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Anonymous01/08/26, 21:25No.2318012EU5 EUV WHAT'S GOING ON?
I was thinking of (pirating) this game. Why are 52% of the recent steam reviews negative?
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Anon01/08/26, 22:11No.2318040
why not just read the reviews and find out yourself?
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Anon01/09/26, 00:13No.2318113
I'm not sure what it is about it, but it doesn't format well as a game for repeated play. I like it personally but only in short bursts. Running the game from speed 5 1337-end takes 20 hours non stop on my machine, but there only seems to be about 10 hours of actually engaging with the mechanics in any meaningful way, it's so weird
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Anon01/09/26, 00:33No.2318126
it's genuinely too complicated for anyone who didn't take econ 101, meaning that it's actually pretty easy but too hard for eu4 players. EU4 had basically zero genuine attempts at "simulation"
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Anon01/09/26, 01:16No.2318153
redditors got filtered. it's half baked and unbalanced but still the best gsg in years
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Anon01/09/26, 01:24No.2318160
A combination of it genuinely having some serious bugs and issues and mappainters crying that that spreading blurple is slightly harder than in EUIV
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Anon01/09/26, 01:32No.2318165
The only game that's more of a meme than Victoria 3.
>Warscore cost +10% because Empire vs Kingdom
Fuck you too, Johan.
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Anon01/09/26, 01:35No.2318166
What are you all hoping to see from future updates? the free market stuff is a massive meme right now, but the systems are there for some really cool expansions
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Anon01/09/26, 05:34No.2318278
Just pirate. No one cares. Even devs pirate.
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Anon01/09/26, 06:18No.2318288
The starting date is absolutely garbage
No austria, no ottoman, no russia, europe gets divided between naples, france, hungary and bohemia which is super boring
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Anon01/09/26, 08:27No.2318316
if u told grok 'play every ai nation like /gsg/ is playing it', border lels would be solved instantaneously. instead you get 'complacency'
when will gsg's be solved
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Anon01/09/26, 10:55No.2318356
Rapid fire updates nuking running games and post release introduction of ever new punishment mechanics to make sure no fun will ever be had.
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Anon01/09/26, 11:04No.2318359
The game is kind of unsatisfying to play. The reason is certain rather ill-thought mechanics.
Let's take an example. The costs based DIRECTLY on some arbitrary idea of economic base. Having diminishing returns for taking new land is a good idea. What the game does is give you a direct cost as an aggregate diminishing return. There's more situations where that's stupid than there's situations where that works.They've fixed that a little, but the issue remains. The AI is stupid at playing around it, the player doesn't feel accomplished playing around it. You have a double whammy right there. Add to it all some design failures (Japan) and you have a complete mess.
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Anon01/09/26, 11:11No.2318362
when pirating look for newer versions, recent patches balance the game way better than 1.00 found on fitgirl
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Anon01/09/26, 15:11No.2318430
You get a good bunch of fun if you have low expectations but then all the bugs and issues start to settle and you end up quitting unless you are a content creator and have no other choice. Couple of mods that make the game better too. Ultimately, is definitely a waste of money and the game will run like shit even if you have a good pc
t. Bought on release
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Anon01/09/26, 18:02No.2318531
Do colonies do anything on their own? I've established a few and none have ever expanded or gone to war with anyone like they did in EU4. They seem to just sit there. They don't even help in my nearby wars. I literally don't see a single thing happening.
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Anon01/09/26, 18:16No.2318538
Johanness Swedenborg left in a game breaking bug across the christmas break.
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Anon01/10/26, 16:22No.2319046
>Selective with the games he pirates for freeHolifucking based gamer.
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Anon01/12/26, 13:59No.2320265
It's ok, but a number of important things haven't been fixed.
1) the combat system needs to start using fixed regiment sizes between standing army and conscripts
2) the trade system does not work the way it should, goods are not making their way around the world
3) the proximity system, while a step in the right direction, is limiting and makes all countries look the same, you're always playing for a big capital, that's also a market centers, surrounded by other cities, this is boring
4) not enough things to use money on, game needs megaprojects that give interesting permanent buffs, like EU4 eventually added, maybe a few more sliders to spend money on (hopefully not scaled with GDP, for fucks sake)
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Anon01/13/26, 00:52No.2320638
Turns all of us naysayers who told you 1337 was way too early were completely right.
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Anon01/14/26, 02:32No.2321411
What a disaster this was
Eu4 still mogs
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Anon01/15/26, 14:27No.2322039
Every country feels the same. Redditors are shitting their pants over mission trees but that's exactly what this game needs. Situations are alright but I dont see them replacing the good ol' mission trees.>Economy
you want to get rid of peasants asap. you keep building buildings and they give you money through taxes. RGOs should make every country's situation different, but it's rarely the case. Most RGOs are abundant so you can't really specialize in producing certain goods since they are most likely going to be produces in the markets near you. Only a few RGOs, like gold and silver, are good enough to build your economy around them but unless you are a blobnigger you won't have enough of those unless you've started as a country that has a good amount of them at the game start. Also the demand for goods is so low you can usually just max out 1 city early game and meet the demands without a problem.
Also for some retarded fucking reason you always pay some % of the input goods price and you will most likely have to completely subsidize a lot of your buildings to grow your eco
>Map
I have to say, the enormous amount of locations are detrimental to the actual experience. I'm the kind of player that likes to optimize every single location/province but it's impossible to do so in this game without burning out quickly. It also makes warfare more tedious
>Warfare
It just feels bad, personally. So outside of the huge number of locations I've mentioned the food mechanic makes it even more tedious. If you take a long time to siege a fort, it's very likely that your army is going to start starving at some point. As the game progresses you have some options, like using the auxillary units, but it's very annoying early game. Also spamming cav is the way to go, which is boring, but it will probably get fleshed out at some point.
Also, for some reason, they made manpower an abstract number just like in eu4.
Post is getting to long so I'll finish here
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Anon01/15/26, 15:25No.2322068
>florry back to playing eu4
it's over
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Anon01/16/26, 12:35No.2322527
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/year-1701-same-institutions-in-somalia-and-borneo-as-in-the-western-europe.1895411/the problem with the game is all the devs are far leftist and retarded.they honestly believe somalia would beat france because BBC which is why the studio needs to die.the simplest solution even from a leftist mindset would be to add cultrual intolerance and isolationist dogma.
eg european ideas have a 20%+ spread to other european hertiages/religion groups
any african or asian have a -100% acceptance of new institutions due to cultural dogma of conforming to traditions.
same with islam have some religion modifier that quran is all. meaning -50% acceptance of christian institutions and tech which would fit the real dogma they have
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Anon01/16/26, 16:44No.2322634
WTF I haven't played in a bit and we really haven't gotten a patch for a whole month now
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Anon01/16/26, 20:56No.2322756
I pirated it and I'm absolutely addicted, give it a go
Reviews are bad because we're desperately waiting on a big patch which should happen in February (which you can wait for, as well)
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Anon01/16/26, 23:03No.2322840
EU5 will be the last time Paradox ever considers listening to the tryhard crowd, you finally got your pops and lack of missions/railroading and the game is shit for it.
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Anon01/17/26, 23:47No.2323374
That's what I feared. A technically impressive simulator that's actually boring as fuck to play
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Anon01/18/26, 00:08No.2323379
>we need mission trees for flavor
Every mission tree is just a collection of rewards for blobbing you would have been doing anyway as well as for dumping your excess monarch points when you hit the cap into development. The only """"interesting"""" mission trees are retarded ones like Persia's Zoroastrian revival which are stupid on the level of GoY4's alt-history trees no one likes. People pretending they liked it because it somehow differentiated countries and added flavor and not because they like the affirmation from the computer that they're doing a good job and the slot machine sound effects they probably added because their gambling exec CEO at the time told them to are lying.
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Anon01/18/26, 00:59No.2323409
EU4 casualized the series so much that the civ 5 players who hopped on in 2013 got filtered hard by Johan deciding to take EU back to its roots.Mana was a mistake.
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Anon01/18/26, 19:31No.2323900
has /vst/ always been full of redditors and I just haven't noticed? the game desperately needs mission trees, jesus christ
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Anon01/19/26, 12:46No.2324349
>have a surplus of building materials
>export them to colonies
>make a huge amount because they have no buildings to produce anything and everything costs 3 times as much as its base price
oh
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Anon01/19/26, 13:18No.2324375
>everyone i don't agree with is leddit
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Anon01/19/26, 16:57No.2324501
Paradox is circling the drain and have been for a decade. They peaked in the early 2010s with VicII, CKII, and EUIV. The writing was on the wall with the release of the turgid, fantasy, Reddit meme-generator that was Monks and Mystics. Like many studios they found commercial success through consistent delivery of quality products, and as soon as they did, marketing people who couldn't give a flying fuck about game design got dollar (or rather euro) signs in their eyes, seized creative control, and are now in the process of milking the brand name of every last drop until even the most oblivious of johnny-come-lately normie consumers catches on and Paradox is forced to file chapter 11.
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Anon01/19/26, 17:13No.2324508
I'll be honest, I bounced off EU5. It might be a great game, but for me it's overcomplicated. My ranking of top 5 Paradox games looks like this:
1. CK 2
2. EU 3
3. Stellaris
4. EU 2 (For the Glory)
5. EU 4 before bloat
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Anon01/20/26, 09:47No.2324962
When's 1.1 coming out?
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Anon01/20/26, 14:41No.2325071
Outside of the sandbox/railroad debate, the game is just too bloated
>character system
completely unnecessary. You have to marry off every dynasty member because it's not automated. I personally dont like the 3d shit and especially it taking the space on the fucking HUD but it's especially bad considering a part of the team is working exclusively on different fucking sprites. Like who gives a fuck?
>economy
There are too many RGOs. Or maybe that's wrong, but the UI where you can see the production on RGOs/finished goods is bad. In vic2 you entered the specific tab and had everything displayed, in eu5 you have to scroll down to see every good. And if you want to compare the good's price with another market you have to enter that market, search for the good and all you see is the difference between the market price and the base price, you can't compare it unless you press import/export. It's extremely tedious when you want to check multiple goods and the game pretty much forces you to just believe in the profit that the game calculates for you which just dumbs down the entire system
Dont even get me started on trading, you HAVE to automatize it at least partially to min-max.
>locations
there are too many fucking locations. All the previous Paradox games were micro-oriented, eu5 has too many "provinces" (locations) to do that. So you just open the macro-builder and build shit where, again, the game shows you it will bring the most profit.
Also the warfare is much more tedious because of thatI've never played this game past 1500. I get burnt out too quickly. It's not too hard, it's too fucking tedious. I've played vic2, eu4, hoi4, imperator, ck2 and 3. I understand how the game works and I dont like it. And even around 1400 I usually lose the interest to play and Im definitely playing sub-optimally
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Anon01/20/26, 15:27No.2325095
I don’t know. I think it’s easily the best designed paradox game as far as what makes me interested. I love the early start date and the scale of the game, I love the autistic amount of RGOs and the simulation in everything, I like that you don’t have to constantly micromanage everything and can have some time to just let your decisions run and watch as things develop over time based on what you set in motion until you decide to strike and make a big move again. I find board game design, rigid mechanics etc boring and rote and think the dynamic simulation and watching a “living world” influenced by your decisions dynamically react is far more interesting and compelling. I’m waiting for the first expansion before I start my next game playing as Byzantium.
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Anon01/20/26, 19:41No.2325207
>Why are 52% of the recent steam reviews negative?
EU4 players, HoI4 and Vic3 redditors are scared of games that try to be simulation instead of modifier-stacking with pre-made "paths". They need mission trees and focus trees and journal entries to have a narrative because an emergent simulation scares them
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Anon01/20/26, 19:42No.2325209
>nn-no the game isn't bad its just... just... le hard ahahaha filtered!
shills aren't human
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Anon01/21/26, 15:00No.2325611
hang all mission trees niggerfags
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Anon01/21/26, 16:23No.2325647
why doesnt tech spread by proximity just like it did in vic3
its so weird ur researching docks and somalia can research it just as fast just by age timelines.why isnt say banking tech or social renaissance tech spreading based on shared borders or trade. it would make far more sense to get a ticking 1% per month of a tech if france researched it and you are holland.why dont you get military tech by fighting superior nations. if bohemia have canons and muskets you should get 5% or so per battle
as it was more a cat and mouse game between european states which why most of the other world didnt get it. japan and china industrialized fast when portugal came over and waged war on them and traded.it makes no sense every single 1 state in HRE have to research the same tech but rather tech flows out from cultrual groups,
if 1 german country has an innovative idea it spreads to neighbors. but due to language barrier poland doesnt get it as fast.
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Anon01/21/26, 19:09No.2325790
hang all sandboxtrannies
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Anon01/22/26, 19:24No.2326305
What is the consequence of resolving court & country through liberalism? Is there a permanent bonus like the crown power gain from legitimacy of absolutism?
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Anon01/22/26, 20:50No.2326350
mission tree cucks... the same people who love clicking hoi4 trees for free stuff. 70 days.... and you get this... for doing absolutely nothing.
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Anon01/22/26, 20:55No.2326353
>retarded tranny doesn't even know how mission trees work
LMAAOOOO
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Anon01/22/26, 22:20No.2326389
historical prussia mod was the apex of gsg
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Anon01/23/26, 00:34No.2326435
I'm just pissed off that it's not railroaded enough so that things will play out properly without player input and all of it is EXCLUSIVELY because they decided to add CK3 characters without any systems to back it up
The Habsburgs will never take over Spain (who doesn't even have its civil war triggered due to an unadressed bug lol)
The war of the roses doesn't happen because the dynasties don't survive for 100 years
The 80 years war won't happen because it requires advanced autistic european dynastic considerations for the Habsburgs to inherit Spain and the Netherlands
ETC
ETC
ETC
just fucking railroad/remove characters they add nothing i'm so mad
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Anon01/23/26, 06:05No.2326549
EU5 won't be good until M&T releases for it. Still by far Paradox's best game in ages though.
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Anon01/23/26, 20:50No.2326988
EU5 is overdesigned crap. The philosophy of "less is more" exists for a reason.
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Anon01/23/26, 21:04No.2326994
The constants updates ruined the game. People are starting to get disillusioned with EU5 because what is the point of starting a campaign if the next patch will fuck up your game no matter what? There is basically no meta right now because every patch introduce its own set of problems without really solving the problems from the former ones.
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Anon01/24/26, 06:59No.2327283
>the devs know most people play for ~200 years and then start over
lamest and most repeated non-argument ever
16 and 1700s should be when the game starts to really heat up, espec. towards 19th century
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Anon01/24/26, 07:05No.2327287
>average reditlord only had the attention span for 100 or 200 yrs
>therefore the game should suck crap in the most interesting part of histories there were
COOL argument
post another otter, legend
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Anon01/24/26, 07:14No.2327288
oh i read your post the whole way youre saying it should start later. yeah maybe
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Anon01/24/26, 11:29No.2327397
>NOOO I NEED A (YOU) STOP REPLYING INDERICTLY
ishygddt
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Anon01/25/26, 03:48No.2327879
Just a reminder that all the anti-Rome shilling comes from some post-wall /vt/ roastie and her simps. On /vst/ we love /our/empire.
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Anon01/25/26, 04:59No.2327898
I still haven't played EU5, but am I correct in assuming one of the biggest issues is that they gave too much to the simulationfags, and not enough to the historyfags and flavorfags?
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Anon01/25/26, 09:01No.2327944
I'm still on 1.07, is the league war never actually firing, causing the entire HRE to be locked in coalitions for 200 years fixed yet?
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Anon01/25/26, 21:14No.2328209
Having fun with modding, base game allows for some heavy autism accuracy-wise, unlike ck3.Character modding is a pain in the ass though.
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Anon01/25/26, 21:44No.2328226
I tried to pirate it, but apparently my 5 year old computer is not good enough to even launch the game
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Anon01/26/26, 16:05No.2328574
STOP THE COUNT!But seriously, I think a big reason is the 'honey moon' phase ending. Sure, the bad patches too, but I think many people are realising that there's so much (bloat) going on under the hood of this game yet not much of it really matters. The game tries so hard to disguise the fact that it's a map painter like its predecessor, yet creates some weird bloated abomination rather than being honest about its nature.I checked current player counts and EU5 is currently on 9k compared to 8k for EU4, which is pretty atrocious considering Paradox were billing this game as their next flagship title. It would be hilarious if actually drops lower than EU4.Personally I haven't played for about a month and have little desire to play anymore.To sum, Johan is an incompetent autist who thinks making MEIOU and Taxes 3.0 into a game was a good idea.
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Anon01/26/26, 17:02No.2328593
two more yearly passes bros, then EUV will be good
trust the plan
t. trusted planner
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Anon01/26/26, 17:42No.2328606
it's shitters coping because eu5 has actual mechanics and isn't mana management eu4
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Anon01/26/26, 20:09No.2328692
My fun game about growing an empire that was EU4 has been choked to death with a million tiny inconsequential decisions to make in place of engaging gameplay. In EU4 I decided on military and diplomatic strategies. In EU5 I decide on who my 4th cousin 5 times removed marries, and which slightly different kind of education my 16 children will receive. None of these things matter and will ever impact the game, but I have to do them anyway. If I didn't, I'd just be sitting and staring at the time tick by with nothing happening, so I sure am glad to have this illusion of gameplay instead of that.They took the MEIOU & Taxes mod from EU4 and made that EU5. That was a fine mod, but it only appealed to a small subset of the player base for a reason. Now if you play EU5, you have no choice but to play the MEIOU & Taxes way. Live and die by the painfully simplistic control system that makes certain logical ways of extending your control impossible. Behold a complex economy that you cannot humanly micromanage, so you will turn on the automation and never engage with any of it, making all the development work put into it worthless. Observe as the population system, intended to put constraints on things like early colonization, crumbles as European nations colonize the interior of Africa in the 1500's anyways. The game is a mess of systems that were made with the intention of being complicated rather than being interesting, fun, or even functional.
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Anon01/27/26, 13:14No.2329017
>playing eu5
>event pops up
>want to read the effects of the options the game presents
>hover the mouse over the window
>OOOOOOHHHH, UUUUHHHH, AAAAAAHHH
>random yellings
>laughs
SHUT THE FUCK UP WHO DESIGNED THIS STUPID SYSTEM AAAAHHH
Everything about sounds and music in this game is awful, please send help, how do I turn that off
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Anon01/27/26, 19:20No.2329201
What actually causes rebels? Any time I hover over my rebel notifications, it's always "unmet pop needs" but I see no way to tell what those needs are so that I can fix it. Is it just cultural acceptance? Am I hard limited on how much I can conquer by how many cultures I can tolerate because conversion basically takes so long as to be worthless?
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Anon01/27/26, 19:31No.2329205
it has WAY higher potential than any of their previous title, the problem is that it's fucking raw and devs keep doing retarded balance decisions
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Anon01/29/26, 06:05No.2330128
i have seen this picture for years, what is the story with this kid?