the great debate - /vrpg/

Anonymous03/04/26, 08:05No.3938887

The Great Debate

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Anon03/04/26, 08:36No.3938900

I'd say Owlcat in general caters to a niche CPRG audience.

Anon03/04/26, 09:57No.3938916

Larian wins every time.

Anon03/04/26, 10:05No.3938918

I'd say they're both fucking awful

Anon03/04/26, 10:16No.3938920

polar opposite audience. larian basically stepped in for bioware.

Anon03/04/26, 10:31No.3938924

Larian streamlined CRPG multiplayer, and added environmental interactions, so that's a plus for me. Owlcat redid BG1 and 2

Anon03/04/26, 13:02No.3938959

Comparison is the death of the self.

Anon03/04/26, 14:08No.3938990

Until BG3, I would’ve said Larian. Now they’re both meh. Owlcats games are like trash novels you buy in the airport and read for a flight, not great but serviceable and can be enjoyable if you don’t have anything better to do. By contrast, BG3 is actively awful and one of the most disappointing games of all time.

Anon03/04/26, 14:33No.3939002

I really dislike companies doing owlcat style dlc release bg3 is miles better for everything you get a game, you buy it once and you get the complete experience. Done

Anon03/04/26, 14:48No.3939008

I keep coming back to owlcat's games.Larian's games are flashy and have more production value, but not much meat beyond the surface level. They're both good, its just if you want to replay a game over and over Owlcat's got more for you.

Anon03/04/26, 16:40No.3939044

I like both desu

Anon03/04/26, 16:54No.3939056

BG3 is genre and industry defining despite what 4chan hipsters will say. Owlcats only good game so far has been Rogue Trader. I haven't played WoTR but kingmaker was dogshit by act 4. Time will tell if owlcat can continue to improve and if BG3 was an anomaly for larian.

Anon03/04/26, 18:39No.3939099

>janky as fuck but still decent games >overhyped garbage with terrible writing and gimmicky gameplay Yeah I take the slavjank.

Anon03/04/26, 19:24No.3939120

trash vs garbage

Anon03/04/26, 20:06No.3939135

I like both for different reasons. I like Owlcat becasue i like to micro manage builds to get EXACTLY the character i want. WoTR was fantastic in that respect and the mythic paths and the mounts gave even more extra layers.As for Larian, i like Larian because builds aren´t everything. Both DoS2 and BG3 have great verticality and world reactivity. You really have a ton of control in how to solve any given conflict, from dialogue choices to affecting the environment or distracting an NPC while another get what you need from it. You can even get away from traditional dichotomies. Most games would force you to choose between Goblins and Druids, Harpers and Ketheric, Orin and Gortash... but not BG3. In BG3 you can actually be pragmatic rather than just cartoonishly good or cartoonishly evil. And the presentation is fantastic.Both games have problems in the party conformation/companions and overall plot and world design but they are still great experiences.

Anon03/05/26, 01:50No.3939269

>picking a side to argue in a debate when both sides are wrong and garbage couldn't be me

Anon03/05/26, 17:23No.3939587

>one is shit the other is also shit >us or iran >larian or owlcat >piss or shit The answer is neither

Anon03/05/26, 19:33No.3939632

What debate? Financial wise. Larian outsold anything owlcat made and will make. Quality wise, Divine divinity alone beats anything made by Owlcat. Original sin series is certainly better than pathfinder just because of the horrible trash encounter rate in pathfinder games. People can bitch about larian and bear sex, but their games are above owlcat attempts.

Anon03/05/26, 20:04No.3939656

Let's be objective. Owlcat >Slavs with no experience who had to flee their home country and scrape together projects in unity Larian >Decades of experience in RPGs and saved by Chinese funding in the heart of the EU using American and UK writersEven getting compared is a win for Owlcat. Obsidian is right out.

Anon03/06/26, 01:55No.3939781

theres not a single thing wotr does better than bg3

Anon03/06/26, 13:19No.3939971

bg3 is troonslop and owlcat has made the most well written 40k media ever

Anon03/06/26, 22:33No.3940178

>Owlcat releases a fresh title or a new DLC once every year/six months.>Larian churns out one game every 4-5 years.It's not even a competition, those two studios have completely different philosophies.

Anon03/06/26, 23:12No.3940202

not the biggest fan of either but I can't say I haven't enjoyed some of their games so they're both alright in my book

Anon03/07/26, 16:55No.3940423

They both make sodomite simulators, you're a fag either way.

Anon03/07/26, 17:02No.3940428

Thanks but I don't need more than this.

Anon03/10/26, 04:54No.3941785

i like both but owlcat games are way more bloated and the pacing is awful. town management/heroes of might and magic battles were awful and felt like a huge waste of time. also alushinyrra fucking stinks. despite that i do like their games and have finished both pathfinders twice. i put like 15 hours into their warhammer game and it really just felt like more of the same and i got bored very quickly.

Anon03/11/26, 08:02No.3942417

I would be more fond of Owlcat's games if they didn't drop the ball so hard on encounter design. In such lengthy games with so much combat, it becomes a pretty big issue that almost none of the enemy groups or environments are interesting in any way, and the only way any foes even attempt to pose a challenge is through massive stat values. Larian's better games still have their flaws, but the combat is a lot more enjoyable. Larian's games generally have pretty weak writing, but that's something I can more easily forgive for the most part.

Anon03/11/26, 11:09No.3942481

The thing nobody talks about is enemy AI, BG3 enemies are sentient genAI compared to the braindead scripts owlcat enemies are using.

Anon03/12/26, 00:25No.3943017

No debate for me! Game design is king, Larian makes good gameplay and good level design, its a funtime for me to engage in their maps/levels and explore them, solve their puzzles and encounters with fun tactical flexible combat system with good sound effects and animations and fun spells and synergies. Their writing is even more reactive and their quest design is more open ended.Owlcat games bore me, they are a snoozefest, i dont like their game design at all, their levels and dungeons are too linear and too shallow, its a one layer instead of the multilayered larian maps. Their encounter design is lazy trash mob spam and their boss fights are unremarkable, i dont like their combat system its rigid, hollow, boring and creatively bankrupt, their production is weak and their writing lacks a lot of the reactive and quickness found in larians rpgs, its just walls of text upon walls of texts and its honestly not inspired at all, at the end of the end its all generic high fantasy.If i wanted good writing or interesting stories there is a ton other better places to look for, even videogames, but if i wanted that rpg game design goodness then larian is where its at.

Anon03/12/26, 05:56No.3943166

BG1 and BG2 have okay writing and plots. Nothing special, not terrible. Servicable. BG3 has the most insanely awful writing and plot I've ever seen in a video game. I am not exaggerating or using hyperbole. It's wall-to-wall cringe from the very start of the game until the very end of the game, from that particular brand of leftoid millennial/gen x Joss Whedon Marvel quippy TV show watching bullshit. It's extremely immersion-breaking, out of place, and fucking stupid. You will literally roll your eyes while playing BG3. Doom had a better plot and writing than BG3. Dawn of War had a better plot and writing than BG3. Diablo 1 had a better plot and writing than BG3. Games without any plot and writing have better plots and writing by default, because something that's average or forgettable is less bad than something that's in-your-face retarded and terrible. Anyone that would ever, even infinitesimally, praise the plot and writing of BG3 immediately reveals themselves irrevocably to have absolutely trash-tier and inexorably, aggressively Wrong opinions on video games. The only thing that a reasonable human being could say about it was "Yeah, the writing and plot sure were shitty, but I still had fun and enjoyed the tactical combat and the level design" or whatever. Then, even if I may disagree with their overall conclusions, I can still recognize that I'm speaking to a sentient human being. The more games try to focus on the plot and writing, the shittier they get. Less is more. It's supposed to be there and get out of the way, not detract from the overall experience and break your audience's suspension of disbelief. Get the fuck out of here with your garbage donut steel OC "companions". Include full custom party creation as the intended and default single-player experience that doesn't require janky or tedious workarounds. Respect your players.

Anon03/12/26, 17:40No.3943410

Perhaps if most EA players weren't faggots Larian wouldn't have wasted time rewriting Shart, Tav being what he is, reducing Dark Urges shenanigans, trying to rewrite the guardian.

Anon03/13/26, 09:26No.3944095

Larian has their issues but owlcat games are genuinely miserable to play.

Anon03/14/26, 05:07No.3944678

Does /vrpg/ think it's special for being contrarian towards BG3?

Anon03/14/26, 10:33No.3944782

Owlcat is weird, niched. Larian is specified but popular-which invites troublePic is unrelated though, I just love Top down games

Anon03/14/26, 16:02No.3944893

Has Owlcat made a good game yet? I played both of the Pathfinder games and they were awful. They have literally the worst encounter design in any CRPG, hordes of generic buffed mobs just roaming around without rhyme or reason, and the only way they are able to make a boss fight "interesting" is just by having a big dumb generic monster and buffing it into the stratosphere. The writing is extremely millennial and full of fags, cuck bait and loud black girlbosses. And to top it off, they keep polluting everything they do with these worthless little DLCs nobody asked for instead of just making a good expansion to the story.That's not to say Larian is much better, especially when it comes to their godawful writing. You get the same amount of faggotry, but then you also get the absolute worst sense of humor ever experienced by mankind. At least they're not addicted to DLC and they occasionally have combat encounters that require more tactics than mindless prebuff into tank and spank, so that puts them well ahead of Owlcat at least.