i dont think ive ever seen someone shit on this - /vrpg/

Anonymous02/03/26, 13:10No.3920492

I don't think I've ever seen someone shit on this game who wasn't a complete actual sub human. I don't even like the game, but nobody ever addresses it's real issues, people just poison the well of the discussion with shit that's either blatantly false or stems from the roots of having a skill disorder. (Skill issue, as it's more commonly known) Why is DS2 like that, why does it filter retards so god damn hard? (they probably didn't even play the game, but played SOFTS LMAO)

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Anon02/03/26, 16:19No.3920539

Pretentious

Anon02/03/26, 16:27No.3920544

ds2 has the same issues that all the fromsoft games have had.

Anon02/03/26, 16:32No.3920547

I genuinely don't get it either.Like, my first impression o the game was "oh, cool, the game is more responsive and snappier to control than the first", because it is, and I love that, but people act like this isn't the case and the controls are somehow horrible and laggy or some bullshit. 90% of 'criticism' of the game is like this, where people trash it for stuff that's either blatantly worse in previous game, or make up shit that's outright false (like, I've seen people claim that the woods enemies are both respawning and completely invisible).

Anon02/03/26, 18:14No.3920593

People do address the actual issues, it's that you fucks scream "FILTERED" because you refuse to engage in meaningful discussion.has actual meaningful discussion about DS2 and it's flaws, like the effects of ADP being poorly conveyed to the player

Anon02/03/26, 18:47No.3920618

>people just poison the well of the discussion with shit that's either blatantly false or stems from the roots of having a skill disorder Which issues are those?

Anon02/04/26, 03:41No.3920880

A lot of the criticism is valid (like the shitty boss fights) however I'll never understand the complaint for ADP, enemy "spam" and the area design. First of all you don't need to level that stat, you can dodge everything pretty easily even with a low number. Second, even if the game has more enemies than the first game, that doesn't mean you can't pull most of them into a line or a small pack. And third I don't see how a poorly connected map makes the game worse, it never broke my immersion personally.

Anon02/04/26, 12:17No.3921047

>making a new thread because you're THAT assblasted people rightfully criticized the black sheep game

Anon02/04/26, 14:00No.3921073

It has a bunch of unfun bosses.

Anon02/04/26, 14:10No.3921078

miyazaki fanboys are well known virgin homosexuals that lust after Gwyindolin and Miquella, of course they would hate the only entry in which everyone is 100% straight because he didn't work at itShanalotte is most stacked level-up lady btw

Anon02/04/26, 16:27No.3921126

The biggest problem with DS2 is you get too many fucking souls. It's so easy to hit soft cap in half a dozen stats and still have enough money left over to buy as many HoT items as you can carry and make you functionally invincible. Every character becomes the same.

Anon02/04/26, 18:05No.3921180

>why does it filter retards so god damn hard? (they probably didn't even play the game, but played SOFTS LMAO)DS2 is very unique in that it's not just meant to be hard. It is designed as player vs developer and the developer hates your fucking guts. Yes, scholar ruined the game and I will not elaborate on why.

Anon02/05/26, 01:20No.3921420

ds2 lovers are literally insane

Anon02/05/26, 06:51No.3921579

Anon02/06/26, 22:05No.3922333

ok but have you farmed those mad warriors, anon?

Anon02/06/26, 23:00No.3922356

Dark Souls 2 is a vastly superior game to Dark Souls 1 from a pure mechanical perspective. >powerstancing gives purpose to dual wielding weapons by vastly expanding your moveset >fire bombs properly scale with fire adjustment stats >nerfs shield stability which forces greatshield turtlers to engage with the game >pyromancies require stats instead of being a widely available cheese >spell uses can be restored through consumable items >poison and bleed build up scales with dex >deprived is properly SL1 with the lowest stats >every starting class can fast roll in their starting equipment >can buff infused weapons >three loadout slots per hand >four ring slots >bows and crossbows made viable >basic healing miracles can heal other players >dark damage type added >item discovery unrelated to humanity >spices can alter high level spell requirements >elemental urns to cover every element >durability made a legitimate concern for weapons >covenants have tangible rewards for every single rank >additional New Games add different enemy placement, loot, and unique spells I could go on. Dark Souls 1 has better environmental storytelling, art direction, and atmosphere but that's all it has going for it.

Anon02/09/26, 16:55No.3924252

Game sucks, how was I supposed to know leveling my HP and Stamina stats is mandatory and that they boost my HP and Stamina? Game never explained that and it just added an extra unnecessary step

Anon02/10/26, 01:33No.3924529

this is just one dude samefagin... No one likes ds2

Anon02/10/26, 10:36No.3924749

I HAVE A +5 SMELTER ULTRA GREATSWORD NOW COME HERE YOU GALLOPING MOTHERFUCKERS I'M NOT AFRAID OF YOU ANYMORE AHAHAH

Anon02/10/26, 18:32No.3924907

DS2 forces you to engage with enemies in a methodical and intentional fashion, and punishes players for attempting to sprint past everything straight to the boss. Players that started with DS1 and never played Demon’s Souls end up getting filtered by DS2 because DS1 is by far the easiest title in the series and allows you to skip a majority of the game with ease due to master key, outright ignore challenging mobs, and become overpowered on virtually any build as fast as you want. Strength build? Pick bandit, grab zweihander at firelink, level a bit to two hand and the game is trivialized. Dex? Kill undead merchant, grab his katana and the game is trivialized. The fact you can instantly dive into the Catacombs, kill the easiest joke boss in the game for an obese 20k souls AND instantly get access to a smith who can infuse your weapons with fire just adds to how absurdly easy the game is if you know where things are. Oh, also killing Pinwheel maxes your flask count on top of all of this. And again, all of this can be effectively done within the first 10 minutes of play. For DS2, your character is going to suck for most of the early game and there aren’t instant short cuts to easy power. If you want to be good then the game forces you to invest slowly over time. DS1 lovers think DS2 is bad because they don’t want to learn how to be good at the game and would rather be handed overpowered equipment from the start and ignore enemies; in other words, game bad because hard.

Anon02/11/26, 02:48No.3925127

dark souls 1-3 are all great games. i may finally give demons souls a proper shot on rpcs3. its a shame the only way to play bloodborne on pc is by emulating it. same with demons soulselden ring is okay but open world is a meme and objectively makes the game worse

Anon02/11/26, 12:48No.3925318

Because DS2 could have been a 10/10 game just by cloning DS1 mechanics and spending all the effort on creating new levels and bosses in the same vein as 1. It geta fair criticism for pointless changes that some like and some don't.

Anon02/14/26, 04:44No.3927371

DS1 fags are seething because DS2 is harder to exploit.

Anon02/14/26, 07:24No.3927536

I'm playing it right now for the first time and the level design is simply superior to the first. Those little ambushes where a bunch of enemies try to gank on you are so good, as they force to use the environment and some strategical positioning. Also there are many little gimmicks in the levels that keeps them interesting and distinct from one another, like the bells in Undead Crypt and the spitting statues in Black Gulch and The Gutter. The maps are also on average better than Ds1's as they are much more sprawling with more interesting stuff to find (the expanded item list helps with it a lot). The only maps i disliked so far are Shrine of Amana, Heide Tower of Flame and Dragon Shrine.It has a "clunkier" feeling which i can't explain exactly but it just feels like you can react instantly to things. But it's unplayable on PC without mods, which is a travesty considering how old the game is already, so i just asked for a refund and pirared it.

Anon02/15/26, 16:47No.3928268

little bitches can't handle mobs with very high aggro, they just want to rush from boss to boss

Anon02/16/26, 02:11No.3928519

Love the gameplay, hate the world and lore. Simple as.

Anon02/16/26, 02:22No.3928521

The issue is it is obvious low effort cash-in like a lot of '2' games. Areas and enemies are all non-descript. The only thing I remember about it is the boss where it is filling with water. I didn't realize that was happening so that was kind of an oh fuck moment.

Anon02/16/26, 04:15No.3928557

all these games are boring shit where the only way you can possibly enjoy them is being a masochistic zoomer that likes getting pegged (literally and even metaphorically).

Anon02/16/26, 04:50No.3928567

The game wasn't Dark Souls 1: Again That's really what maybe 90% of the criticisms of Dark Souls 2 boiled down to. And in all frank fairness, I think it shouldn't have been called Dark Souls 2 since especially pre SOTFS it was 10000% more of a King's Field game than it was a Dark Souls game. Most of the mechanics and level design ethos it brought back that made people seethe were from other KF titles. The original plot for the prototype that got cut up and worked into Dks2 originally started as a script for KFV. Anyway, accordingly, the game punishes you immensely for being a retard that can't engage with its mechanics while rewarding you immensely for making full use of the game's systems. The way most people played Dark Souls 1 at the time was to engage with the game's mechanics as little as humanly possible, which they saw as "gitting gud" which is why it took until 2022 for people to realize en masse that consumable items were really strong when used right because a streamer made a viral "challenge" run.

Anon02/16/26, 10:33No.3928643

I'm hungry for some Dark Souls 1 or 2What's a fun build/weapon in your opinion?

Anon02/16/26, 20:23No.3928884

>killing pursuer pt 2 in iron keep >going well >make a mistake, almost dead >not a big deal >find a moment to drink estus >as the estus hits my character's lips an alonne captain suddenly runs in the room to oneshot me Couldn't help but laugh, all it needed was the WWE commentator yelling WATCH OUT WATCH OUT

Anon02/17/26, 03:33No.3929048

I can't do it, guys.

Anon02/17/26, 07:59No.3929248

I watched the old DS2 hate video and I didn't know he said something this stupid >adaptability is the best stat >why would you take anything else but adaptability For the sake of his argument, yes someone's playstyle may be all about that roll roll roll 24/7 life, but it's still a stretch, ignoring a lot of things.Though this happens with heated arguments. So insistent on proving a point that a tunnel vision gets activated.

Anon02/17/26, 14:53No.3929399

I've been having fun with these weapons Main hand >halberd >spear Off hand >whip >poison ricard's rapier Ricard's rapier can apply poison with the R2 combo which is pretty cool. Sadly I never got the Old Whip, whips have been fun to use. Too bad bleed isn't good in DS2, otherwise I'd use the spiky one.

Anon02/18/26, 01:11No.3929799

I'm playing DS1 right after DS2, and the difference that jumps out to me, is the lack of fast travel, and how I can plan routes through the world.I did darkroot garden after undead parish, and in undead basin I realized I could go to the valley of drakes and gain entrance to blighttown, new londo and firelink. Well instead I went to undead burg, remembered that the tower takes me to the bridge where i can get to lower burg and then burg or firelink or depths..DS2 got a tiny bit of that inside FOTFG and lost bastille levels.There's some other differences but maybe another time.

Anon02/18/26, 14:30No.3930372

Coming from DS1 knight to DS2, it does feel very weightless.DS2 intro and world are more decrepit, so a plate armor knight looks a bit off.

Anon02/18/26, 21:29No.3930651

Yeah, I dunno. DS2 absolutely has problems, but basically none of the common points are the actually issues DS2 has. I suspect, people go in looking for reasons to hate it, so find all the things that the entire series suffers from in new light. With a small degree of "Dark Souls 2 expects you to utilize options at your disposal, and a naked/tseldora Guts sword build will struggle if you obstinately refuse to pick up a fucking bow once or twice in your life". I really do think the latter issue is a bigger problem for most people than you would expect. People are used to these games having "correct" ways to play, either Poisemaxxing in DS1, Parry & cripplespam in Bloodborn, rollspam in DS3, and cranking your scaling to a million damage and skipping combat in Elden Ring, while Dark Souls 2 mostly really does expect you to look at a problem, and shift gears appropriately. And I think this fucks with people who approach the other games in a "this game is hard, but I play it 'correctly', so never have to think about it" sort of way. I think.It shares some spirit with Morrowind, I guess. By that, I mean, while there are absolutely complaints to be made, there are certain complaints that I hear, and IMMEDIATELY have a flash of understanding of what happened. In Morrowind, there's a half dozen complaints I see that make me see a level 1 character, with the dagger off that guy's desk, that the character has no skill with, butter knifing a mudcrab with 0 Fatigue, and complaining about the rng when they die. I just see it. Similarly, there are certain complaints of Dark Souls 2, where I see a character getting roll-caught by the fucking hippo in the river on their sixth attempt at fighting it the exact same way, and then being unable to complete FFG at half health, 1 estus, without despawning enemies along the way. I just see it

Anon02/20/26, 09:37No.3932037

>go through great hollow >crystal lizard drops titanite SLAB Those falling deaths were worth it. Now I got Morning star +15 Dagger +15 Fire Shortsword +8 Greatsword of Artorias is waiting until I get faith leveled up.

Anon02/20/26, 12:55No.3932100

reminder DS2 staff hates the player and they blatantly stated it in official material

Anon02/20/26, 14:02No.3932135

I love Lost Izalith visually. I can almost feel the oppressive heat. But what I can not comprehend is what's up with the enemies? Placeholders because there was a mandate that existing demons couldn't be used and no new enemies couldn't be created in time for the release? And then there's a titanite demon in the worst place to put a titanite demon in.Not having enemies at all would have been cooler. Well at least the fight against Kirk and the witch were cool. I nailed Kirk with a power attack from Artorias' sword which sent him flying.

Anon02/20/26, 14:48No.3932157

"Hey, I could try a health regen greatsword build" >paladin leeroy jumps off a cliff taking the health regen shield with him Fuck you Leeroy

Anon02/20/26, 15:18No.3932169

Slaying the spider firekeeper lady is morally correct, right? Being of chaos and all. And upgrading my estus would help the cause.

Anon02/20/26, 17:15No.3932235

Capra Demon is a somewhat cheap fight that exploits the mechanics of the 1-way fog wall to immediately trap you in range of Capra's jumping attack. But the only part that really bothered me was the rather long, annoying runback, leading to a rather tedious gameplay loop of 5-7+ minutes running back to the fight, then 2 seconds of trying to observe and react correctly to the ambush. I don't mind runbacks as a rule, but for most bosses you will have at least a couple of minutes to get a feel for it before failing and having to do a walk of shame from the bonfire.

Anon02/20/26, 19:26No.3932270

What kind of motivations did DS2 NPCs have? What were they up to?

Anon02/20/26, 22:19No.3932368

>that Sir Alonne runback yea, i'll just skip that boss entirelly lol What were they thinking??

Anon02/21/26, 06:40No.3932678

I remembered Seath being a pushover, but now I've been killed and cursed multiple times. I put the cursebite ring on so at least I won't be cursed, but getting his tail cut seems impossible. I could put on havel ring and go in armed with a dagger and see if fast rolling makes a difference.

Anon02/21/26, 09:04No.3932713

Artorias has always been my favorite fight, but this time made me appreciate it more. It also made me appreciate myself, for carrying a dagger and a bow, which won me the fight after having a hard time finding an opening to hit him with a greatsword. And despite using an upgraded tower shield, I still had to be mindful of stamina.

Anon02/21/26, 11:02No.3932752

I recently finished it and I don't get it, either. Maybe it doesn't have the same gothic feel of the first one? Or the fast travel mechanic? The boss fights are not as good?The last one I wouldn't know since I went full sorcerer so my fighting tactic was pretty much identical in every fight. Soul spear/crystal soul spear/heavy soul spam and avoid charges, rinse and repeat.The dlcs were a huge ass fuck for me since everything there was highly magic resistantOverall, it's a souls game and not a bad one.

Anon02/21/26, 19:09No.3932951

Gwyn was the only boss I didn't beat with a greatshield and fat roll. Too damn hard, and I didn't have the patience.Kalameet was the most fun boss for a greatshield build, and one of the best bosses in the series. Manus was great too, and the silver pendant magic deflection is a cool gimmick.My interpretation is that the witch Beatrice from Darkroot, who can be summoned for Four Kings, is the descendant of Oolacile's people.

Anon02/21/26, 19:58No.3932964

I enjoyed some of its quirks but adaptability was dog shit and just bloated its already egregious lvl system. Some of the covenants promotion to tier 3 I remember also being stupidly high for some reason

Anon02/22/26, 14:22No.3933358

reminder the Forlorn invaders are all women

Anon02/22/26, 23:52No.3933555

ds2 fans aren't real Souls fans, they talk about all the other games like they're alien to them, because they are.they are attracted to the game because they're contrarion intellectuals, that pick unfinished, deformed games, because that's how they themselves are.

Anon02/23/26, 14:37No.3933746

It’s the Majora’s Mask of Souls games.

Anon02/23/26, 15:41No.3933777

fixed the broken deadzones, you're welcome

Anon02/24/26, 12:50No.3934241

Playing a cleric has been a surprisingly fun alternative way to play Dark Souls. I say "alternative" because 1. Heal spells give a good reason to ignore lifegems 2. Cleric being suboptimal kinda makes it balancedI was going to go for sorceries but quickly noticed it's just mindless projectile spam. Clerics only have a few casts of projectiles, so there's reasons to pick your ranged battles, or to invest in bows or crossbows, or even pyromancies. That said, at 50 ATN I feel like I have enough ranged magic.I recommend trying a cleric in DS2.

Anon02/25/26, 07:30No.3934647

DS2 is like DESIGNED to have enemies survive attacks by a sliver of HP left. It's so common I got annoyed by it, being out of stamina and waiting, or getting counter attacked like a fool. Then I thought of carrying a crossbow and throwing knives to finish enemies off and now I feel cool instead.

Anon02/25/26, 14:43No.3934828

I finished Dark Souls 2, vanilla without DLC. The story side of the game is a mess. Even the graphics show the game was rushed out.It is a disappointing game after Dark Souls, and that disappointment might be why it got unfairly treated. That and the hate bandwagoning.Nashandra apparently wasn't designed to fight against ranged characters.

Anon02/28/26, 21:14No.3937179

Drip Souls II is the best

Anon03/01/26, 19:58No.3937674

The DS2 is curious because, well, what other action RPGs were better than this supposedly "objectively bad game"?I remember Lords of the Fallen but that one was so bad it faded into obscurity.

Anon03/02/26, 13:11No.3937921

Interesting bits from DS2 design works interview >However, rearranging the partially completed designs was extremely difficult. For example the character Lucatiel of Mirrah. Her name during development was Don Quixote and the Bell Keeper dwarf her Sancho Panza. They were originally designed as a slightly untrustworthy female knight and her bumbling, middle-aged squire much like their namesakes. But while I’m a fan of the source material inserting these two overtly comical characters into such a dark foreboding world just wouldn’t fit at all.>Next, the last boss, how about Nashandra. >Tonaki: Originally, she wasn’t going to be the final boss. She was always the monstrous, true form of the cursed Queen, so the character didn’t change, just her role within the game.

Anon03/03/26, 19:02No.3938610

Why are the NPCs in DS2 the only ones I feel anything for? Not just Lucatiel or the Emerald Herald, either. I'm more fond of Benhart and Vengarl than I ever was of Solaire or Anri.

Anon03/03/26, 19:13No.3938613

>but played SOFTS LMAO I thought that was the good version with all the bugfixes and dlcs?

Anon03/03/26, 19:15No.3938614

I did not like that I have to drag the NPCs into boss fights to advance their stories.

Anon03/03/26, 19:48No.3938624

I am doing Dark Souls 2 Genocide run. Systematically killing all the mobs until they all stop respawning.

Anon03/05/26, 04:19No.3939347

>everybody who critiques this game is a big meaniehead >I don't even like this game BUT there has not been good Souls discussion on 4chan since the PtD edition of DaS.

Anon03/05/26, 10:50No.3939454

I liked it but I got tired of these threads 12 years ago

Anon03/08/26, 20:58No.3941144

https://youtu.be/MTD_um5sc30?si=qgSRB4pHyZj9jRWhman the NPC summons and invaders in this game are really something

Anon03/09/26, 07:30No.3941333

I'm just going to say it now. The souls games were good and needed in the time they came out. They are also clunky and inspired a bunch of hack developers to copy their bullshit in their games as well. I wish this trilogy of games had never caught on as hard as they did. I'm sick to death of all the mechanics that have leached to games at large. Stamina management, losing your currency on death, and the dodge roll that everyone just fucking needs to have. But, especially the overall feel of them. The bleak, pointless pessimism these games have circulated is finally starting to swirl down to the sewer like they should have years ago.

Anon03/10/26, 09:29No.3941850

Ugly and lacks style.

Anon03/10/26, 12:36No.3941905

Bonfire ascetics, power stance, Fire/Lightning resistances influenced by water, those are still very cool mechanics and yet From just forgot about them. One of the reasons I stopped giving them money after DS3

Anon03/11/26, 16:16No.3942617

>one of the merchants is an obnoxious nigger and the game basically tells you to murder him to get his soul sucking set >another is a half-retarded jeet girl that hampers your walkthrough unless you waste a very rare consumable to get her out of the way >Forlorn are canonically black women that just love to invade at the worst time imaginable Is Dark Souls II the most racist entry in the franchise? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1TnxQRbaR0