years (ages 20-30) and account for variables like fertilization rates (64-90% in the presence of sperm) and sterility factors.
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Anon10/18/25, 18:30No.41305722
- The study emphasizes that these losses are a natural part of human reproduction, with prior estimates varying widely (10-70%) due to detection challenges, but converging on substantial early attrition.You can access the full open-access paper here: [PMC8287936](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8287936/).#### Broader Context from Related Research
Supporting studies echo these figures. For instance, a 2016 review in *Reproductive BioMedicine Online* analyzed hCG data and anatomical studies, estimating total prenatal losses at 40-60% from fertilization to birth, with preimplantation failures at 10-40%. Similarly, a 2024 literature review in the *Middle East Fertility Society Journal* notes that only about 30% of all conceived pregnancies (natural or assisted) result in live births, implying ~70% overall loss, much of it tied to implantation issues like chromosomal errors or endometrial factors.These rates highlight that early embryo loss is extremely common—far exceeding the 10-20% miscarriage rate for clinically recognized pregnancies—and often goes unnoticed.#### Implications for Reproductive Ethics (e.g., Pro-Life Perspectives)
The high natural rate of preimplantation loss (where a fertilized egg fails to attach) is frequently discussed in bioethics debates. Some argue it underscores the biological reality that not all fertilized eggs develop into viable pregnancies, challenging strict pro-life views that equate fertilization with full personhood (e.g., by questioning why nature "terminates" so many potential lives without ethical intervention). Others counter that this doesn't diminish the value of those that do implant, emphasizing intent and viability instead. These are philosophical interpretations of the science; the data itself remains neutral, focusing on observable reproductive biology rather than moral judgments. If you'd like more papers on the ethical angles or specific critiques, let me know!
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Anon10/18/25, 18:32No.41305727
Tincan slop.
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Anon10/18/25, 18:33No.41305734
>argument against pro life
Anon, pro-life is against abortion and abortion is child-murder. There can be no argument for child-murder, do you understand this?
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Anon10/18/25, 18:34No.41305740
tldr what's your pointAssuming you believe rights should be granted only to humans and that life begins at conception a strong argument can be made that sex and procreation is immoral because most children die before birth.
It makes more sense to grant rights on the basis of sentience or being conscious, unborn humans don't become conscious until at least a couple weeks into pregnancy and by then most survive until birth.People will criticize veganism for crop deaths but ignore the unborn deaths during the first few weeks of pregnancy, it's about wherever there's rights violations or not or utilitarianism
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Anon10/18/25, 18:44No.41305794
Nobody is fucking your babylonian abortion whores. Kys
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Anon10/18/25, 18:47No.41305812
100% of all people die, i'm still against murder
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Anon10/18/25, 18:51No.41305841
God plays hands with wildcards. What do you want?The odds look weird, because we were built with asymmetry. There's a fucking reason, that all complex action appears like a dice roll.Some of us do more than look at the Plinko board, and think the outputs don't mean anything significant about the inputs.
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Anon10/18/25, 18:53No.41305852
Those replies to the OP, ironically, holy coping lmao
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Anon10/18/25, 20:17No.41306318
NOTHING WRONG WITH
MERELY LOVING LIFE
AND SEEKING TO
PROTECT IT
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Anon10/19/25, 07:52No.41309592
didnt read
there can be only murder of the enemy.
extra terrestial aka non native aka non gaian aka non mother earth entities (or entities that do not live in accordance with golden rules of the cosmos)
this should be standard and common procedure
if you do not agree, you are from the enemy, from the enemy parasitic consciousness and should be dealt with accordingly too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfeLA1jOXl8