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Anonymous03/02/26, 21:35No.3938087DISCO STYLE CRPG
So the two discolikes, zero parades and esoteric ebb, anyone else feel weird about them?
I didn't like them. Am i being unfair or weird about not liking any of the disco likes? Ebb I feel is so easy to know the DNA of it, that you feel you know how it was approached to make it not disco elysium, I know which skills and elements it wants to lift but I am not interested.
Zero parades just feels off and uninteresting? It feels like catching a movie that you don't care about, it's headache inducing. The skills and everything there.
Both games really want to cast and have Harry but they just can't sell it. I don't feel like both characters are justified in trying to copy Harry, the so random and pathetic options don't come across as honest. It's dollar store Harry. I just don't know why. The skills and settings are uninteresting, the quality of writing is inferior.
When i played DE, I was in from moment one, I just liked it and kept playing. I replayed it over and over. The copies dont grab me like that
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Anon03/02/26, 21:37No.3938091
the problem with making a narrative non-combat "rpg", in reality a digital gamebook, is that the game relies entirely on the player liking the writing and characterization.
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Anon03/02/26, 22:53No.3938165
Mate. Your arguments are "I don't like it".
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Anon03/02/26, 22:57No.3938169
>two
hold on to your butt. zero parades is one of these five.
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Anon03/02/26, 23:00No.3938172
>Am i being unfair or weird about not liking any of the disco likes?
Please stop crowdsourcing your opinion. You're allowed to dislike things even if they're "objectively" good.That being said, I've tried the Ebb demo, never even of heard of the other one. I didn't actively dislike it, but I found it a bit boring/uninteresting. I like the idea of actually having combat, but it wasn't enough to hook me. It ended up reminding me of why DE's skills are so fun; as well made as the skill system is it wouldn't have been nearly as enjoyable without unconventional skills. Being able to spec into Conceptualisation, Electrochemistry or Inland Empire is great. The skill list feels tailored to the game they're making, and the character of Harry. Using regular DnD stats isn't as impactful IMO.
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Anon03/02/26, 23:31No.3938203
>anyone else feel weird about them?
I'll say the same thing I said before, DE was an attempt to copy Torment and it failed at that, so copying DE is lazy. They are obviously doing it for a quick buck, not because there is something in DE worth copying.
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Anon03/03/26, 19:17No.3938616
It's literally sovl vs sovlless
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Anon03/03/26, 21:09No.3938649
DE is not a cRPG. It’s a point and click adventure game. Hope this helps.
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Anon03/03/26, 21:55No.3938662
The problem with the games you listed is that they attempt to be something else. That's exactly why Disco Elysium is peak soul, because it didn't just try to be the spiritual sequel to Planescape: Torment.
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Anon03/03/26, 22:57No.3938691
I played the Ebb demo, and it has the same problem a lot of soulslikes have - misunderstanding the thing they copy.
The guy liked DE because of talking skills, he said as much in his dev posts, but instead of making something he himself finds interesting or fun, he just copies DE or takes straight from D&D where he's unsure what to do. We got politics, straight man sidekick to idiot MC, the skills are BLATANTLY copied (Con is just Shivers, Dex is H&E coordination etc.), and the MC has to have amnesia even though there's really no good narrative reason for it (the reason is the admittedly cool intro). The most interesting part of the demo was talking to the imp lawyer, simply because it was something not copied.
DE works mostly thanks to the relationship between Harry and Kim, instant hook of a murder mystery and intriguing, internally coherent world. Political dressing and the quirky shit is just a bonus and jingling keys for the normalfag audience. Ebb dev decided to just copy the keys.
I'll pirate and see whether he improved things from the demo or is it still just as uninspired. Art is nice I guess.
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Anon03/03/26, 23:08No.3938696
Having extremely low strength in Esoteric Ebb is pretty funny
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Anon03/05/26, 22:37No.3939708
Ebb has a strong presence of cute girls and I like that.
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Anon03/05/26, 23:13No.3939729
You're not the boss of me, game
I'm not setting foot in that fucking tea shop
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Anon03/06/26, 12:08No.3939954
What made DE work was good writing and interesting, unique worldbuilding. Ebb and ZP just copied surface-level elements instead:
-talking skills
-quirky dialogue options
-stylish presentation
-dice rollsalso the narration in the ZP demo might be the worst voice acting I've ever heard in a video game lord almighty
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Anon03/07/26, 01:09No.3940226
You guys voted for the Freestriders, right?
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Anon03/09/26, 00:17No.3941227
So for the bugbear, the orc, the angel, and the sphinx, what are the best starting stats in order to maximize my flirt chances with them?
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Anon03/10/26, 08:37No.3941830
Max Charisma, everything else balanced. Easy-peasy, and everyone loves me.
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Anon03/11/26, 07:11No.3942401
>just got to the ending
Holy, kino. Not as good as Disco, but honestly as a much more politically heavy rendition of the formula it was good. Some funny moments too, though still you can tell it's an indie game (a few errors in word usage or as anons pointed out the conversion of units among other things.) I did enjoy the setting
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Anon03/11/26, 15:14No.3942581
>genre of glorified VNs for pretentious and autistic redditors
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Anon03/14/26, 09:55No.3944773
So i'm playing Esoteric Ebb and probably finish around 70% of the game at this point. explored all the 3.5 locations that city have. Go through all the City Below and now going to do undercoast. I would say this game is basically everything that Disco fans trying to persuade you Disco was. You can even actually roleplay as evil racist chud without feeling an absolute a joke, because Esoteric Ebb isn't actually trying to portray you as pathetic as possible in this game, compared to Disco, where commie dev basically forbid you outright to keep being chud if you choose a chud thought(like...-1 mental health for choosing a chud options, really? And for what? Bonus stats for drinking alcohol you don't going to drink, if you self-respecting nazi, or just wish Harry the best.)
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Anon03/14/26, 19:54No.3944991
The discussion in this thread perfectly encapsulates why these interactive media experiences aren't good games. It's all political and psychological character analysis intermixed with bad humour.