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Anonymous09/21/25, 16:38No.3847725Tactics Ogre
I got to chapter 4 in reborn but honestly I really fucking hate the gameplay. Too linear, slow, cheesy in which you just aim to throw as much of your units to fucking kill the boss ASAP, no real sense of progression because class skills are locked to classes and you don't really get any neat classes.
Is the gameplay any better in SNES or PSP? I had a long break before finishing off Chapter 3 so I don't mind replaying the game again but I want something a lot faster and snappier and jesus fuck I'm getting annoyed at Reborn level cap and holy shit I have to wait for every unit to move and playing the waiting game to come to me is so fucking boring.
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Anon09/21/25, 16:43No.3847728
Also I don't know I was rewatching the SNES scene vs Reborn scene on Vyce's death and I'm not a big fan of them adding that Vyce calls for Denim. SNES never mentions it. SNES voice acting sounded way more raw too.
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Anon09/21/25, 16:49No.3847729
Many of these older SRPGs, like Tactics Ogre and FFT, suffer from being extremely slow and poorly paced, often with damage sponge enemies as well.Unicorn Overlord, Midnight Suns, Fire Emblem, Fallout Tactics, Valkyria Chronicles 1&4, Mechanicus might be more your thing.
Or Jeanne d'Arc if you want something similar to FFT and Tactics Ogre but a little quicker.
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Anon09/21/25, 16:56No.3847731
SNES, PSP Reborn are all mechanically different. But the missions are all the same, routing enemies. And slow because you can't skip animations. With that said I think Reborn plays the best
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Anon09/21/25, 18:01No.3847754
The issue with TO is its maps. While beautiful, it just takes so many turns of doing literally nothing until you can start interacting with enemy units.
It's especially hard for melee units that get stuck one behind the other, not being able to just move past even their own allies to get an attack in.
I've only played the PSP version and besides that and undead enemies being a slog I didn't find the gameplay that bad. The AI moves fast enough I guess and the menus were snappy.
The real issue PSP had was with unit planning and building because holy shit what were they thinking with that kind of skill grind and material grind for crafting?
I immediately just started making my own version of the game because it was pretty obvious I was going to end up with a team full of Ninjas with shortbows and Archers otherwise to protect my sanity.
I think it's pretty fun if you remove most of the useless fluff that bogs the PSP version down, but if we are comparing vanilla then Reborn is more streamlined for the casual gamer.
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Anon09/21/25, 18:05No.3847756
The TO battle pacing issue would be fine if the game was shorter, had faster progression and fewer filler battles. Big battles are fine but they have to feel impactful.
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Anon09/22/25, 02:29No.3848029
I prefer SNES/PSX
PSP is almost identical to reborn with less QoL and even more obnoxious class leveling system, although you no longer have the hard 4 skill slot limit.
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Anon09/22/25, 10:34No.3848357
all i know is this shit is too fucking slow holy fuck. i wish I could AI through the rest of the game but you can't even make your units OP as fuck so you're stuck doing it normally unless you want a dead crew
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Anon09/22/25, 16:23No.3848475
op here why are you people so fucking autistic
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Anon09/22/25, 20:56No.3848616
I played the Advance versions before I got into the original I think those were pretty fast paced and had a variety of fun side quests.
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Anon09/24/25, 22:06No.3849556
Had the same thoughts after picking this up waiting for FFT
For better or worse, I zoomed zoomed to playing Triangle Strategy instead and it's been 10x more enjoyable while feeling like it's scratching the same itch
...besides build autism. Because the game is on rails as you can get. But honestly having 30+ generics that all have equipment and skill slots you can (and should) modify wasn't worth the squeeze for me even if it's clear TO is by far more ambitious, mature, and probably better designed.
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Anon09/25/25, 02:12No.3849623
Tactics Ogre is a game where I like nearly everything about it aside from its gameplay. The PSP version is okay in the sense that you can just use Archers to overpower everything. I don't have any experience with Rebirth but from the sounds of it, it doesn't sound much better. There's a fan mod called One Vision based off the PSP version which sounds interesting as it aims to make all classes useful but I have not played it. SNES/PSone might be the route to go.
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Anon09/26/25, 14:02No.3850292
.. in One vision mod:I'm at the start of Chapter 2. What sort of skillsets i should be having on my characters?Also, is this the point where i should get myself a Beastmaster? I'm guessing i'm going to need it later in Phorampa?
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Anon09/28/25, 08:14No.3851149
Literally every fight is the same or rather there are three fights:
>vanquish all (easy)
>vanquish overleveled leader (medium)
>vanquish all overleveled units and watch the chasm, but dont use ingame mechanics for necessary upgrades (hard or rather tedious)
That's all.
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Anon09/28/25, 08:22No.3851153
I played all the older games that are like tor/fft including the two aforementioned.
Gungir, hoshi, vanguard aso..
Are there recent games that are similar enough? Lost Eidolons veil maybe or king Arthur trpg?
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Anon10/01/25, 16:08No.3852560
What finally broke me was making a character, forgot the class, but like a Mage Knight mix. And it had a move like confuse or something. I was like, alright, cool, I can use my brain a bit. This will be fun. Then I notice it shows chance of success for the spell. It was literally like 1%. So 1 out of 100 it lands. Fuck that shit.
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Anon10/05/25, 15:12No.3854255
On the PSX version of TO, how do you change classes?
I have a bunch of base warriors/amazons at lvl 5 but who have +60 dmg but can't change classes.
I keep reading about class marks but none of the stores sell them. I assume there are stat requirements but I can't find any guides on whether classes have stat requirements.
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Anon10/06/25, 01:19No.3854506
It's really frustrating how I'm playing the PS1 version of Tactics Ogre but all the guides I find for TO are for Reborn. So a bunch of gameplay mechanics are completely different.
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Anon10/06/25, 14:12No.3854771
How do the recruiting skills work in One vision mod?
So if i get a Beast tamer, i can train the skills to recruit beasts and dragons. If i change the class, can he learn the other recruiting skills? Can i put pretty much all of them to one character?
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Anon10/06/25, 18:09No.3854886
I want to like TO but I'm not really a fan of any of the game systems they have in play for any version. The closest one that resonates with me is LUCT but I dislike the fact that levels are tied to the entire class, not units, and level scaling makes it show no mercy towards your recently level 1 classchanged heroes
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Anon10/07/25, 21:16No.3855564
Still one of my favorite characters in all of gaming.
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Anon10/08/25, 14:12No.3855856
>LUCT
SNES/PSX/Saturn
>Wheel of Fortune/Unmei no Wa
The PSP remake. However the west decided for whatever reason to use the original subtitle.
>Reborn
The modern remake.
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Anon10/12/25, 03:34No.3857564
>kill this beastmaster's griffin
>everyone on my entire team gets debuffed to deal shit damage
>start immediately getting raped
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Anon10/12/25, 06:01No.3857590
Been trying the various versions, just to finally install Reborn again and notice it had voice acting! Makes it instantly the best version.
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Anon10/16/25, 21:01No.3859816
One Vision Bros, what weapon did you give Denam?
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Anon10/16/25, 21:38No.3859840
I remember dropping the psp version when I saw a valkyrie (rune fencer) use a summon, thinking to myself "cool, gonna recruit her", then she magically forgot all the cool shit she knew when I recruited her, because NOPE you gotta go through 20 tedious floors of a shitty dungeon to get summons because reasons, fuck youBest version of TO is the chronicle valeria hack for the SNES game which sadly remains untranslated