after being told its greatest game over and over - /vrpg/

Anonymous12/23/25, 19:19No.3896448

After being told it's greatest game over and over again I finally decided to give it a shot. To my surprise not only it wasn't any good, it was downright bad >No options to roleplay. All quests are linear and all "choices" are entirely superficial. (For example trying to help cowled wizards and killing devs snowflake NPC results in instant fail and that's the ONLY choice I had after 3 hours of playing) >Game assumes that I care about their NPCs and focuses it's story around them rather than player character. Attempts to kill or dismiss imoen results in GM telling you NO YOU CANT DO THAT! THAT WOULD INTERRUPT MY PLANNED CUTSCENE. This makes the story fall flat for me because I have no reason to care for her since I've known her for two seconds (I don't care what's the lore if the game itself didn't make the effort to develop connection and just wrote "she's ur sister you must love" in her backstory. I also didn't like the fact that villain is being presented as le heckin hyper smart chessmaster who's playing everyone like a fiddle considering that he's actually pretty dumb but the game forces you to fail to advance the plot. >90% of the game is dungeon crawler combatslop which grows pretty stale really quickly I might be biased since I played Troika games before playing bg2 and the differences are night and day. It's like hopping on Fallout 4 after playing new vegas. It's very sad that Bioware's design philosophy prevailed over Troikas because it's much easier to produce combatslop than design engaging quests and story that allows you to roleplay and affect the world in a meaningful way.

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Anon12/23/25, 19:25No.3896453

you made the same thread /v/ got shut down and now come here to spam your shit. KYS

Anon12/23/25, 19:36No.3896454

troika was created by boomers who played original (B/X and 1e) sandboxy D&D Bioware are the next generation who played storyfaggetory 2e era slop

Anon12/23/25, 20:16No.3896481

>90% of the game is dungeon crawler Are you telling me Dungeons and Dragons is all about dungeons? Let me guess, it has dragons too? WTF I wanted a visual novel with dialogue branches why am I playing a video game instead?

Anon12/23/25, 20:35No.3896493

Read the first paragraph, stopped there. Don’t think I missed anything.

Anon12/23/25, 21:29No.3896520

I've seen this argument many times, and I'm convinced it comes from a tranny. There are many things BG2 does wrong, but motivating you to care about the main quest is done better than probably any game I've ever played.You were imprisoned and tortured by the most annoying git in the world, and when you got out and were ready to tear him a new one, not only did he escape, but he kidnapped your sister to boot. Anyone with a shred of testosterone in them would not rest until they're stomping on Irenicus' face. All these people who say, "Well, maybe he got more utility out of torturing me than I lost from being tortured. I'd rather go and explore the world", cannot have working genitals.

Anon12/23/25, 22:26No.3896565

You forgot to mention that it's RTwP dogshit

Anon12/23/25, 23:19No.3896587

Previous thread >>/v/729153543

Anon12/24/25, 08:36No.3896745

>story fall flat for me Found the problem, it's you.

Anon12/24/25, 09:59No.3896768

stupid kids these days

Anon12/24/25, 10:04No.3896773

BG2 is a pretty straightforward story. I think you meant to play Neverwinter Nights.

Anon12/24/25, 10:39No.3896793

This sounds like you only played the started dungeon.

Anon12/24/25, 16:37No.3896922

Correct. BG1 is better because for most of the game you're free to explore and do whatever you like. BG2 feels too much like a theme park.

Anon12/24/25, 17:33No.3896944

I liked it, which means your taste is shit.

Anon12/25/25, 14:14No.3897410

BG1 is more open-ended about who you are and what you can do, and there is significantly less focus on party member stories since they were all treated as throwaway companions, like from actual D&D. BG2 is almost an entirely different game, desu, because the ending story from BG1 is now amped up and the PC is much more important. The NPC's have much deeper stories, some as a consequence of having been with the PC so long, so they should be more than a body and stat sheet and have some actual character now. If you're playing BG2 first, you're just doing it wrong and you should have known better from the simple fact that its a sequel to another game. Crying about not knowing the personal relationships between characters is on you, not the game.

Anon12/25/25, 14:49No.3897421

woah, almost as if bioware can't make good games.The only even slightly good IE game is IWD2 btw

Anon12/26/25, 12:33No.3897828

congratulations your opinions are shit

Anon12/26/25, 14:01No.3897849

tltr you are a niggerfaggot

Anon12/26/25, 18:21No.3897934

Troika were always the outliers. Most people play RPGs to kill things and be big heroes.

Anon12/28/25, 10:04No.3898909

Who was the logo meant to represent exactly? I know TOB and BG1 was the symbol of Bhaal.

Anon12/29/25, 00:20No.3899302

You're speaking to a bunch of oldfarts who need to cling to their youth being GOAT or their whole barely-managed life crashes and burns. They'll never admit their shallow and crungy RTwPslop plot-on-rails gayme wasn't even that popular when it came out.

Anon12/29/25, 03:03No.3899378

It's kind of funny how much better the npc companions lives would be if they never got involved with PC in BG1, since they forced a canon party for BG2. Jaheira wold be bossing around Khalid and doing her harper thing, Dynaheir would do whatever she does with her big dumb bodyguard following her around from town to town. Imoen wouldn't have been fingered and mindfucked, and could live out a dull life in Candlekeep, probably getting her shit together and some point and settling down to some minor job for library or something, maybe a wench at the inn.

Anon12/29/25, 12:52No.3899559

Tbh a bunch of the joinable NPCs had it coming regardless. >Xzar and Montaron Working for the Zentharim they would eventually mess up and get killed for their troubles or run into the harpers and get the same fate >Edwin Overlty ambitious red wizards never end well anyway >Coran He would have gotten himself killed either by wyverns or by that mage he cucked >Safana Not good enough to survive her own schemes. Wouldn't have died of old age. >Tiax No need to ellaborate >Ajantis Accidentally killed >Faldorn Had it comingOthers were better after meeting the bhaalspawn: >Garrick Silke would have eventually killed him. >Yeslick Owes his freedom and his life to the MC >Kivan Avenged his lover by joining the party >Branwen Who knows how long she would have stood petrified? >Viconia She'd be dead twice >Quayle Got saved by the MC >Eldoth Would have never managed to follow trough with his plan >Xan Dead had the MC not saved himAnd others are somewhere in the middle >Jaheira Traded a gimpy husband who she bossed around from a literal son of a god. Shame about Khalid, he didn't have it coming. >Minsc Wouldn't have been able to save Dynaheir. Would be directionles and probably get himself killed if on his own. Dynaheir got saved but then got killed, so it evens out. >Alora She would have been caught eventually >Shar-Teel Got to solve her daddy issues by killing her own father, so perhaps a win >Skie Traded a boring yet comfy life for adventure, but she was unprepared for it

Anon12/29/25, 13:23No.3899564

Murderhobo is not roleplaying. Try actually playing the game instead of sperging out immediately and killing NPC's and then acting surprised that the game falls apart. I know zoomers have a horrible attention span, but Jesus Christ dude.

Anon12/30/25, 10:13No.3900187

I never even considered leaving Khalid behind and just taking Jaheira. They're married, they come as a set.

Anon12/30/25, 13:28No.3900259

BG3 mogs 1 and 2.

Anon01/01/26, 23:52No.3902052

>After being told it's greatest game over Should've checked RPG Codex first

Anon01/02/26, 08:03No.3902331

Is there any other game with the mage rock paper scissor buff and dispel shit that bg2 has? It's honestly my favorite part of the game and the pathfinder games have everything but that, magic feels pretty weak in those in comparison.

Anon01/02/26, 13:29No.3902472

This reads less like a critique of BG2 and more like admitting you didn’t engage with the game on its own terms.Saying BG2 has “no roleplay” is just false. Roleplay isn’t delivered through constant quest branching, it’s expressed through alignment, reputation, faction reactions, class strongholds, companion arcs, and long-term consequences. If your definition of roleplay is “every NPC must let me do whatever I want,” then yes, BG2 won’t indulge that.The Cowled Wizards example doesn’t prove superficiality, it proves the game allows failure and morally bad outcomes without hand-holding you with bespoke cutscenes. Not every bad choice exists to be rewarded.Complaining that you can’t instantly kill or dismiss Imoen misses the point entirely. BG2 is a character-driven RPG with narrative continuity from BG1, not a sandbox murder simulator. Skipping that context and then blaming the game is on the player, not the design.Calling Irenicus “dumb” while missing that the plot is about being outmatched by structural power, not a cartoon chessmaster, is a shallow read. The game doesn’t “force you to fail” so much as it refuses to pretend you’re the center of the universe from minute one.Finally, “90% dungeon crawler combatslop” is what you get if you ignore companion quests, strongholds, banters, and side arcs. That’s not a flaw in the game, it’s a refusal to engage with it.Disliking BG2 is fine. Claiming it lacks roleplay just signals unfamiliarity with what it actually offers.

Anon01/02/26, 18:41No.3902665

Anyone on 4chan who attacks acclaimed games but doesnt name better RPGs is a baiting faggot or a low iq pseud, either case list your favorite rpgs nigger

Anon01/02/26, 19:53No.3902730

>BG2 sucks because the cowled wizards are not your friend. Okay.

Anon01/03/26, 02:21No.3903002

OP got filtered by the first dungeon and starting area . Instead of learning how to play he decided to blogpost on /vr/ as if he was an expert on BG2

Anon01/03/26, 03:25No.3903057

>I'm not the seething OP >I just happened to start arguing with the people shitting on OP at the same time OP mysteriously vanished What did he mean by that?

Anon01/03/26, 03:35No.3903063

OP might as well go on /lit/ and shit on Moby Dick or Blood Meridian, while admitting he didn't get past chapter oneInsane strat

Anon01/03/26, 03:38No.3903067

Still waiting for a single counterargument from retarded mouth breathing biowareslop fans. So far it's not looking really good

Anon01/03/26, 05:24No.3903112

I can tell if a game is bad after 1 minute of gameplay and an examination of the box art. Do you really need to eat shit to know it's shit?

Anon01/03/26, 05:42No.3903119

>install Starcraft and Brood war >play for 30 minutes in the campaign >play online for 30 minutes >get raped online and offline yep it sucks. any questions?

Anon01/03/26, 06:36No.3903147

not sure why but reminds me of a friend who said he hated sex. I asked him why, he said he went with a prostitute once and it was terrible so he decided never to do it againlmao

Anon01/03/26, 20:19No.3903426

Durlag's Tower vs Watcher's Keep, which is the bigger piece of AIDSridden SHIT?

Anon01/03/26, 21:24No.3903455

Baldur Gate 2 is extremely outdated and overrated, nobody that thinks this game is great has good taste, not a single one. Game was on life support until the third one got blown up in popularity, thats how irrelevant it was and how poorly it aged, and the expansion is even worse somehow, go figure, Bioware is for teenagers, when you grow up and gain gaming experience you realize their games are shallow mess.

Anon01/04/26, 01:16No.3903559

It always annoys me how you can't refuse to go to Gaelan Bayle's house. No matter what options you pick, you are forced to follow him. If you go through the effort of trying to refuse, you eventually get a dialogue option that sounds like he is finally going to fuck off and let you leave, only for it to loop back around and trap you until you agree to go with him.

Anon01/04/26, 02:19No.3903583

>>Game assumes that I care about their NPCs and focuses it's story around them rather than player character I was going to reply seriously until I read this. The game is ENTIRELY focused on the protag. You reek of a retarded monkey that played the tutorial dungeon and then your ADHD kicked in and you went to /v/ and /vrpg/ to attentionwhore.

Anon01/04/26, 22:17No.3903992

So planetars just trivialize every non boss SoA encounter? I get why people do no reload runs now

Anon01/05/26, 12:05No.3904245

lmao because New Vegas is so open ended in it's quest structure. get fucked you tourist.

Anon01/06/26, 16:52No.3904838

Just finished bg2, had a good time but i heard that the expansion is more combat-focused with not much story or exploration. Should i skip it and go to bg3 immediately?

Anon01/07/26, 19:14No.3905498

I stopped somewhere in the Underark after either encountering or dealing with the dragon. I was thoroughly bored throughout the game, and when I wasn't I found it grating to get through. I don't understand why people tout it as the greatest RPG ever made. It was like reading a subpar fantasy book with mandatory breaks in-between the lukewarm writing for some mind-numbing battles.

Anon01/11/26, 15:08No.3907579

Instead of adding new faggy characters, why didn't Beamdog actually improved party interaction in the first game?

Anon01/11/26, 16:10No.3907592

When people cheered for the announcement of BG3, they cheered for a Divinity Original Sin 3, not a Baldur's Gate 3.

Anon01/11/26, 17:42No.3907627

>I don't care what's the lore if the game itself didn't make the effort to develop connection and just wrote "she's ur sister you must love" in her backstory You know the game is a direct sequel to the first game, right?

Anon01/16/26, 14:27No.3910584

The choice to murder everything you see is fully supported, anon. You can literally kill every single person on the map. The guards can be called and you can exterminate them too if you're powerful enough.There are no other games which allow you to just completely kill everyone.

Anon01/17/26, 05:37No.3911041

Copypasting my message from other thread, hoping for help.I'm playing it for the first time now. I'm currently in act 2 - finished exploring Atkhatla, De'Arnise Hold, Umar Hills and Windspear Hills. I'm going to Trademeet and thinking about adding Rasaad to the team. Here's the thing. I've hit 1,250,000 experience which is the cap for newly recruited companions. Everything afterwards will be vastly underleveled. I'd like to avoid that.How viable is Rasaad (or monk in general) from level 13 onward?Will I suffer a lot without Thief in the party? I don't care much about backstabbing and setting traps. In theory I can bash chests and open them with Knock spell. Traps can be activated with summons. Still, I don't know how common are repeatable traps and unbashable locks.My team is Dwarven Defender, Keldorn, Minsc, Valygar, Yoshimo and Aerie.

Anon01/17/26, 07:47No.3911068

You'll find that happens a lot. For some reason people really struggle making distinctions between shit they enjoyed growing up and shit that actually is objectively good.BG1 and 2 are really mediocre at best. Fallout 1 and 2 are even worse and I'd call them outright bad. Arcanum is just okay. Planescape has absolutely dogshit gameplay, and a decent story. Most old CRPGs were really bad. BG3 mogs them hard, despite having an atrocious set of characters and a mediocre story, purely because of the gameplay. If you want a kino old CRPG, play Jagged Alliance 2, even if it's not entirely traditional.It's just one of those things. You have to take anything people say about old games in particular with a massive grain of salt, and I say this as someone who grew up playing these games. I played the shit out of Quest For Glory 5 and loved it, but you don't see me going around praising it like it was amazing, because it objectively wasn't.

Anon01/17/26, 12:10No.3911119

The entire game feels like a chore and tedium, but why is the combat in this game so bad? Especially the mage fights? I managed to finish IWD and HoF TWICE with solo Shapeshifter and Sorcerer, but I keep dropping the game because most encounters with spellcasters are some of the most obtuse or tedious I've encountered in a game. They can cast several buffs at the same time AND it's not uncommon to have them be resistant or outright immune to spells designed specifically to breach their defenses/dispel them. If they don't eventually kill me/my party, it just turns into a drag where neither of us can really harm each other any longer. How do you overcome this and why did I not encounter the same bullshit in IWD?

Anon01/17/26, 13:11No.3911137

Three things.First, this is insincere bait.Second, its a hard-sequel to BG1. The majority of what you mentioned wouldn't even occur to you if you played the 1st one and were invested in the characters like you should have been.Third even though BG2 is a great game, your right about it not having a lot of roleplay decisions with consequences. There's a few minor ones and one major one that I can remember, but that's about it. At the time it was a revolutionary game, but this board does overblow it significantly, its probably not even in the top 10 cRPG's on the market right now, but it still goes in the hall of fame for being so far ahead of its time at the turn of the millenia.

Anon01/18/26, 06:16No.3911589

It never was. Deus Ex, which came out the same year, easily beats it in terms of player agency.

Anon01/19/26, 07:36No.3912078

Based destroyer of idols. Way too much BG2 dicksucking is just people trying to fit in, rather than actual enjoyment of the game.

Anon01/19/26, 19:36No.3912244

>"Bleak. Colorless. Dead. Boring, boring, boring!" we all say in unison. Seriously, why does the game feel so shallow despite their attempts to compensate with so many over-the-top set pieces?

Anon01/20/26, 00:40No.3912354

>After being told it's greatest game over and over again I finally decided to give it a shot. Glad you tried it and agreed that it is the greatest rpg of all time.

Anon01/21/26, 04:56No.3913092

It's similar to Morrowind in that, if you're mature enough to tolerate archaic gameplay, it's one of the best games ever made. If you're a zoomgroid with ADHD, yeah, BG2 is going to give you a panic attack or something. You're to stupid and your attention span is too short. It'd be like expecting an 8-year-old to enjoy fishing. Your brain is just too underdeveloped and weak.

Anon01/27/26, 15:49No.3916362

didnt you make the same thread like 2 years ago?"/vrpg/ told me its good but it actually sucks!!111"

Anon01/28/26, 05:35No.3916853

I didn't like the story and characters that much either, but I was expecting something that was more in-between IWD and Torment (I guess it technically is because it has 'official' named party members (idk how else to put it)). That said it;s still god tier for the gameplay in terms of the amount of class choices and epic battles you have.