shogun 2 hate thread

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Anonymous08/03/26, 17:20No.2461823Shogun 2 hate thread
>"anon play Sh2, it's the last good historical TW game" >ok, play it >play in low graphics to see if I actually like it and it's a fun game or it's just an illusion >it's an illusion >it's boring, the diplomacy sucks (Ikko-Ikki now are friends with everyone EVEN THE SHOGUNATE, despite being schizo-zealots) >religion doesn't matter at all (it's just % idolatry; no gods, no roleplay, no gods' favors, etc.) >morale sucks (samurai's honor where?) >combat is boring and tedious because micromanagement, plus units don't obey or are bugged in sieges >sieges are the worst, no matter how much you develop the city (another tedious boring crap), all cities are the same (walls that kill your morale and just some random building in the middle) It feels TW players have to the most boring gamers ever, since anything "mehh..." seems awesome. >"but but the mods... mur freedom than nuTW" The game's core still the same ans it's boring af.
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Anon08/03/26, 17:27No.2461827
>Bishamonten is one of the Shinto-Buddhist Gods of War >mentionated in the trailer >*would him affect the campaign? how would you play it? what kind of relationship he would have with Jesus and his gunpowder?* >nothing matters, it's a nothingburger 4X / grand strategy is the genre that looks infinitely cooler and fun to play in trailers than in actual gameplay.
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Anon08/03/26, 17:30No.2461830
Also, you have to laugh at the irony of seeing the tech trees so "Zen minimalistic" yet the game can give you beautiful minimalist graphics for the low / medium graphics.
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Anon08/03/26, 17:33No.2461834
AI sucks, you can charge against an unit and the unit will not react. And if you want to move an unit out of the combat, it will not obey.
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Anon08/03/26, 17:40No.2461839
>christian faction lost city to Buddhist rebels I promote >rebels take city >0 improvement, still burning turns later >still are rebels, not their own faction (Bungo; takes its name from th city they conquered) >you can't do diplomacy with them, despite you "create" them >the city still 100% christian (and burning) despite being owned by Buddhists several turns, yet they are happy
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Anon08/03/26, 17:45No.2461844
And the "Realm Divided" could be fun if it was an actual battle royale, not 1 vs all, despite you don't even own half of Japan, and you still have to fix the cities because you must waste time to not feel how boring the game really is.
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Anon08/03/26, 17:46No.2461846
Cursed thread
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Anon08/03/26, 17:54No.2461852
Are you a Mexican by any chance? I d like to use a derogatory slur aimed at your stupidity?
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Anon08/03/26, 18:46No.2461882
Another fun thing is, Sh2 in low graphics it's like Sh1, yet people consider Sh2 the "perfect game" just because it looks good.
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Anon08/03/26, 18:51No.2461889
Shogun 2 >the perfect TW game because all city battle maps are the same The quality standards this days are sooo low. Imagine if urban combat were great and fun to play, like in CoH, but adapted to the technology of the era the game is based on.
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Anon08/04/26, 00:10No.2462068
>it's boring, the diplomacy sucks (Ikko-Ikki now are friends with everyone EVEN THE SHOGUNATE, despite being schizo-zealots) they usually aren't, but you have 14 provinces and a direct threat to the survival of the Shogunate, because of your power >religion doesn't matter at all (it's just % idolatry; no gods, no roleplay, no gods' favors, etc.) You want an arcadey mechanic, where you can summon a buddhist army out of nowhere after filling up a "belief" bar or something? There are actual events, which are religious in nature. Also monks can convert other character, incite rebellions, convert and help with your research. >morale sucks (samurai's honor where?) It actually simulates real warfare, which is based on morale and not completely wiping out an enemy unit in a straight-up fight. >combat is boring and tedious because micromanagement, plus units don't obey or are bugged in sieges You don't need to micromanage units desu, at least not much. There are only one or two siege maps, which are bugged, when it comes to large unit sizes and units not obeying and it's usually fixed by giving them an order with a different formation, where you aren't trying to get them perfectly into a tight space.
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Anon08/04/26, 00:20No.2462071
The problem with Realm Divide is that it is trying to simulate two entirely separate events. First is the fall of the Ashikaga Shogunate, when Oda Nobunaga bumrushed the capital like he was speedrunning real life. This aggro'd many other daimiyo against Nobunaga. But the 'real' realm divide happened much later, under Tokugawa, when a power struggle led to the Battle of Sekigahara and Tokugawa's ultimate victory. By conflating the first with the second, you end up with a situation where you've grown to large (like Nobunaga) so everyone is against you (like Tokugawa).
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Anon08/04/26, 02:29No.2462117
Shogun 2 has 2 selling points: 1. The battles which are the best in the franchise. Fall of the Samurai has the best gunpowder battles in the entire franchise too. 2. Cav can dismount and fight on foot. This is probably the lost technology that I wish for the most to come back because horses don't do shit against castle walls.
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Anon08/04/26, 09:09No.2462183
Protip: those "good" TW games are just the ones that had decent launches that weren't bugged to fuck. So people remember them as being "good". Hence why Attila is remembered as being a "good" TW game even though it's a reskin of Rome 2 which is a "bad" TW game because it had a horrendous launch. Though not as bad a launch as Empire, another "bad" TW game.
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Anon08/04/26, 16:21No.2462297
i like shogun 2 it was the last total war i liked
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Anon08/04/26, 17:28No.2462324
Real reason it’s good is because a small arr rook da same roster allows the AI to actually play the game.
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Anon08/05/26, 01:40No.2462551
SHAMEFURU DISPRAY ANON IS LUNNING FROM THE BATTLEFIELD
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Anon08/08/26, 22:35No.2464630
You need to install mods to bring new units and sometimes it doesn't even change the game, because it's too simple, even the map sucks. Once you install mods like "Total FotS Series" which is a really ambitious mod the game still sucks, the ai still sucks and nothing really change because it's still too arcade but with more uniforms. The last hope, for me, is grand tactician napoleonic wars
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Anon08/09/26, 08:04No.2464760
Wasn't Shimazu katana samurai spam the optimal composition of the army in Shogun 2?
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Anon08/10/26, 20:39No.2465562
The art design is the best. UI unfortunately not scaleable, can't play in 4k.. The AI is as shit as any other TW, requires Darth Mod. Doomstacks spawning out of nothing make the game feel cheesy and strategy worthless. I wish they would finally make use of bleeding edge "AI" to replace cheating. The warscape engine sucks. Archers no longer gain range bonus from elevations. WTF were they thinking? Still enjoy the game with the help of some custom modding.
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Anon08/11/26, 10:06No.2465836
Whats a better game for samurai warfare besides shogun 2?
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Anon08/11/26, 11:17No.2465850
wtf is this thread lmao
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Anon08/15/26, 05:40No.2468227
I stopped playing after they assfucked the shaders and the game started looking like shit on all settings
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Anon08/15/26, 06:47No.2468231
>it's boring Subjective >EVEN THE SHOGUNATE You have 16 cities retard, you 1 step away from RD and war vs all. >religion doesn't matter at all Bcs you are retard and didn't play Otomo or even face Otomo, and didn't even build high tier buildings you don't know matter of religion. >morale sucks Retard. >combat is boring and tedious because micromanagement Play autobattlers then idiot. Combat is very typical for tw series. >sieges are the worst since i can't handle them Retard.Go away from tw, really. It's not your piece of cake.
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Anon08/15/26, 06:53No.2468233
This is bait but I want to imagine it's written by a bratty, rapeable fujo who's too naive to realise delicate little flowers like her shouldn't enter spaces for jaded, middle aged evil fat bastards like /vst/
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Anon08/15/26, 14:58No.2468414
>vanilla >no mods >my units keep losing moral for whatever nonsense but the last enemy soldier keeps fighting no matter what
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Anon08/15/26, 15:07No.2468422
>being surrounded >NOOOO we can't fight at the same time and finish the damn battle >combat must be 1v1 all the time
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Anon08/15/26, 15:13No.2468425
>not all this single soldier keep fighting >but he is able to kill soldiers of my elite cavalry despite him being a random swordman
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Anon08/15/26, 15:15No.2468426
And as in R2, the persecutions suck, and your units still don't obey the direction you have give them.
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Anon09/03/26, 16:41No.2481253
>it's the last good historical TW game That would be Attila and it's not even close.
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Anon09/06/26, 17:39No.2483184
ADHD zoomoid made this thread. Zero patience, zero imagination, zero introspection. Everything must be handed to him on a plate for him to enjoy.
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Anon09/06/26, 17:55No.2483193
>latinx can't into dipromacy Many such cases