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Anonymous07/08/25, 13:29No.2088485X4 foundations
Diplomacy update public beta out NOW
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Anon07/08/25, 14:30No.2088530
Have they fixed the UI being so cumbersome yet?
I cant get over how this game is so cool but would be much easier to control as if it were sins of a solar empire.
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Anon07/08/25, 20:49No.2088768
It sounds like faction relations will only changed based on player input, can anyone confirm that factions will not change relations with each other on their own?
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Anon07/09/25, 07:05No.2089017
Fuck yeah dickplomacy.
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Anon07/09/25, 10:47No.2089122
good to be back.How disappointed are we?
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Anon07/09/25, 17:59No.2089479
How does the diplomacy interact with the old diplomacy questlines?
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Anon07/10/25, 16:41No.2090192
I guess version 8.00 is probably going to be the last one, right? Is there any other DLC on the horizon?
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Anon07/11/25, 09:01No.2090707
There is currently a bug in the beta where if you buy blueprint/license from the ambassadors in your embassy, the cost gets instantly refunded after purchase. Meaning you can get blueprints for free
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Anon07/11/25, 09:30No.2090726
This game frustrates me with how tedious it is in certain sections. Why do I have to search around manually for comm data leaks to get a black market contact so I can smuggle illegal goods. It's just retarded.
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Anon07/11/25, 21:36No.2091268
The starwars overhaul is great
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Anon07/12/25, 11:06No.2091707
>more new unowned sectors
>more trade ports
I wonder why.
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Anon07/12/25, 17:38No.2091973
Just got back into the game after a few months, and HOLY SHIT they finally added a command to let stations and fleets automatically order new ships from your shipyard when one gets destroyed.
This qol-feature was long overdue, especially for a retard like me who always forgets to buy new ones until I wonder why my stations don't produce shit anymore lol.
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Anon07/13/25, 04:37No.2092417
How do you hire more agents?
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Anon07/13/25, 22:51No.2093219
So I got a bit into diplomacy now. just the start.
>good end game use of resources like spacefly eggs
>blueprint stealing finally
>some more endgame stuff like war and peace
All good. Less good is
>fallen families are diplomatic but you can't really react to them
>Just started but they didn't seem to add many really unique events except one to make heretics end non neutral.
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Anon07/14/25, 10:03No.2093578
if i've never played an X game, where should I start and which ones should I skip?
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Anon07/14/25, 16:43No.2093943
Only ship blueprint I really want to steal is the Prometheus from Duke's Buccaneers. An all in one combat-trader hybrid.
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Anon07/16/25, 07:05No.2095266
have they touched weapon balance at all in the past year? or is it still hilariously unbalanced to the point where everything other than plasma and flak are just newbie traps?
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Anon07/16/25, 18:29No.2095693
>Want to try out if AI actually has improved
>Send a few destroyers to attack a Xenon defense station
>"Huh, they actually keep their distance while shooting, nice! Guess I'll send them back to where they belong now"
>Instead of keeping their distance while flying away, they just crash directly into the station and get instakilled
Guess AI hasn't really improved, but is now a bit more.. different.
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Anon07/17/25, 05:00No.2096206
did they fuck with EMP suit bombs mechanism? I researched all the "chance to get x from leaks" tech but i haven't gotten ANY blueprints even after shitting out something like 12 EMP bombs.
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Anon07/17/25, 14:37No.2096586
>Added new travel-mode bubble effect
???
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Anon07/17/25, 14:59No.2096605
I hate to say it but diplomacy is a little on the boring side.
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Anon07/18/25, 05:22No.2097106
>pick up the game again
>completely forgot about how fucking awful and dysfunctional most orders are
>download the sector exploration mod so i don't lose my mind drawing circles in every fucking hex in the map
>completely forgot about how modded orders can randomly ignore travel blacklists because Egosoft autism
>lose scouts to Xenon stations despite blacklists telling my ships not to fucking fly there
this game sure is something huh
i bet we totally needed that fucking flight model update that made everything fly like fucking riced out tokyo drifters instead of an "finally finish implementing the basic fucking features after 10 years" patch.
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Anon07/18/25, 12:08No.2097229
Well yes, the flight model change was good because decoupling shields from boost was good.
I do agree that they need to fix ai exploration or give us an alternative like buying system info.
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Anon07/18/25, 15:52No.2097359
i can't be the only one who wishes torpedo replenishment would come with a capacity limit, or program a way to just fucking carry the extra torpedoes in carriersseriously how did they not see any problems with a single fighter sucking up an entire freighter's worth of raw materials to max out its magazines? this makes torpedo bomber wings of any size basically a nonstarter even for massive fleets
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Anon07/19/25, 07:30No.2097792
>Vanilla has a hidden mechanic which checks if your mining ships are within 40km of a resource probe owned by you and silently applies a 50% penalty to mining efficiency if they are not. Thus, players are unknowingly hamstrung by this mechanic as there is literally no way to learn it exists in-game.
>Even when using a mod like Satellite Service to automatically blanket the entire sector with probes, it is still possible to receive this penalty because the probes are deployed on one plane. Therefore, you would receive the penalty if the ship moves >40km above or below the probes. Covering the entire sector with probes also reduces performance and visually clutters the UI.
what the fuck is wrong with germans
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Anon07/19/25, 23:06No.2098286
That one Split mission is STILL bugged? The one where you plant bombs on cargo drones and then have to pick up crates. I memoryholed how I never got to finish this mission over multiple runs and now I'm running into the issue again. Where's the fucking box??
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Anon07/21/25, 16:24No.2099536
Is there any way I can assign ships to respond to my miners getting attacked within the sector as a priority alongside patrolling on a set route?
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Anon07/21/25, 23:25No.2099911
What do you anons do to get past that midgame slump where you don't really have a fleet to fight but do have some growing factories and just mindlessly reinvest until you have a wharf?
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Anon07/23/25, 14:03No.2101272
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Anon07/30/25, 04:57No.2108104
>automatic sell amount sometimes creates no sell orders
>have to manually set it to sell all but 1 before any freighters start showing up
i fucking hate that this trash is the only game of this type in the business
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Anon07/30/25, 07:07No.2108139
X5 will fix everything when it releases in 2030.
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Anon07/30/25, 07:13No.2108142
interesting. terran main batteries won’t fire in OOS combat. if you have terran capital ships with 4+ star pilots but without 8km+ range turrets, they will stay at standoff range but won’t do any damage to enemies. they’re effectively useless in mapmode combat until you get infra set up to mount paranid plasma turrets on them.
i don’t know if other factions’ main batteries are the same way.
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Anon08/02/25, 23:18No.2110820
>try to board erlking
>forgot about the retarded boarding mechanics
>now i have to destroy the turrets to proceed
>can't tell where the fuck the turrets are located
yeah that's enough of this game for today
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Anon08/03/25, 01:22No.2110872
>Investigate: Xenon and Kh'aak incidents
can someone tell me wtf i'm supposed to do to "investigate" these random spawns? the game sure as hell ain't fucking telling me anything as usual.
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Anon08/08/25, 13:59No.2114975
I just bought this game and OH MY GOD its perfect
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Anon08/10/25, 15:19No.2116472
They are being really quiet on the next dlc. Not even a hint of what it is.
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Anon08/13/25, 14:04No.2118626
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKZIE-Uvvhc
>The Envoy, a new stealth-ready frigate jointly developed by the Argon Federation and Teladi Ministry of Finance
>The mysterious Cypher, an unauthorised variant often found in pirate hands
>A new mission chain in your Open Universe that leads to the discovery and unlocking of the Envoy
>A new gamestart that immediately draws you into the Envoy's storyline
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Anon08/14/25, 04:49No.2119146
browsing the mods section is a goldmine of hidden game behaviors and stupid fucking bugs>In X4: Foundations, the Lost Ships Replacement feature was introduced in version 7.50.
>This feature allows the fleet to request a replacement ship if a ship is lost during the execution of an order. The replacement ship will be requested automatically, and the fleet will continue to execute the order.
>However, when you enable the Lost Ships Replacement feature for a fleet, the replacement ship will come with only a captain/pilot in place.
>In reality, there are some other crew members on the ship. This extension fixes this issue and reveals these "phantom" crew members on the ship.
did they... play this patch at least ONCE before releasing it?
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Anon08/16/25, 00:39No.2120611
if i like eve will i like this?
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Anon08/16/25, 01:40No.2120647
surely i can't be the only one who keeps running into graphical performance issues even in relatively quiet sectors.
this game runs like absolute dogshit for how jagged it looks. how did they make it look less like shit in the flight model patch promo material?
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Anon08/16/25, 20:46No.2121305
you should try adding more verticality to your stations. it introduces some interesting problems and forces you to adapt visually distinct solutions. try it once and then never touch it again because station-crafting UI is fucking terrible and elements always snap to whatever the hell they want.
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Anon08/20/25, 18:31No.2125322
The based nig deleter mod (Sensible Demographics) was just fixed for the beta.
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Anon08/21/25, 18:20No.2126346
Is this anything like single player EVE?
I played EVE for like a week and it was fun, just disliked the whole online and time gated shitI'm basically hoping it's a sandbox where you can do whatever you want in it from trading to go around sending ships out on raiding plaents or space stations or something
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Anon08/27/25, 21:47No.2131425
You think they'll charge the same price for the envoy pack or up it a little bit because it's two ships?
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Anon08/28/25, 00:32No.2131535
is there a mod that increases the number of docks for build storages? this shit takes forever to sort through the incoming traffic with bigger build orders.
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Anon08/29/25, 19:34No.2132959
Looks like the new flight model broke AI docking in transit. I just have a trail of S ships behind my carrier now.
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Anon09/01/25, 02:29No.2134671
Will I get a decent fleet battle if I terrorize the Earthlings? I've mostly been fighting Xenons and they never really attack with a massed amount of ships. It's at most 6 ships. I can mass produce carriers and their fighters now but there isn't anything to use them on.
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Anon09/04/25, 15:10No.2137035
I wish they'd add an option to let factions conduct diplomacy amongst themselves without player interaction so you get an evolving, changing universe.
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Anon09/10/25, 18:13No.2141890
How's the diplomacy update? Do you just go to some station and decide that two factions are at war now and that's it, or do you need to put in some effort like doing small quests to alter relations?
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Anon09/10/25, 20:58No.2142000
How are the new ships?
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Anon09/11/25, 11:29No.2142331
>built a load of stations
>nearly all are shit and produce fuck all
I may start over, I'm a noob. I'd see a hole in the market, start building a station, and by the time it's built and ready the AI have already built a station for it and I can't compete.
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Anon09/11/25, 18:32No.2142614
ideally, your early game logistics network should look like this:
>mining station -- located right in the sector where all the resources are. if you're lucky and the sector also has 75%+ ish sunlight, make your mining station double as a refinery
>production station -- located 1-3 jumps away from your mining station, closer to the "central" universe than the mining station, preferably somewhere with okayish sunlight so you can produce energy in-house. refine your metals/gas here if your mining sector isn't suitable for it.
>power station (optional) -- if you see a good spot for your production station but it has garbage sunlight, then look for a sector a few jumps away (as few as possible, to save on freighter costs) that has good sunlight, something like 175% or higher. set up a station there solely for the purpose of producing energy cells.
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Anon09/11/25, 19:08No.2142630
Did anyone actually try the new ships?
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Anon09/14/25, 05:19No.2144603
The missiles were bullshit tier strong in TC too, though I believe the ai didn't usually spawn with them, or failed to use what it did spawn with. I'm pretty sure someone at ego forgot that the fragmentation option didn't actually split damage amongst submunitions when they made that one ATF anti-cap missile. A single ATF missile dealt more damage than an entire volley from a commonwealth ship, and it can fire volleys too.
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Anon09/14/25, 06:16No.2144615
>new start is a teladi health and safety inspector
Goddamnit egosoft is tempting me.
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Anon09/15/25, 21:56No.2145935
This game is fucking awesome. Over 100 hours in now and some annoyances (destroyer AI, no outlines on unbuilt resource probes wtf, some mystifying trade/logistics issues) but otherwise it's everything I ever wanted from a game.Might start a new save now that I have some idea of what I'm doing, how is the new start with v8.0/Envoy?
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Anon09/19/25, 01:19No.2148689
...Bros?
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Anon09/20/25, 00:12No.2149486
Is the stealth functionality from the new ships fun or useful, or is it just a shallow gimmick? The full interior seems really nice.
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Anon09/20/25, 07:38No.2149612
Started as a terran cadet.
Investigated some station thing.
Now I'm fucking lost in space in a scout ship. Fuck.
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Anon09/20/25, 08:15No.2149623
I remember playing X2 ages ago and liking it even though I didn't understand much of it. What's the best way to get into X4?
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Anon09/22/25, 20:01No.2151370
There was an AMA. I don't think they are really planning x5 anymore. The ships seem to be working out for them big.
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Anon09/26/25, 14:36No.2154588
anons I wish to seek your council, what exactly is causing my GPU to cook off? it's a 2080S so it should be fully capable of rendering this game
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Anon09/28/25, 16:40No.2156713
I've really enjoyed the diplomacy expansion. Envoy/Cypher are very useful for diplo. There's something that the high prestige ships do that isn't obvious: they heavily reduce the time required for the mission, maybe by 40-50%. They have neat insides that you can use to sit while not seeing outside so there's less lag late game. Furthermkre, you can start a teladi v Argon war and the like to get the heat off HOP. What really surprised me was having PIO go hostile to ANT. Antigone Memorial got absolutely thrashed. HOP is now eating the new sectors all the way to Ore Belt. With the economy changes, some gigafactories donated to factions via build missions and the Xenon overtaking the north, there is so much fighting going on it is insane. At any moment there are 1-3 fleet fights with 5-8 destroyers and 20+ other ships involved. Very fun to watch. Hyperion is easily my favorite ship for running around and watching these fleets and the occasional Xenon stomping. Maybe at some point I'll build a sector with many gigafactories and start purging the fleets. I think you can make peace afterwards too.
PS. Yaki women have best models. RIP are good too. The PIO skirts with glasses might be best.
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Anon09/28/25, 16:55No.2156727
If you use custom budgeted, get 27 rep with Quettanauts of Fallen Families. They have really great skins you can apply to your ships. Buccaneer is better, Tempest is pretty cool but you can't unlock buccaneer for all your ships and if you form Tempest you lose out on farming purple mods.
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Anon09/30/25, 13:38No.2158701
gay lag game
t. gay lag game noticer
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Anon10/03/25, 23:28No.2161934
Left game on for a week lads. It finally crashed after 7 days or so uptime. Can I get some Fs?md0sd
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Anon10/04/25, 11:06No.2162209
Are there any mods yet to tweak the diplomacy update to allow for it to happen without player interaction?
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Anon10/05/25, 23:04No.2163790
It feels like they made it much harder to get seta components
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Anon10/08/25, 19:52No.2166492
whats out of zone combat like in this game?
as in when fleet combat takes place in a different area than the one you are in and it autoresolves i suppose
i quit X3 i remember cause it was so stupid there
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Anon10/10/25, 00:36No.2167817
Tip: you really want to corral the Xenon into a corner of the map. The idea is to keep their supply lines all internal. So if you blow up all their stations except the ones in Tharka's Cascade through Savage Spur, they'll build all their wharfs and shipyards in those places, which produce the SEs that then fund their warmachine and long story short Xenon have taken Hatikvah 1 and I keep seeing Xenon fighters pop up all around the highway and there's a graveyard of L freighters on the HAT gate.
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Anon10/10/25, 02:08No.2167888
I just built my first wharf.
Why does it take an estimated 8 minutes to build a small fighter when a NPC wharf can do it in 1?
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Anon10/18/25, 21:29No.2176717
>start up a new game
>they removed the first mission from the hatikva storyline
For what purpose? I loved grabbing the callisto as an early courier for the player hq. Now it feels disjointed as fuck because you just show up with reen and dal acting like they've seen you before.