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Anonymous11/18/25, 08:53No.2245907
>play
>press buttons faster than the enemy
>win
Why is this considered strategy and allowed on this board? This shit is basically just Osu but without the music and in pvp mode.
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Anon11/18/25, 08:54No.2245908
this goes for all the games in the genre
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Anon11/18/25, 09:10No.2245929
So what you're saying is we should combine rhythm and RTS?
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Anon11/18/25, 09:37No.2245956
This nigga plays rts on a console
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Anon11/18/25, 09:39No.2245961
>Why is this considered strategy
It's not, but this board is very liberal when it comes to strategy since it allows visual novellas (/gsg/ games)
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Anon11/18/25, 09:48No.2245971
>unc has early onset arthritis
Vidya aren't for you anymore, old man.
Try books or something.
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Anon11/18/25, 09:49No.2245973
It's *real time* startegy.
So timing matter.
It's in the name.
Play HoMM if you need something turn-based.
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Anon11/18/25, 10:27No.2246007
>press buttons faster than the enemy
this is only half the battle
the other half is pressing the correct buttons
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Anon11/18/25, 12:27No.2246189
People like to think they're god-tier strategists, and that the only reason they lose is that the other person is faster or employed some kind of "cheese"
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Anon11/18/25, 13:14No.2246265
*laughs in LimitedViper*
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Anon11/18/25, 13:19No.2246274
pretty bad strategy to be slow and decrepit
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Anon11/18/25, 13:20No.2246275
>play
>press buttons faster than the enemy
>win
Why is this considered strategy and allowed on this board? This shit is basically just Osu but without the music and in pvp mode.
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Anon11/18/25, 13:27No.2246287
>inhale
>exhale
>live
I mean what the fuck
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Anon11/18/25, 13:43No.2246312
>I can't pause real life therefore strategy can't exist
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Anon11/19/25, 19:50No.2249661
RTS are multi unit action games.
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Anon11/20/25, 10:04No.2250513
>invent the radio
>win because i can give my guys orders faster than the radioless guys
wowowowow no. god needs to balance this out NOW
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Anon11/21/25, 08:16No.2252290
I've been saying for years, they're actually just a gradient of the same genre. RTS Games >>><<< Fighting Games >>><<< Rhythm Games
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Anon11/24/25, 23:15No.2260026
>playing pvp
You get what you deserve.
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Anon11/27/25, 04:09No.2265063
Fucking agreed. Really liked the concept of Anno games, but couldn't keep playing it because there was no effective pause and autopause.
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Anon11/27/25, 07:29No.2265239
pressing button faster than opponent is pretty much every PvP vidya .
every single game is just a skinner box of press button for stimulus. press button-->see output-->press button--->see other output
boiling down all games like this demystifies the expierence "breaks immersion" via awareness of conditioning which is the first path to breaking the conditioning.
looking back when video games was mainly nerd shit I see how people would look at gamers with pity and disgust. They are pressing buttons purely to hear the different beeps and boops on screen. and getting some sort of visual feedback as well. which amounts to something akin to masturbation.
like you could be more productive if you tried to play the piano or synthesiszer.
But anyways I agree with you OP. When I play RTS im not intersted in hitting hotkeys and other stuff. I like to sitback and enjoy the ambiance and environment of the game.
When it comes down to press button faster competitive play, I hardly see the point of a UI/UX and a graphical display.
you're more concerned with other stuff besides graphics. in competitive play.
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Anon11/29/25, 07:53No.2268708
You could make a game where there is deliberately lag between orders and action. But no one would play it.
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Anon11/29/25, 10:03No.2268780
The strategy is encoded in the proper combination of buttons pressed at the right time, just like in all games.
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Anon11/29/25, 10:24No.2268799
I'm not really the type to play RTS, but wouldn't most unit have timer to build? How does pressing button faster make you win?
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Anon11/29/25, 15:33No.2269267
Yeah I was over RTS pretty early on for the button mashing, actions-per-minute bullshit. Not gonna say its not strategy though, I just dont care for the format. There is turn based, but that feels a little too table-top for me. I loved the early Total War series for the fact it kind of combined the best of both. All turn based when it came to management but you still get to fight battles in real time with whatever resources you managed to strat into the battle in turn-based mode. It's real god damn shame they dumbed the games down so much and shitted them up with stupid mechanics. Now I can't find anything I like. The paradox stuff seems to be the next best format but it's also kind of boring not having real battles and just blobbing around. Anybody got other suggestions?
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Anon11/29/25, 16:41No.2269362
Mr Slow on YouTube. 20 APM still wins. Not just clicking faster.
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Anon11/29/25, 22:02No.2270055
I haven't played AOE 2 against another human for about 6 years or so now. And that was just a series of matches against a friend of mine I knew personally.
If you play ANY game competitively and care about winning or losing them, you're an irredeemable basement faggot and really should get a job.This board is for normal people who only play AOE 2 and StarCraft 2 single player for the kino campaigns and maybe to get gold medals.
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Anon11/30/25, 04:53No.2270721
I've never considered gookclick to be strategy.
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Anon12/09/25, 21:26No.2289339
Play better games and not gookclickers.
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Anon12/10/25, 09:24No.2290040
>play
>have higher iq than an enemy
>win
Why is this considered strategy and allowed on this board? This shit is basically just having superior genes but online.
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Anon12/12/25, 06:16No.2293242
Aoe 2 is the easiest game of all age of empires, is literally a baby game.
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Anon12/13/25, 11:30No.2295064
I wish I could still play RTS. My wrist is shot. I can't use a mouse anymore at all
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Anon12/13/25, 11:46No.2295079
If you lose simply because your opponent is faster than you, that just means you suck at strategy as well as being fat and slow.
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Anon12/21/25, 15:17No.2303905
If only there was a way to combine real time and turn based strategy to get the best of both worlds. Too bad the only company to ever do it turned into ultraslop with zero competition.
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Anon12/30/25, 14:02No.2311600
this board would be pretty much dead if the strategy thingy was actually enforced. rts games and total war games unfortunately do shit up the catalog but at least the
>people
playing them are contained in a few barely alive threads. I doubt they would fuck off to reddit if they weren't able to post here so it's good enough I guess
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Anon01/03/26, 17:52No.2314689
Actually the problem is that gamers optimize the fun out of everything and in AoE and RTS games in general that means you must follow the flowchart for your particular civ and failure to do so results in losing the game as your opponent is following their flowchart and RTS games come down to who follows their flowchart the quickest. In AoE especially the flowchart is far more important than even micro. This makes the game great for PvP as if both sides follow their meta build orders the game becomes purely skill based, the problems arise when you try to use a more fun but suboptimal build order or unit type. If you want an easy civ that has a good winrate in shitter elo then just spam Goths, Byzantines, Magyars and Franks or even Teutons, also Britons but they're Archers so they need a bit more micro.
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Anon01/05/26, 15:05No.2315891
play Knights&Merchants
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Anon01/05/26, 15:42No.2315904
>basically just Osu
I'd say it's more like racing.
>run a few laps on a race track to get the feel of it
>tune up your car for straights/curves/off-road/drift/whatever
>hog the road so others can't overtake you
>effectively recover from a spin-out
>go recklessly when desperate
>hope for a miracle when too far behind to catch up
It takes speed to win, obviously, but also knowledge, assertiveness, restraint, composure - basically a lot of experience to play very well.
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Anon01/15/26, 20:04No.2322220
This is why true strategy games are turn-based.
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Anon01/16/26, 06:28No.2322438
The whole problem with RTS is that it's 90:10 when it comes to doing actions with precision and speed and doing all that strategy in real time. The strategy comes in when a player's army is in the wrong place and it loses them the game. The strategy comes into play when a player realizes the enemy wins if the status quo continues, so they're pressured to attack.RTS has those elements, for sure. It's unfortunately not the focus of RTS. It might seem like it is to people who already mastered the precision and speed of input. Would you like chess if you had to read a passage from a book before you make a turn? Plenty of people out there would find the game unaltered. They've learned to read fast. RTS players seem like the kind of people who would have trouble with that. They'd rightly question that the focus of the game seems to be in reading really fast.
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Anon01/16/26, 23:11No.2322847
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Anon01/24/26, 19:48No.2327663
I played AOE1 and AOE2 when they came out. I simply refuse to believe that anyone is still playing them in current year, much less playing them with a fucking console controller. This is elaborate bait.
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Anon01/27/26, 19:32No.2329206
I hoover around 1100 elo and 100% of my wins are against people with higher APM
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Anon01/27/26, 23:58No.2329373
Bros are still arguing in this low quality bait thread
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Anon01/30/26, 12:45No.2330877
if my slow 100apm having ass can hit near GM in 2010 peak SCII fervor, the game is not about clicking button fast. there is something to be said about build optimization and rote repetition of that, but then in any turn based game you pretty much have the same thing anyways. take civ for instance- by turn 1-2 I want my settler down, I should time my first settler to finish building by pop 3 and the scout or warrior should be home by then to escort it, i want my first golden age by x turn etc etc. so if you're complaining about that I have to just assume you've never tried to play the game to win against a tough opponent or even player the harder AI and might be a midwit.
>inb4 words words words
sucks to be illiterate, git gud.
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Anon01/31/26, 03:17No.2331309
This conversation in general needs a reality check. Data seems to indicate click things really fast (= latency) at a high volume (= APM).
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Anon02/06/26, 12:57No.2335025
Tb will always be better because of difficulty. You can easily execute a extremely difficult tb fight if you know what you are doing.
RT on the other hand is literally reliant on apm and pathfinding gods being generous if you actually want a difficult fight to go well.
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Anon02/13/26, 18:58No.2342087
people are retarded, APM is about knowledge of the game, not about clicking fast
go ahead and click really fast in any RTS game. What did you achieve? You have 500apm but you're not doing anything.
You have to actually know what you want to do in order to do it fast. You're executing a series of deliberate pre-planned actions according to your knowledge of the game and its mechanics.
To a troglodyte normgroid, RTS progamers are just mashing the keyboard and winning. But when the normgroid tries randomly mashing the keyboard really fast and he's not winning, he just gets mad and calls the game and genre bad and incomprehensible.
RTS games are a litmus test and the greatest IQ filter of all time, just look at all the seething turn-based babbies complaining about their subhuman brain functions. If you put 1% of that turn-slop passion into actually bothering to learn an RTS game, you would very quickly realize how retarded and factually invalid your arguments were
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Anon02/14/26, 08:29No.2342529
>muh apm
>muh storymode
>muh competition
why are there dedicated ragebaiters for RTS?
it's a dead genre that only people in their 30s care about
shouldn't a smaller demographic mean less mops that don't play the games?
I understand why /v/ is 99% baitposts like this. vidya has a low barrier to entry and appeals to teens which means its saturated by retards, but why does /vst/ get these posts?
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Anon02/20/26, 11:30No.2347643
Give me two SC2 players. Equal in literally every other manner. One can press buttons 120 times a minute.
The other can press buttons 80 times a minute. Who has the advantage?
Let's take it a step further. One takes 300ms to press a button, the other takes 400ms to press a button. Who has the advantage?Don't give me this crap
>but it's not 100% about pressing buttons!!!!!!
>you can't press random buttons!!!!!
You're smarter than that.Face it, RTS is partially about pressing buttons faster. It's about other things too. It doesn't need to be about pressing buttons fast, but they deliberately designed SC2 to give you an advantage if you can do actions faster.
Part of the reason it's such a good cognitive test is that you're required to press buttons fast.These "I play at a high level with 100APM" experiments tell much less than you think they do. What experiment would be interesting would be to give a pro a neuromechanically terrible keyboard and see how well they do with it. What I mean is, give them a keyboard with random tactile feedback. I bet you that they'd be surprisingly awful with that.
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Anon02/20/26, 20:18No.2347987
I prefer TBS, when i see or play RTS i feel like im playing soccer with my units moving them frantically left and right instead of leading a army with proper order, the only "rts" who somewhat managed to make it bearable was total war and even then some TW are also victim of gookclick
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Anon02/24/26, 19:37No.2350691
all of you are faggots
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Anon02/27/26, 23:57No.2352965
>>press buttons faster than the enemy
majority of e-sports
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Anon03/01/26, 18:03No.2353969
Doesnt most good RTS have scenarios where you have to work with what you got against odds or micro them?
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Anon03/04/26, 10:35No.2355404
Why are map randomizers not a thing?
Imagine the seethe if a sweaty had to play an unknown map.
Of course it would need some kind of referee or point balance mechanic to ensure people who get the worse spawn do not get shafted entirely.
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Anon03/06/26, 17:14No.2356952
Even if you click faster, if you make the wrong decisions, you are going to lose.
You just need to think better, multitasking gets easier with time and experience
Maybe you just have low iq
