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Anonymous04/06/25, 01:17No.2008988Age of Wonder Four(4)
best big kang build before they nurf them for their next dlc?
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Anon04/06/25, 01:23No.2008994
i just finished an earth giant playthrough where i immediately got the giant aoe boulder throw that effects like 3 hexes. shit is so funny. gonna try a halfling rp slut build with tome of revelry morale shenanigans next
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Anon04/06/25, 16:17No.2009617
giants might be a little overtuned lol
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Anon04/06/25, 16:37No.2009640
whats the best way to play them?
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Anon04/06/25, 18:27No.2009768
Poorfag here, can someone help me out with getting this mod?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2970473841
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Anon04/06/25, 19:25No.2009822
I’ve done a rock giantess industrial culture, frost with primal wooly mammoth, and I’m doing a fire pure chaos oathsworn strife build. I think the most fun so far is the fire giant as you just raze cities non stop on a giant map. I’d say primal culture just kind of sucks now but frost is fun. Rock is just good and with industrial you’ve got a hard hitter with plenty of tanky units and decent physical range with clay arbalists. Gonna do a storm giant next and go astral and see how that goes after I finish off my remaining two opponents in the fire playthrough
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Anon04/06/25, 20:21No.2009868
The new Feudal is actually pretty cool. Just finished a game as Feudal Aristocrats and not only is it stronger than old Feudal, but creating your own noble houses is a lot of fun. I really hope they can continue working on the game for long enough to update the remaining launch cultures as well. Not all of them strictly need it, since Barbarian, Industrious and High are all decent to good already, but it would be great to have more subculture options for them and you can tell that the devs are more willing to be creative with their mechanics designs than they were at launch.
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Anon04/06/25, 21:05No.2009907
Oh my fucking god! Industrious Materiauim is ass cancer hard now if your first war is Oathsworn or Mystic. Just get fucking iced by post-patch megabuffed battle mages
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Anon04/07/25, 03:11No.2010206
What's up with Feywater Pond? I thought that the removal of the vision penalty from Fey Touched would remove the inability to see within your own misty territory
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Anon04/07/25, 05:34No.2010307
bros i am BAD at this game
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Anon04/07/25, 05:54No.2010322
Do you play custom realms?
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Anon04/07/25, 10:37No.2010442
Why are nymphs hot babes in AO3, and every other games in the franchise, but weird plant creatures in 4?
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Anon04/07/25, 16:49No.2010852
ice giants might be the strongest giant subclass
>boulders with a really high chance of freeze
>summon ice glaive is maybe the strongest summon weapon
>get to be isolated at the start which really lets you ramp up big
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Anon04/07/25, 19:12No.2011041
wait, why did they make forging tedious? do people like it? do people actually bother to smith low level gear? how can you consistently get enough of the special essence stuff you need to forge usable items? even as a warmongering race of people without leg or mount slots I struggle to fully outfit one hero before the game ends
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Anon04/08/25, 03:56No.2011498
>3 Turns left til expansion victory
>Allied with 3 other rulers, so just need to coast
>Suddenly peer over the other side of the map and see that one of the 3 actually got off their ass and killed off the last non-allied ruler
Shame I had to break the alliance this way but I beacons is the last victory type I hadn't achieved
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Anon04/08/25, 13:36No.2011855
>add 1 good feature
>remove 3 good ones
soulless garbage these series has become.
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Anon04/08/25, 16:28No.2012032
How's the weeb culture from the ways of war DLC?
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Anon04/08/25, 16:37No.2012038
i'm gonna try a dark necromancy/chaos build next with an eldritch lord i think
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Anon04/08/25, 17:15No.2012070
hey guys, what's a transformation fetish?
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Anon04/08/25, 18:09No.2012114
I wish there were more pure frost tomes out there. Kinda stinks that you're only option is frost/poison necro or ghostfire.
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Anon04/08/25, 19:55No.2012253
primal culture used to be able to reduce mountain ranges to swamps - they epitomized the terraforming theme in a cool way and had to go and seek out nodes etc to get the most out of it. Terraforming skips mountains now, and a society trait does the fantasy infinitely better (umbral disciples with altars of marching gloom), and now giants also put the primal culture to shame. Their combat summon was admittedly OP to start, but that got killed too - there's no reason to play them
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Anon04/08/25, 20:34No.2012304
Pirate sub culture for reavers when?
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Anon04/08/25, 21:33No.2012344
what subcultures would you wanna see for barbs?
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Anon04/09/25, 02:10No.2012589
>Astral materium culture
>gets a t3 skirmisher with bayonets and rifles
PLEASE
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Anon04/09/25, 02:13No.2012593
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1669000/discussions/2/596271645583228276/
patch notes
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Anon04/09/25, 06:26No.2012753
I don't like the Blessed Dragon mounts.
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Anon04/09/25, 13:57No.2013104
Just re-downloaded the game. My heroes don't have signature skill options and my godir can't seem to access his class skills. Known issue or my install fucked up?
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Anon04/09/25, 15:54No.2013202
How often do you stay the course or deviate from whatever affinity you're lining up with?
Whether it has a major transformation, a different power spike, or just something super thematic you MUST have at the higher tiers. How often does wanting to pick useful low tier stuff keep you from higher tier tomes?
I keep doing this partially only because my brain SCREAMS to have empire development points in every affinity, except maybe Order and Chaos
>through my dumbassery of picking random tomes I JUST NOW fucking realized Warding syncs pretty nicely with Industrial, especially if you get anymore tomes that give your support unit free actions like Mending or Tinctures
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Anon04/09/25, 19:34No.2013436
>Chaos Reavers gain spoils from warring with free cities and empires as default
>Astral Reavers gain spoils from exploring sites and capturing magic resources
>Double Materium Reavers gain spoils by building province improvements or something, idk
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Anon04/09/25, 21:05No.2013554
>Cleared an infestation before remembering to claim Call of Chaos again
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Anon04/09/25, 22:50No.2013670
Is the combat fun and worth learning? I usually just auto resolve because I like the map more than battles in 4x games, but idk if I'm dicking myself over and losing out on some snowballing capabilities if I just rely on going with nothing but a stronger stack all the time.
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Anon04/09/25, 23:16No.2013703
How do skirmisher rangers stack up to the other classes? I'm assuming I can shore up defenses if I make them a WK but I'm really more used to my ruler being a warrior or defender beat stick
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Anon04/10/25, 01:39No.2013894
i'm using cult of personality this game and it seems crazy strong for snowballing
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Anon04/10/25, 03:16No.2013943
are champions fun to play?
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Anon04/10/25, 04:43No.2013983
man dark feels like shit to play, their economy is brutal
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Anon04/10/25, 13:14No.2014272
I wish you could set some spells to never be used by the autobattle. I’m tired of accidentally picking up something like Monstrous Rebirth and having the AI just delete my armies over time because it thinks it needs to cast a spell if it has the spell.
>Turn off auto-cast
But I want it to still use healing spells and whatnot, I just want to turn off specific spells.
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Anon04/10/25, 19:06No.2014672
whats your guys map size /modifiers of choice?
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Anon04/11/25, 04:51No.2015305
lol made the mistake of trying to play a no free cities game. not doing that again
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Anon04/11/25, 15:03No.2015747
>still running Attunement Mystic midgets
>finally getting into playing out manual combat
>still sticking to predicted even fights
>even if my projected power is actually MUCH higher due to spell casting potential
>intentionally ram into my closest neighbor, who just so happens to be a grim reaper who replaced the actual ruler through intrigue
>gonna finally get that fucking manual battle achievement
>look so motherfucking silly having all these 1% achievements for doing story realms but not the 40% manual battle one to prove I ain't an autoresolve pussy
>bait the reaper tossing scouts or wounded heroes clearing far off wonders at it, we're on a budget here.
>still have amplifier lens at the capital, first turn casting, lot of shit to incentivise manual control
>kite, self heal to huge temp HP proportions, spam that crystal slam spell the dwelling sold me
>win every single one
>no achievement
>turns out they have to be 'risky' not 'impossible'
This was funny, but I'm running out of enemies to fight and Wonders to clear
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Anon04/11/25, 16:49No.2015838
anyone played with world seals?
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Anon04/12/25, 24:57No.2016242
What are some of the most op race/tome combo's atm? I usually build for RP but every once in a while i like to just play whatever is broken at the time.
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Anon04/12/25, 02:53No.2016377
What do you think about the victor conditions of the game?
I don't think I've actually done a magic victory since the change since traveling to golden wonders was a pain in the ass.
Score victories are dull.
Military victories are okay, but it's a bit lame that it counts as a military victory if you become overlord of the one guy who didn't want in on the alliance.
Expansion victories... well they exist I guess.
Seals are ass.
I dunno, I'm never really convinced that anything other than military victories are worth the effort.
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Anon04/13/25, 06:42No.2017517
I'm not gonna lie. I'm upset at the size of the Rewards section. The vast majority of it is just either a braindead simple shape for banners or a "skin" for a trinket that doesn't actually show up outside of the inventory menu. There's no reason it shouldn't have tons more.
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Anon04/13/25, 11:01No.2017670
I decided to check this game out.
I have no idea what's going on.
My guys are getting killed by the AI doing like mega AoE damage and inflicting like 100 damage a turn with like 12 debuffs, and I have no idea how that's happening or what I'm supposed to do about it.
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Anon04/13/25, 13:11No.2017780
Are any magic types as fun as necromancy?
I want to branch out, but all the other stuff looks like it just changes the flavor of damage and the specific unit to spam summon, but is otherwise the same.
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Anon04/13/25, 18:11No.2018035
I guess it was this?The replay isn't quite the same. But basically he keeps casting two spells per turn, and deleting my ruler in a single turn by doing like 40 damage with each spell.
And then he can just continually AoE 4-5 of my units on the board each turn for like 15 damage each, casting Condemnation, Cosmic Ablation and Fulmination, which then leaves a status effect that does like another 10 damage at the end of their turn.
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Anon04/13/25, 23:41No.2018377
>come up with a neat name to use and form a gimmick around
>since an original thought was had, there is an overwhelming autistic urge to fill everything else out manually too
>mind is a fucking blank filling in all the other shit
how often do other people have this problem making 'your dudes'?
Also despite all the other kickass ruler types, Reaver is the only one where I'd still play as a mortal Champion due to the fuck awesome snazzy outfits
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Anon04/14/25, 24:21No.2018443
Rate my dudes.
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Anon04/14/25, 24:32No.2018452
>play random regenerated realm
>undergrown start
>astral plane divided by sea with each ruler having their own little place
>cool i'll just do magic and play tall
>have to travel a mountain and reach an undergrown passage to find the first free city which mirrors your race
>give them the stone
>declare war with me anyways
>less than 5 turns in a silver dragon infestation appears on my capital
>another 3 turn later a dragon ruler declares war on me and send 3 doomstacks with 3 level 6-7 heros to me
well that went to shit pretty quickly, had to save scum like 10 turns earlier and invest everything to somehow win against the dragon tard and make peace with the mirror race free city but now i lost all will to play because i save scummed
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Anon04/14/25, 24:39No.2018455
Game keeps crashing whenever I try to start the Sehiran Oasis or Arcalot story realms. I can start random maps just fine. Any advice?
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Anon04/14/25, 02:12No.2018521
i'm playing an oathsworn strife pirate faction with experienced seafarers and ruthless raiders. nautical champion leader. playing on a desert island map with seals on and honestly ths might be the most fun i've had yet
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Anon04/14/25, 04:26No.2018587
I feel like being able to pay the seer guy 700 mana to instantly get the entire above ground, underground, and umbral realm mapped is really dumb and should be removed as it breaks one of the more fun parts of the game.
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Anon04/14/25, 07:42No.2018665
I really hope to see more done with the ocean in future expansions. I'm eagerly waiting to be able to have an entire empire based in the sea.
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Anon04/14/25, 10:38No.2018745
man lmao i was winning by every metric in my last game, only had one enemy left to beat by military and had score to fall back on. i checked score like 20 turns ago and i'm up by like 100 points so i'm like cool i got a buffer here, i'm sieging his capital and i'm about to win either by score or military. i don't finish in time and score ticks over and somehow i ended up losing??? i had completely had him dead. how does this even work
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Anon04/14/25, 10:48No.2018751
After seeing how feudal got a T4 unit, every culture should have an evolving Tier 2 unit into T4, idk how theyll make it work but I think its something nice for a revamp on every culture.
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Anon04/14/25, 13:30No.2018884
ever since i updated my gog version Wizard King and Champion are all kinds of fucked. They either can't spend skill points or their class skills are missing from the skill tree
what do I do? Uninstall base-game and reinstall it?
Or do I delete even my Documents folder where all my profile and saves are?
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Anon04/14/25, 19:37No.2019249
What's the early game build plan for everyone? I always focused getting units out as often as possible in the early game so that I have units ready for my second hero and their eventual stack. For cities I focused on food generating buildings and farm provinces to help get that expansion right out the gate, then gold/knowledge, followed by draft, followed by mana, and then production. Ultimate goal of course was getting 2nd and 3rd cities down ASAP.
Just saw a video that went other someone else's build plan and it was all focused on production and said buildings provide more than provinces that's making me question everything. Even ignored unit building for the most part in favor of building buildings.
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Anon04/15/25, 01:46No.2019567
whats the best non-hero shield unit?
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Anon04/26/25, 05:24No.2020054
Does anyone have decent learning materials for this game? Youtube is dogshit and it's not popular enough to have a real community on discord or reddit or whatever.
I just wanna learn how to be more efficient with my cities so I can abuse higher tier units without the upkeep killing my economy.The hardest seems to be underground empires but maybe that's just me.
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Anon04/26/25, 10:05No.2020159
What's your best animal build? This is what I'm thinking:
https://minionsart.github.io/aow4db/HTML/FactionCreator.html?u=40:2,c7,2b,5a,eb,50,s,ac:a4:a7:9f:b7:a0:a5:b6:9c,000000,1ac,a,h,n:r
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Anon04/26/25, 20:10No.2020521
The MP community says your research needs to be 10x the turn. With astral/shadow I find this to be easily reachable but I'm struggling to make it work on other affinities.
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Anon04/27/25, 24:38No.2020736
Any strong cultural shock troops out there? I want to do a shock based army but i dont want to default to warbreed or tyrant knights for a change.
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Anon04/27/25, 03:46No.2020829
Newfag here, is playing wide a viable strategy? It feels like most of my games end when I have 4 or maybe 5 cities, and there's times where I just feel like blanketing the map with my domain's borders.
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Anon04/27/25, 03:47No.2020830
Anyone else having fun leading doomstacks of giants across the seas?
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Anon04/28/25, 24:38No.2021403
Any lore nerds know if there's a reason why there's no Nature Giant option? Seems like a weird omission like I can see maybe Order Giants given the focus on terraforming (but Nature could be forests and Order fields?) but lack of nature is weird to me especially since Dragons get all 6 and I'm pretty sure this DLC was double the price as Dragon Dawn. Really want to make a Nature Giantess ruler for some reason
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Anon04/28/25, 04:45No.2021492
deciding on starting tomes is hard
At least half the time
sometimes shit is obvious
>any mystic build? start with lightning shit
>want to give new feudal a go finally
>also wanna base it around that purifying fire tome
>can't fucking decide what to start with
>faith? zeal? pyromancy?
>also the constant urge to dive into warding and alchemy for additional support unit actions
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Anon04/28/25, 04:51No.2021495
The only thing I will ever thank the multiplayer community for is if they manage to somehow convince triumph to make 1 unit type army stacks less braindead easy.
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Anon04/28/25, 18:17No.2021810
Is it just me or does anyone else want to do sand-themed stuff? I feel like a cool sandstorm/ egypt/ the mummy type faction would be really nice. I tend to play a lot of elemental builds where you terraform your surroundings and desert transformations are I think the only type of terrain without some tome or spreader.
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Anon04/29/25, 15:47No.2022424
I haven't played barbarian in ages. Any ideas of what to go with that isnt just chaos razing?
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Anon05/02/25, 06:22No.2024197
Already bored with the new stuff, it was awesome but still wish there’d been a full affinity of giant kings instead of just 4 and only two new tomes. Love the new handcrafted regions but feel wish we’d gotten 4 dlcs instead of just 3 this season hopefully archon prophecy isn’t too far away and we get a season 3.
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Anon05/02/25, 06:26No.2024198
Also forgot to add but I sort of hate all the umbral abyss stuff was sort of exiting on release but I just find taking umbral nests and dwellings annoying af and don’t really like picking tentacle or the major transformation. Wish we’d have gotten more fire demons and ice and vampire stuff instead as that’s the only real super evil focus dlc I guess reavers are rbil but idk feel like necromancy is kinda meh, dark culture kind of sucks rn, and I’m not too into tentacle monster stuff
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Anon05/02/25, 10:56No.2024326
https://youtu.be/Y-CrdbPkV-QElves and humans being the most popular forms is pretty much expected, but I wouldn't have thought lizardmen would be at #3 especially since they're a DLC race.
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Anon05/02/25, 13:37No.2024448
Is the game still generic as all fuck?
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Anon05/02/25, 18:04No.2024620
What niches would you like filled by a new ruler type? Speaking of vampires it's an argument you could apply to dragons too but I can kinda see them as the ruler that plays tall. Lots of focus on the throne city, a domain that rapidly grows and steals/corrupts even claimed lands. Espionage and ruler to ruler diplomacy could also be other aspects they focus on
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Anon05/03/25, 09:39No.2024978
Can someone shill this game to me? I think this is the first AoW game that didn't draw me in. And that includes AoW2 base campaign.
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Anon05/03/25, 20:38No.2025331
I wish the race creator had flaws as well as boons. You can't recreate older AoW races, like elves weak to blight, slow dwarves or orcs who suck at ranged combat.And speaking of blight, I hate how AoW4 handles damage types. Give me back proper immunities and vulnerabilities, how the hell do I kill magma spirits with a fireball or poison an iron golem?
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Anon05/05/25, 02:03No.2026263
>Decide to make a faction with a giant storm king and primal crow because I thought that the idea of halflings riding hippos (elephants) down rivers was funny
>Take experienced seafarers
Goddamn, I was getting a shitton of resources from basic provinces. I had more mana than I knew what to do with, enough to make my summoners jealous.
Anywho
>3 player map, allied with one, defensive pact with the other (they're fighting, of course)
>Start magic victory
>Other dude asks for an alliance
>Agree
>Military victory
...I don't think I could get more 'diplomatic victory' than that, what the fuck?
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Anon05/08/25, 03:58No.2028944
Any new mods to make the female giant kings sexier?
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Anon05/12/25, 07:50No.2034112
Remember what they took from you.
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Anon05/12/25, 13:36No.2034353
I got the game pretty recently. Crimson Caldera is such a difficulty spike! I suppose I either need to hide and smallpox my cities up in my corner super fast, or then try and spam harrass one neighbor at a time while defending the other front
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Anon05/12/25, 18:48No.2034588
When are we getting tieflings? No, oni and demonkin transformations don't count.
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Anon05/16/25, 21:54No.2039033
>giant kings
No. I WILL play a dragon lord for the 389th time and I WILL like it.
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Anon05/19/25, 24:30No.2041087
>wizard lord
>dragon lord
>eldritch sovereign
>giant king
erm. no thanks. i'll just make another fifty mortal champions, if you don't mind.
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Anon05/20/25, 03:47No.2042241
Been a while since i played, they nerfed full hero stacks right?
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Anon05/20/25, 15:12No.2042730
I forgot how silly things get with regenerating infestations.
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Anon05/21/25, 20:12No.2044113
some new from the archon DLC the new culture isn't a order one
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Anon05/22/25, 07:04No.2044658
some news from the archon DLC it will be a promotional crossover with EU5 and the new faction will be Ulm
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Anon05/28/25, 04:34No.2051333
drider major TF when
I found dark elf executioners way more useful than these things back in AoW1, but if they inserted a naga TF why not a spider one
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Anon05/30/25, 03:31No.2053401
Now that the hype has faded, I think giant kings needed more content for the $20 especially since Ways of War is half the cost and included way more times a new culture happenings and all that. I think giant kings is my favorite and I buy the season pass anyway but it sort of felt like a smaller DLC. I wish each alignment had a giant king instead of just four and there were more tomes included. The new units and enemies are fun but given the price wish there was just more included
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Anon05/30/25, 12:20No.2053748
Is there a way to make elven females look more like in AoW3?
Right now apart from one, maybe two faces they all look like ugly old women tired of life
Similar thing with human females
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Anon05/30/25, 15:12No.2053926
Anyone tried doing a single player game with several rulers in hotseat just doing PvE against a hostile environment? High world difficulty, high happenings, regenerating infestations, angry city states, umbral invasions, etc?
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Anon06/02/25, 03:44No.2056624
Getting tired of every AI taking slip away. I swear its 3 out of 5 that take it now. It just drags on fights and is annoying to clean up.
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Anon06/03/25, 12:04No.2057697
I have no idea how to pace in this game, I feel like I'm always super behind because I look at the AI and they have like double my cities with 3x as much pop (on normal difficulty) so I think I invest too much in military and then I lose battles against random infestations so I'm somehow not investing enough. What's the general build order, when should you be settling and how much military should you have in like the first 30ish turns?
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Anon06/04/25, 24:42No.2058364
Give me a reaver build to try, its the only culture ive never been able to click with mostly cause i can never think of a way to go with them.
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Anon06/13/25, 17:07No.2066680
with wightborn being a thing what is even the point of vampires?
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Anon06/14/25, 13:45No.2067196
Why isn't the game more popular? it's way better than civshit, and more modern. I think a lot of people know about the game and of its good opinions but still don't try it
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Anon06/14/25, 21:55No.2067493
How good is this if you want to fuck with necromancy?
Like full on 'enslave the world, send out plagues to kill cities, raise everything and steamroll' or more like HoNM3 where it was just 'you get to raise skeletons and that's about it'
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Anon06/16/25, 13:48No.2068634
A whole bunch of info on the upcoming DLC has just been dropped:
https://www.gamewatcher.com/news/archon-prophecy-dlc-coming-to-age-of-wonders-4-on-august-12
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Anon06/16/25, 14:37No.2068650
>August
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Anon06/16/25, 16:14No.2068702
Post (You)r pantheon, you have one, right Anon?
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Anon06/16/25, 16:15No.2068704
I’m hyped after the YouTube trailer for archon prophecy, 2 new story maps is cool can’t even remember if ways of war had a story map think it might have been back when Eldritch Realms released. Glad undead stuff is coming and I’m excited for the Archon stuff despite not playing any previous games in the series.Like the other anon said disappointed there’s not a new dwelling and there’s apparently only one (1!) new wonder according to the stream page. New hero class sounds cool though and I’m hoping the new update brings a culture rework I’m hoping Dark since undead tomes are incoming though honestly I hope we get more than one rework this time.Also August 12 seems so far was hoping for a July drop but I guess Dutch get summers off to go visit spice islands or something
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Anon06/16/25, 16:33No.2068736
Since we may have traction because of the announcement. What's your go-to mod?
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Anon06/16/25, 16:39No.2068751
>Forge your destiny with Prophecy Traits — new society traits that help you shape your empire. Early in your journey a vision will appear, challenging you to define your ruler’s purpose and ambitions. How you interpret it is up to you, but fulfilling the Prophecy will unlock powerful rewards.neat. also finally a paladin hero class is nice too
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Anon06/16/25, 18:37No.2068834
>Tome of the Revenant – Channel the power of the dead, and take vengeance against the living.
I like more necro stuff but im also hoping this lets them reshuffle another shadow tome to add more frost magic that isnt tied to necromancy, and beyond tier 3. But im probably coping with that one.
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Anon06/17/25, 01:05No.2069093
"Architects" as a culture sounds really vague. I'm guessing it'll be vaugely Greco/Roman themed and have a chariot unit, just to bring all the new content together, but that's just a guess, the name and description implies almost nothing about how they fight or dress.
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Anon06/17/25, 01:28No.2069105
>2 dwelling types
>You have to destroy one of them if you're not evil
Orphaned feature...
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Anon06/17/25, 20:24No.2069662
I'm curios how defensive the battlesaint will be, like would it even be allowed to do the retaliation defender shenanigans?
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Anon06/19/25, 11:31No.2070987
>still no unit modding
it's never coming back, is it boys?
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Anon06/19/25, 17:32No.2071252
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/dev-diary-43-archon-prophecy-the-architects-part-1.1791352/
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Anon06/19/25, 18:17No.2071302
time for a race of fat women
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Anon06/19/25, 21:16No.2071503
man i hate the music design in this gameit has so many nice music tracks but they get constantly interrupted by tha same lame ones whenever you click on half of the clickable things
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Anon06/20/25, 19:57No.2072550
But can you make an actual archon?
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Anon06/20/25, 23:49No.2072833
>tfw no actual archon gf to make actual archons with
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Anon06/21/25, 24:58No.2072889
I kinda hate the numeric value on resistances and armor doesn't really mean anything. Having a 50% resistance to a damage type is perfectly clear in what it does, but what the fuck does +2 fire resist mean? I know you can hover over the number to see the actual percentage, but what's the point of the number, then?
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Anon06/21/25, 04:37No.2073017
>still can't make water elementals
ree