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Anonymous09/22/25, 19:59No.3848585
Are arpgs the sub-genre that developed character building the most?
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Anon09/22/25, 20:09No.3848591
Are you afraid of making a declarative statement?
Why?
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Anon09/22/25, 20:11No.3848594
Literally just FF10’s sphere grid. A fucking JRPG.
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Anon09/22/25, 20:12No.3848595
>developed character building
Having tons of filler +1% shit isn't character building, it's padding.
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Anon09/23/25, 02:29No.3848723
poe? sure
arpgs? nah
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Anon09/23/25, 05:21No.3848778
This. I'd say Pathfinder and D&D 3.5 have decent character builds. If you play on the hardest difficulties you'll see a lot of similarities in what builds take to survive, but you can do a lot of different shit with races, classes, feats, spells and sub-classes. Even more so with mythic paths in something like WOTR or epic levels in NWN.
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Anon09/23/25, 05:27No.3848780
Having a bunch of pointless bloat does not a good character build make.
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Anon09/23/25, 08:21No.3848810
>choose between a gazillion different powerups that are all the fucking same except like 10 of them are 2% better during this patch according to calculations so don't be a pleb retard and follow the reddit build guide.
Woah
Such depth
My meager brain cannot comprehend the depths at which those RPGs go to offer customization options
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Anon09/23/25, 08:27No.3848813
PoE, and other ARPGs, legitimately have a lot of build options, but, they aren't really just builds in the sense of character development. They are builds in that you have to farm for the gear to complete them for inordinate amounts of time. That shit really ain't "RPG" at that level, it's gamba and trading simulation.
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Anon09/23/25, 10:58No.3848856
Anyone has interesting link about arpg gamedev? Loot tables and drops, how to design stats and abilities, balance, etc?
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Anon09/23/25, 19:37No.3849013
It's not really about developing the genre, because the genre more or less got streamlined to appeal to as many people as possible, so games that truly delve into that kind of thing are fairly rare because its more complication for casual players. My dad is pretty casual and usually his complaint is games being too complicated, like he doesn't want to spend a huge amount of time learning how to play or build characters or whatever, he just likes things more straightforward and less "cluttered".
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Anon09/24/25, 00:15No.3849110
Anybody have a good theory build for a Diablo 2 Resurrected character they haven't seen yet? I want to try something new. I'll look to try something myself but I'm wondering if anybody out there has a build idea. I know the game is so old and has been done over and over so it's not likely but sometimes theory crafting is fun.
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Anon09/24/25, 02:57No.3849179
No, because ultimately all the choices boil down to different ways to kill shit in different ways. The best RPG’s provide you different answers to a a problem
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Anon09/24/25, 18:32No.3849489
Nioh 2 is the best diablo-like
just leaving this here
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Anon09/24/25, 21:28No.3849540
I like ARPGs when the number bloat is stripped back and the action is either more involved or less involved than standaerd games. For example, I love ToME4 and FFO: Stranger of Paradise, they both have ARPG style loot, lots of classes, and skill trees, but there's not as many useless "+2% fire damage while dual-wielding" skill tree paths and they're either less active (ToME is turn based) or more active (Stranger of Paradise has more involved combat). I can't stand regular ARPGs like Grim Dawn and Diablo.
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Anon09/26/25, 16:53No.3850387
the lowest form of level up perks is like this, just +3 attack speed type shit, very uninteresting.
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Anon10/02/25, 22:34No.3853062
PoE tree is textbook example of fake depth. It's ridiculously massive but in fact there's only a few interesting keystones with everything else being +1% to base stat. Most of the "theorycraft" is settling on what stats you want and assigning their increases costs based on distance like you're some fucked up servitor tasked with doing pathfinding algorithms.
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Anon10/02/25, 23:11No.3853081
It's kinda funny how much FF7 and FFX influenced PoE, considering most of its playerbase probably aren't into jRPGs.
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Anon10/09/25, 19:00No.3856541
this is truly a genre for bugmen.
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Anon10/09/25, 20:11No.3856574
>arpgs
not rpgs
>but muh sub-genre
no such thing
>but but...
what is an rpg without an a then?
that's right, it's an actual rpg