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Anon06/01/26, 05:52No.2418803

Why would you think SC1 is promoting diversity? The Zerg dindu nuffin in the sequal as a retcon. In full 90's glory the Zerg Overmid is a genuinely evil bastard.

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Anon06/01/26, 06:24No.2418809

>why are people like this?Starcraft1 There is a clear villain in the overall story and Tassadar dies at the end to finish the job.Stracraft2 Kerrigan is a past female villain from SC1, gets redeemed completely and everything bad forgotten and BECOMES A LITERAL COSMIC GOD BY THE END.Other problems: - One character willingly sacrifices his life for something he believed in, the other character becomes a god as compensation for all the bad things that were done to her.- SC2 has no clear villain faction like the Zerg was in SC1. And people are tired of the trope where factions are supposed to fight each other but every time there is a sudden greater threat so they need to stop fighting and band together. Also this removes the agency and relevance from all the factions as they are : 1) too weak on their own and thus their significance is diminished 2) stupid for not seeing the obvious need to band together and they need main characters to tell them 3) unable to achieve relative peace among themselves after their worked together successfully and defeated the greater threat and just revert to the previous status quo of just fighting with each other 4) since the plot reverts to the previous status quo, factions never learning the obvious lessons also makes the all story events meaningless since the world is technically back at the starting line again (until the next episode)

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Anon06/01/26, 12:28No.2418934

I've been replaying the SC2 campaigns and they are pretty annoying with their writing. There's always an evil version of a faction to fight. You killed all those Protoss, but it's ok, don't feel bad because they were evil Protoss enslaving other Protoss. They started this shit in WC3, but at least the Undead were bastards throughout. I would have preferred if the orcs or night elves were as well instead of the 3 all working together. But in SC2 it's just friendship all over.The main problem is combined narrative campaigns. This will always be the inferior way to do RTS campaigns because you either have a main character that jumps between factions or all the factions just team up by the end. The correct way is to have a separate story for each faction where your faction is the winner at the end and the other ones lose. If you want a sequel, you just pick a faction's ending and make that canon.

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Anon06/01/26, 20:53No.2419206

The Terran Conferacy was 10,000 times more interesting than the Dominion and you can't change my mind.

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Anon06/02/26, 00:00No.2419297

>we must embrace diversity i don't think that marxist politics were ever at all a subject in starcraft. it's just a stupid sci-fi game

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Anon06/02/26, 08:48No.2419442

Sc1 was fucked from the start by constantly emphasizing Kerrigan in the Zerg campaign instead of having the player play as genuinely evil and alien conquerors, instead we are supposed to give a fuck about this human turned monster. Yawn.There's no confidence in the player. Destroying everything the good guys have built would be genuinely fun. Why can't we be a lieutenant for the overmind? Why does he need to die? The rot began here

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Anon06/02/26, 09:38No.2419457

>cooperates with the Zerg and the terrans to defeat a common enemy This isn't the problem. It's that the only way to defeat Amon is for all the Daelaam to get neural circumcision (desperate but reasonable), and then they choose to completely abandon the Khala instead of preserving it for future generations of Daelaam (despite it's pseudo-hivemind that also acts as a cultural archive for them). Then later they also all abolish their entire caste system at the end because a neckbeard(toenail?) IT support guy had to fight. If LotV came out five years later it would've also ended with Artanis abolishing the title of Heirarch and replacing it with a Protoss Council. This is gay because I like my aliens to be alien, I like when there are major societal rifts between different groups because of differences in opinion on weird shit, like being a part of a subconscious hivemind, learning the reason why they have these opinions, etc. Even when it's done in a cartoonish way with the Tal'darim it's still at least entertaining. Yellow Protoss turning into vaguely western and bland space elves is thereby pretty gay. However, that's definitely not my biggest issue with SC2 and I doubt we're ever getting a SC3 to explore these ideas further so it really doesn't matter. One last thing I will give this shit though is that it's not out of character, and not just for the reasons you give. For what it's worth SC1 did end with almost all of the Judicators being killed along with the rest of the Daelaam leadership after the loss of Aiur. Massive social upheavals in cataclysmic events like that aren't weird and were observed throughout SC1. I just think ditching your society's massive psychic library where you can check out grandpa's memories at any time even after Space Satan was defeated by the embodiment of Metzen's troubled marriage in the name of progress is gay.

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Anon06/02/26, 11:57No.2419541

I don't think there ever was an argument more made up and artificial than this just make a normal starcraft 1 thread, the other one hit bump limit long ago anyway

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Anon06/02/26, 14:10No.2419644

>>>/pol/b8 [//boards.4chan.org/pol/catalog#s=b8]

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Anon06/02/26, 16:15No.2419744

>Artanis breaks away from tradition and cooperates with the Zerg and the terrans to defeat a common enemy >NOOOOO FUCKING SJWs RUINED MY GAME FUCK DIVERSITY I've never heard anybody make this criticism of SC2, not even the most retarded chudsSC2's story is bad because it's literally "an ancient evil has returned" and "the chosen one must stop it"

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Anon06/03/26, 04:42No.2420365

Peak Starcraft was the video for the second Terran mission "Sarge, I think you just ran over some poor feller's dog" "That's a zergling, a smaller type of zerg" I never played SC2 so I never had to worry about what dumb shit they did with the series. Feels good man.

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Anon06/06/26, 00:35No.2422813

Why did this sort of “enemy factions unite against the true evil” thing work in WC3 but not SC2? I don’t disagree with that, but let me hear your takes.

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Anon06/07/26, 03:29No.2423534

Starcraft 2 retconned the Xel'Naga. They went feom precursers that die to the Zerg, which makes the Zerg a threat, to space squids that died cus one of their own genocided them. Also making people pay for 3 bad missions to end the franchise sits bad for everyone.

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Anon06/10/26, 20:24No.2426235

at least they had an refugee redpill

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Anon06/15/26, 18:04No.2429379

Any storyline so lazy as to involve gods and fate is a bad one.

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Anon06/16/26, 21:22No.2430360

Tassadar was bringing his people together. The overmind is evil and was suppose to be evil.I hated when they tried giving zerg some redemption arc in Starcraft 2. Its okay to have an Evil fucked up race. Kerrigan should of died after killing like all of Raynors friends.

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Anon06/17/26, 01:14No.2430541

Because Starcraft 2 makes Starcraft 1s ending trivial. The whole point of the split between the High and Dark Templar is because the Dark Templar were afraid that the High Templar would lose their personality and would be susceptible to being influenced by stronger minds which the original game pointed out that both ways of life were viable and that they are draw backs to both but neither are inherently bad. The fact that the fears of the Dark Templar became reality trivializes the ending for SC1 by showing that 1 culture is inherently faulty.Doesn't matter if both games have the same message. How that message is told matters. One is just a shittier version of the other.

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Anon06/24/26, 00:36No.2435970

While we are here can we take a moment to appreciate how retarded the Zerus retcon is? In BW the zerg are a parasite-esque organism that can devour genetic code to create a race of super-efficient killing machines, designed into their current form by the Xel-naga - whom they ultimately destroyed since they didn't know they had a hivemind. Zerus was a volcanic planet where the zerg organism originated.Meanwhile in SC2: >primal zerg are all permanently evolving >but they are also just dumb animals who didn't even develop opposable thumbs and they don't even use tools or anything >they all speak english for some reason >also they can assimilate genetic code still but it happens individually to each creature somehow... but they still hatch from eggs... though none of them lay eggs or reproduce... except there's giant bug creatures that spawn them... but they can spawn anything from lings to ultras... but they're all supposed to be unique individually developed creatures >also they have an ancient Spawning Pool ™ - an organ bio-engineered by the Zerg to hatch larvae in? Even though the primal zerg don't have larvae. Plus not one primal zerg used the ancient Spawning Pool ™ in a millenia to become giga-powerful despite that being their main schtick >when you arrive on the planet it is full of utterly helpless prey animals like deer, crabs and giant porcupines - wouldn't these be all hunted and eaten in a day? >if you kill them they don't just die but give Kerrigan Essence ™ What the fuck were they thinking Bonus space magic: >the Xel-naga weren't defeated because of their hubris but because one of them was le evil and created the overmind - also they are magic space gods now instead of an alien race >but also the zerg are necessary for the defeat of The Dark One ™ >also that happened millenia ago and somehow the Zerg only actually clashed with the protoss recently even though their sole purpose was to wipe them out >also there's

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Anon07/02/26, 06:16No.2441533

That was not the criticism people had of LotV when it came out, the criticism people had was it felt too much like a marvel movie. You know, that and obviously the epilouge, but let's pretend that never happened.

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Anon07/03/26, 02:00No.2442104

do protoss consider two male templar merging into an archon gay?

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Anon07/03/26, 03:56No.2442159

Thinking of picking up SCBW to play vs players. Is it worth learning this game or should I put my effort on SC2? I do like that this game gets no class balance patches anymore but am afraid of spending a lot of time grinding a dead game

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Anon07/14/26, 06:05No.2450051

You know I never hear anyone say anything about the Nova mini-campaign, how is it?

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Anon07/18/26, 15:08No.2452370

Bros... How do you deal with the broodwar mission where Mengsk keeps sending yamato gun battlecruisers? Ain't got the micromanagement skills for this shit!

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Anon07/18/26, 21:37No.2452548

Why is the netcode in this game so fucking bad Do I have to move to korea to get playable latency

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Anon07/22/26, 04:07No.2454335

Just get into warhammer bro, this vheap copy is baby lore

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Anon07/27/26, 16:35No.2457829

STARCRAFT FANS R GAY....

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Anon08/05/26, 14:17No.2462745

I'm Johnny from Buenos Aires and I say kill 'em all.

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Anon08/10/26, 15:15No.2465360

Why did the Overmind create Kerrigan? In the original, it puts all this effort into transforming her but she really do anything after Tassadar makes a fool of her. I don't like what SC2 does with the reason behind the creation of the QoB but at least there is a clear purpose.

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Anon08/10/26, 16:42No.2465425

Might as well ask here. I just finished replaying Brood War's SP campaign. What's next if I'm stuck with a shitty laptop and can't go through SC2? I heard the unofficial campaigns are buggy but I want to keep playing, besides getting sodomized by the computer on melee matches. Thanks.

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Anon08/10/26, 20:52No.2465574

why does the guy in the missile turret not get any food

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Anon08/11/26, 15:57No.2465975

So you are saying that at the VERY BEST of starcraft 2, is just a sloppier copy of starcraft 1.That would seem to mean that actually Starcraft 2 is just a lesser game.

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Anon08/11/26, 21:55No.2466202

People bitching and moaning about Starcraft II's story are hilarious to me.Brood War was much worse, the entire campaign revolves around turning Kerrigan into the biggest Mary Sue in existance.

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Anon08/15/26, 08:52No.2468264

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs4Lpgj2Mcs

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Anon08/16/26, 02:51No.2468805

Non-american here. I thought Duke was some kind of hillbilly like all the other Korpulu terrans, and I was surprised when he called Jimmy and the Mar Sarans yokels. Was it supposed to be a pot-kettle moment or is Duke supposed to not be a hillbilly? Also, is his accent from another area of the US than the other terrans?

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Anon08/25/26, 07:04No.2474380

oh neat, there's an xp booster for coop the next 2 weeks. Maybe I'll finally grind out Kerrigan to P3 now

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Anon08/25/26, 12:55No.2474491

Legit question to loretards, were protoss a hiveminded by the khala from the beginning, or is this a retcon/sc2 addition?

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Anon09/01/26, 04:42No.2479696

I recently did the Nova missions and they were mostly fine but what the fuck was up with the moralizing of NO YOU CAN'T KILL DAVIS, YOU'LL BE JUST LIKE HER! Ok but...how? Nova was a professional assassin who never once betrayed the Dominion despite them brainwashing her and 99% of the time the people she killed deserved it, while Davis used psi emitters to wipe out entire planets of civilians.

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Anon09/07/26, 17:35No.2483779

The Zerg weren't meant to be "worked with" you stupid fucking nigger. Tassadar broke tradition to work with the terrans because the zerg were going to become something they couldn't stop by themselves, and died for this too, and then the zerg, from kerrigan side, betrayed the trust put in them and killed Fenix in front of you. The entirety of Brood War was to establish that the zerg couldn't be worked with and kerrigan was a fucking bitch who had to die. Then SC2 rolled in: >raynor suddenly feels guilty about kerrigan >kerrigan is somehow not in the complete wrong >kerrigan not only "forgiven" but redeemed by making her a fucking demi god with the usual "we dindu nuffin, we wuz peaceful and shiet" Meanwhile mengsk got none of this even though he had more qualities to be redeemed than kerrigan. Also the xel'nalga shit was cringe trash. I don't even care if this is bait. I'm not even a regular here. Fuck you.

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Anon09/10/26, 11:33No.2485762

I'm so tired of obnoxious zoomer niggers rewriting history. Brood War is excellent and has good writing. Always had. Never changed.

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Anon09/10/26, 21:13No.2486266

Ready to see blizzard rape starcraft lore again in 2 days? Also ARG is completed, if anyone is interested, here https://starcraft-arg.vercel.app/transmissions/03

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Anon09/11/26, 01:20No.2486375

Why did the UED leave the Disruptor on Braxis with just a garrison instead of moving it to their central power bases on Korhal and Char?

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