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Anonymous08/30/25, 01:33No.3835522Do you prefer the original Baldur's Gate trilogy (BG1, BG2, TOB) or BG3?
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Anon08/30/25, 01:34No.3835523
No.
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Anon08/30/25, 01:43No.3835525
RTwP is filth
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Anon08/30/25, 01:58No.3835530
Obviously the original.
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Anon08/30/25, 02:00No.3835531
>Bioware games
Truly shit and introduced toxic design trends that have plagued RPGs since.
>BG3
Good, very interactive games, emphasizes tactics in combat and true roleplaying. Almost a return to pre-Bioslop design.
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Anon08/30/25, 02:22No.3835543
3
hate rtwp
love tb
simple as
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Anon08/30/25, 03:29No.3835575
Baldur's Gate III. I played I and II the summer before Baldur's Gate III, and I was honestly unimpressed. I honestly hated I and I was glad when it ended, and II while better, still wasn't that fun to me. I'm not baiting when I say that I honestly preferred Dragon Age Origins, Pathfinder Kingmaker, and Pathfinder WoTR.
So to answer your question, I prefer III to I and II
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Anon08/30/25, 04:04No.3835586
BG1 > BG2 > DOS2 > TOB > DOS1 > Divine Divinity > BG3
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Anon08/30/25, 04:30No.3835594
They are not similar. There is no comparison possible between them. BG3 only has the brand name / logo. It's a completely and profoundly different experience.
Also ToB was an expansion of BG2, so there was no "trilogy", there was just BG1 and its expansions, and BG2 and its expansions.
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Anon08/30/25, 04:57No.3835603
haven't played dos3 so definitely bg1 & 2
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Anon08/30/25, 05:29No.3835616
3, but mainly because I didn't have a PC to game when it released. Didn't start PC gaming until NWN in 2002. I'd probably have nostalgia and like BG1 better if I played it when it released.
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Anon08/30/25, 07:45No.3835652
Original BGs are far, far better. Turn based is less immersive AND way easier, why would you prefer that? Casuals get off my board.Just look at difficulty mods for each game, SCS just tweaks the AI but doesn't inflate any stats at all - this provides sufficient challenge. BG3 mods on the other hand have to make everything do double damage and have triple the hp to provide an equivalent challenge but it doesn't end up making it much more fun.
But hey at least you can play BG3 one handed wink wink, no wonder some people here prefer it. They don't actually like good gameplay.
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Anon08/30/25, 10:46No.3835702
I liked 3 overall. I couldn't get into 1 and 2, a result of my age as well as the games. Also I hate RTwP.
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Anon08/30/25, 13:51No.3835757
BG 1/2 are good despite being RTWP, not because of it
BG3 is bad despite being turn based, not because of it
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Anon08/30/25, 17:50No.3835885
Original.
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Anon08/30/25, 18:08No.3835900
bg2 is the best game imo because it starts you out at iirc level 7, and so for instance a fighter isn't just a simple kit swing sword and miss, you actually have a few more options, more buttans to press like on a wizard. bg3 is fun but i got to the 3rd act and was 1 level away from max level, and had really good gear, so i lost interest and never beat it. i like how rpgs are moving to turn based now altho i always like rtwp back in the day.
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Anon08/30/25, 18:30No.3835908
the originals have a special place in my heart
they got me into crpgs after watching this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjWWuUDtSaE
I was already pretty attracted to dnd but I never played it irl. so having heard bg1 and 2 were like dnd with a cpu dungeonmaster was enough for me to try it out, not expecting much since the graphics were so dated (I began with the enhanced editions)
ended up loving it and being an absolute crpg fan ever since
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Anon08/30/25, 18:48No.3835917
the original.
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Anon08/30/25, 18:53No.3835918
>EET
>SCS
>ToF
>Infinity UI++
>Spell Revision
>Tweaks Anthology
>Imoen Romance Mod
yep, it's gaming time.
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Anon08/30/25, 19:21No.3835933
I also use custom modified Morpheus powergaming script. Usually by the time i got to ToB prebuffing was killing me but now i press one hotkey and all long lasting buffs i always prebuffed every rest are auto cast for me while i manually cast all specific and short buffs myself when needed. It strikes balance and made late SoA and ToB fun to play again.
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Anon08/30/25, 20:05No.3835954
for everyone who played SCS to death and want to experience another challenging but different mod theres tactics remix https://www.morpheus-mart.com/tactics-remix
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Anon08/30/25, 20:27No.3835962
I think BG1/2 will always be special to me, but honestly the game doesn't really do much in the role play side of things, there's just things that are there to take and you can sometimes decide between the nice way and the mean way. You can't even decide to turn down quests. It's less a DnD sim and more a DnD combat sim. BG2 goes harder on a narrative focus instead of just wandering around the woods like the first one, but that never really changes (there's just more dialogue). If anything I think it kind of detracts from its charm and is only balanced out by Irenicus having a great voice and therefor being a great villain
BG3 actually attempting to handle the out of combat side of things in a way many other RPGs avoid goes a long way for me. I also prefer turn based and less of that diablo goblin hoard shit, but really that's a secondary concern. The only thing that really tarnished BG3 a little to me is some choices they made in its direction, but I don't think judging a game by comparing it to one that never existed is particularly fair.
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Anon08/30/25, 20:36No.3835966
Thoughts on this change to Aerie hair?
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Anon08/31/25, 00:01No.3836059
I grew up on 1 and 2 but I still prefer 3. The turn based combat is just far superior to RTwP. Also I feel that Larian understands D&D and what it's mean to be about much more than Bioware ever did. The ability to throw things, use environmental damage, stealth mechanics etc. It's the type of things you used to only see in PnP campaigns.
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Anon08/31/25, 00:07No.3836063
Is the SCS mod that much of an improvement over vanilla BG1 and BG2? I played these games a long time ago but I want to do another playthrough. I don't want to change it too much, maybe just improve the AI.
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Anon08/31/25, 01:40No.3836091
Playing bg2 for the first time.
Why does the game dump multiple time sensitive quests at the same time in chapter 2?
Is this supposed to deter rest-scumming, because having my party constantly nag is obnoxious.
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Anon08/31/25, 06:37No.3836213
>not playing 20+ years ago
you newfags will never get BG1 and BG2
>muh real time combat hard and BAD
checks out
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Anon08/31/25, 09:03No.3836262
BG2 remains my favorite, but I did enjoy BG3 a lot more than I initially expected.
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Anon09/01/25, 11:01No.3836970
This is like asking: Do you enjoy loving, satisfying sex with your wife or do you want to get fucked in the ass by some aids ridden freak. You know which option Reddit will prefer.
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Anon09/01/25, 12:04No.3836989
Honestly i can´t say. Back when i was young i preferred JRPGs over WRPGs. I can play games like CT or Valkyrie profile without feeling they are dated in the slightest but i feel i´m overly critical or biased towards old WRPGs (anything before Dragon Age Origins)Also i did like BG3 but i think i probably like the DoS and Pathfinder games more. But yeah, BG3 was pretty good.
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Anon09/01/25, 13:20No.3837045
Last time i argued with anti-RTWP poster he exposed himself he didnt even know you can give orders during pause. Since then i ignore those posts cause its guaranteed its larian DOS3 fanoboy who never played or cared about original BG games.
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Anon09/01/25, 13:27No.3837052
Bg1 and 2 are masterpieces, bg3 is pure shit, gamers are mentally ill to like that piece of crap
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Anon09/01/25, 13:31No.3837058
I'm sorry but bg1 and 2 have more in common with the hero unit missions of red alert and age of empires than anything resembling a role-playing game, tabletop or video
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Anon09/01/25, 13:52No.3837081
the original games were better imo.BG3 peaks in act 2 and feels like its running on fumes when you finally get to the city. BG1 opens up even more so when you get to the titular city.the vibe of BG3 is silly. its like its afraid to take itself seriously and really get stuck into the setting. its wears thin. you can't be epic and silly at the same time. whereas BG1 wears its heart on it sleeve from day 1. grandiose speeches and thrilling showdowns from the get go. sure theres some comic relief but its better to have comic relief than constant comedythe setting of BG3 feels very generic until you get to the city. BG1 is very much set in the sword coast, famous locations and factions. BG3 could be anywhere.alignment/classes/stats/itemization all feel meaningless in BG3. you can change to anything you like at any time and most "builds" simply revolve around cheesing some mechanic.its still a good game but i don't think it holds up to the rest of the series. its the fallout 3/4 of baldurs gate games
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Anon09/03/25, 02:16No.3838092
I enjoyed the OG trilogy. A little clunky by modern standards but retains soul and a lot of good design.
Wouldn't waste my time playing BG3 even if it was free. Zoomer RPG fans have the worst taste imaginable.
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Anon09/03/25, 02:54No.3838114
I prefer Icewind Dale, BG as a whole has a really terrible habit of just grabbing you by the wrist and dragging you off in a random direction when you're already doing something.
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Anon09/03/25, 04:41No.3838137
I liked the new stuff in BG3 but every returning character, lore or thing was a fucking terrible downgrade.
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Anon09/03/25, 13:14No.3838251
bg1&2 are the greatest games ever made. currently doing an scs no reload run
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Anon09/03/25, 19:42No.3838531
Real-time RPG with pause is one of the worst combat systems ever made, probably worse than ATB
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Anon09/03/25, 22:10No.3838611
I prefer Baldur's Gate 3 over them.
I played them long time ago and i liked them, played them again 8 years ago and i found them to be just ok, my tastes have developed a lot in the last 10 years, i used to like games for their story, now after i played a lot of different games and i read books and watched a lot of films and anime i started liking games for their game design much more. Even a game like Dragon Age and The Witcher which i used to love a lot i find it hard to replay them today, i just find their writing quality much inferior to what i can get somewhere else, and i always find myself replaying games with good and fun game design, when i want to play games i want to enjoy playing them.
Baldur's Gate 3 is one of the best simulation for DND ever made, it has strong game design, the gameplay is very dense, so much interactivity and options for problem solving and the level design is absolutely top notch, the world is designed in interconnected levels and the map is dense with verticality and content, the encounter design is sublime and the production values are something i always wanted from a CRPG, all these years and finally one has been made that doesnt shit the bed or simplify its mechanics like Bethesda and bioware did, it stays true to the roots of the genre.Baldur's Gate 2 is still a solid game to play, but 1 and the Throne of Bhaal aged so poorly, 1 is outdated in most ways because 2 improved on it and icewind dale is improved as well, and throne of bhaal is one of the most overrated expansions ever.
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Anon09/04/25, 15:24No.3839045
Easily. The original trilogy is a true classic, BG3 is nu-fantasy for the Critical Role audience.
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Anon09/05/25, 02:10No.3839355
>Two anons arguing about dungeon density or something
I never played these games for the dungeon crawling but the gnoll fortress and clearing de'Arnise keep were both my favorite in each respective game but also the point of maximum tolerance for dungeon autism for me.This isn't a stance against dungeon crawling, period, though, I liked it in Temple of Elemental Evil for instance, but I think the IE games are unsuited to it. Just play through any of them in Icewind Dale to see what I mean.
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Anon09/05/25, 03:54No.3839401
Original, RTwP being one reason. BG3 is a great game though, enjoying playing it multiple times.
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Anon09/05/25, 05:09No.3839428
>Reddit's gate
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Anon09/05/25, 05:39No.3839436
BG3 was good but it really shouldn't have been tied to the original games.Next up: Dark Sun crpg by Owlcat or something.
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Anon09/05/25, 22:08No.3839767
Why can't we have epic large scale fights between 2 armies? Oh right because we are being brainwashed to think it's just a "trash" fight and that we should suffer a shittier game system without these cool parts to justify it
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Anon09/05/25, 22:49No.3839788
Startling to see people pretend like these games have deep tactics whether they're RTWP or turn-based. It's an RPG, the only tactic that matters is leveling up, you're literally too stupid to understand this and think you're tactical geniuses for getting to level 11 so you can unlock the Kill My Enemies For Me Thank You spell.
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Anon09/08/25, 20:50No.3841249
BG1+2. BG3 is a terrible game.
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Anon09/10/25, 01:00No.3841952
I dropped both before the end of the first act out of sheer boredom. Forgotten Realms always had this effect on me.
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Anon09/10/25, 08:55No.3842095
Can you kill that drow bitch in Act one, then finish the quest and resurrect her and make her join you?
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Anon09/10/25, 14:31No.3842251
>Dwarf (Duergar)
>Can cast enlarge as a cantrip
>Barbarian of the giant subclass
>Can rage, which enlarges them
>Elixer of collosus
>Same as casting enlarge
That's 3x enlargenings
That should put them from Medium size class into Gargantuan size class
That's bigger than a dragon in theory
The size of a nauteloid
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Anon09/10/25, 22:25No.3842604
I don't like any of them and prefer neverwinter nights
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Anon09/12/25, 02:26No.3843166
Gameplay wise, BG3, easily.
In most other regards except generalized "graphics", the originals. Tone especially is something I didn't really jive with for BG3. It just feels really awkward about where it lies in on the power and importance scales for some reason.
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Anon09/14/25, 16:28No.3844269
Gameplay: I'm leaning BG3. I've grown to prefer TB. And encounter design is really good.
Writing: BG2:SoA is the best (just competent fantasy pulp). BG3 might have the worst main plot I've ever seen.
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I don't want to go on a rant, but I truly LOATHE the writing in BG3. Well, large parts of it. Some of the side stuff is okay.
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Anon09/14/25, 17:24No.3844287
D&D was never good so it doesn't matter
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Anon09/14/25, 18:57No.3844334
BG3 is the only good one
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Anon09/15/25, 22:40No.3844934
I always hated tabletop fags making video games. They suck dick. They are just the absolute worst kind of game. Go paint your figures and get the fuck out of our hobby.
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Anon09/17/25, 08:57No.3845628
BG3 would've been better if it was based around 4e instead, a real tactical ttrpg instead of the half-assed mess 5e was.
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Anon09/20/25, 12:14No.3847128
>bored
>launch bg2
>get reminded how awesome my first playthrough was couple years ago
>now too familiar with the game to enjoy it the same way
Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened
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Anon09/22/25, 00:54No.3847979
Didn't get far in the first two, I'll be honest, I didn't get the appeal. I got far into act of the third one and while i'll say I kind of enjoyed it, it just kind of dragged on for a while, level progression felt like crap, exploring didn't feel great (lots of jumping for some reason), your class didn't really impact the story (I went lock Wyll because I wanted to see how having a patron would change the way I planned around encounters, what sacrifices it would demand, nothing, I guess) I dropped that playthrough when I got my new PC and recently picked it back up again for an evil-ish durge playthrough, couldn't get past the first act, being evil's boring as fuck in this game and my problems with theming were exarcebated when I picked one of the shitty martial classes to focus on because it felt appropriate for the bloodthirsty knife maniac.7/10, I Liked DOS2 a lot more.
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Anon09/26/25, 14:59No.3850326
I only like BG1
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Anon09/27/25, 04:58No.3850625
Siege of Dragonspear was the best one
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Anon09/30/25, 21:00No.3852150
Bg 1:
Tell unit to go somewhere , it gets stuck.
Bg3:
Tell unit to go somewhere , it goes there.
Simple choice.
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Anon09/30/25, 21:07No.3852151
I didn't like the Larianity of BG3. Character progression felt weak and itemization quite unexciting because they wanted the focus to be on le epic water+lightning and exploding barrel shenanigans instead. It's just not what I want from RPGs. Ironically DOS2 felt less Larian-y to me than BG3 because I remember the itemization there feeling more powerful. I enjoyed the characters and the attention to detail in BG3 but I won't be coming back to it the same way I do to BG1 and 2. The final string of fights in Act 3 in particular is ungodly ass.
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Anon10/03/25, 17:09No.3853393
BG1>BG2>BG3
I don't mindlessly hate 3 or whatever but I found the combat too easy and too dull both because of 5E and turn based combat only.
Also the UI, camera and controls fucking suck and the game as a whole feels more tedious to play than the originals.
I also hate the animation delay, but that plagues any modern RPG. It wasn't that noticeable with 2D lowres sprites but it's just weird to see some dude shuffle in place and swing his sword once every 10 seconds.
I also sort of disliked how many fantasy races get dropped on you in the first 5 seconds, I wish most of the characters in the beginning were humans, would've made the fantastical less mundane.
Tbh I didn't like BG2 that much either and I prefer IWD 1&2 over any BG game but still.
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Anon10/05/25, 17:59No.3854326
Shame we don't have a normal thread for Baldurs Gate discussion.I tried looking online about the specifics of unkitted bard's song, does it have a luck bonus or not. Even went through the game manual.The manual says the song gives a luck bonus.However, in the original BG2, the song doesn't grant luck.However, the fix pack adds the luck bonus.I started a bard playthrough. Thank god and the creators of the fix pack.
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Anon10/06/25, 20:33No.3854976
I fucking hate minsc. Of all characters they could have chosen, they chose Jaheira and Minsc. Fuck Bg3
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Anon10/06/25, 20:51No.3854988
I stopped playing after the Keep in bg1. Never played bg3
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Anon10/06/25, 20:58No.3854991
I don't like this style of rpg. Its all cringeworthy 80s 90s nerd shit. Its for people who want to copy lotr and put their own "spin" while having no conception of what made lotr good. Its dumb old nerds who think the best parts of lotr are the fights.
And thats best case scenario. Many rpgs are inspired by some of the real trash of the 80s and 90s and 2000s. The real yucky nerd books that somehow make their entire section if the library/book store smell very gross.
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Anon10/07/25, 19:47No.3855521
bg3 ofc
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Anon10/07/25, 19:50No.3855522
I actually prefer the old goldbox SSI games, but if you ask which one I like better, the original "3" or the new BG3, I go with the original. Too much SJW shit in BG3 (Lose Paladin status for not letting refugees steal a house, sex with bears, gay sex, etc) and the combat is a pale imitation of ToEE.the original SSI Goldbox are still the standard. Best combat, more faithful to the source material, and more options too.
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Anon10/09/25, 17:33No.3856503
BG3 is a simultaneously a Dragon Age game and a Divinity OS game but it is not a BG
I could get into BG3 for the same reason I couldn't get into BG1, 2, or either Pathfinders
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Anon10/09/25, 23:03No.3856642
Baldur's Gate 1/2/3 and Fallout 1/2/3/NV are all good games. Oblivion is shit, though.
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Anon10/10/25, 04:10No.3856718
Core Rules is the only difficulty.
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Anon10/10/25, 07:03No.3856751
Hot take, but BG1>BG3>BG2
BG1 had the best companions, simple as they were. Memorable voice lines, not annoying, not drama queens. The freedom and exploration are top tier and it's the one that feels the most like an adventure.
BG2 feels like the forerunner to Bioware's later design, but in a bad way. Felt very railroaded at times and lacking in focus at other times, even if it's bigger and more developed it feels like there's a surface-layer modern RPG interfering whenever I try to have fun with the classic RPG beneath.
BG3 is a modern rpg 100%, with all the good and bad stuff that entails, but it's overall one of the better ones. Not really "BG" though.
I genuinely hope that the "companion has personal trauma that MC needs to fix and they all want to fuck you" trend dies, but BG3's companions are for the most part above average.
Combat is nothing to write home about because TBS is very slow and dull, but you are able to clear entire areas by breaking encounters, which is great (using spells to lock doors, silence people that call for reinforcements, preparing a trap with throwables or environmental hazards). I think I spent 3 hours on my first playthrough killing stuff in the goblin camp room by room without actually turning the camp hostile until they were all dead just by using the environment and items I had and I can't recall other modern games allowing me to do that so easily or often, classic Fallout is the most similar comparison I can think of, with pickpocketing explosives and so on.
I do find it sad that you have about as many penis options as you do for head models, I wish I could customize appearence freely.
I will always look back fondly at that boat fight with the dark dwarves that I couldn't win straight up, so I just ended up shoving all of them with my gigachad human fighter.
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Anon10/10/25, 09:06No.3856785
BG > BG2 > ToB >>>> Dark Alliance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BG3
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Anon10/10/25, 18:41No.3856973
How good are the stealth mechanics in the first games? I was planning on playing as a Mage / Thief and wanted to know if it was any good.
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Anon10/13/25, 06:46No.3857918
I prefer the superior Enhanced Edition trilogy (Black Pits, Black Pits 2, Siege of Dragonspear)
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Anon10/14/25, 21:21No.3858715
All of this effort arguing and none of you are any closer to the simple realizations that all BG games are bad and you just have preferences for their various presentations which were also objectively bad but that is harder to notice.
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Anon10/15/25, 00:27No.3858790
i am playing EE at the moment and vanilla BG's writing (minus SoD) is so drastically better than anything in BG3 (or SoD) it is fucking ridiculousThe difference between the two is ironically best exemplified by Neera, who was clearly written by a modern writer.The way you encounter her, the way her incident with the red wizards takes all the seriousness out of the situation, it's so stupid.
Like, those guys are vicious slavers and actually fucking dangerous if edwin isnt around.
But the modern writing team obviously cant have that.Gotta add slapstick and marvel quips by "le whacky girl character (she has student loans (tm) btw ;^)"It's fucking awful
BG3 is similar.BG1/2 on the other hand? Fucking perfect. Or at least very high quality in comparison.
The chapter texts alone are better than most of what you get in BG3
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Anon10/15/25, 08:07No.3858944
There were some problematic moments in the older games
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Anon10/15/25, 20:10No.3859302
I would rate Baldur's Gate 1 a score of 4/10
It has some interesting concepts for a Crpg at the time, but it aged poorly, the gameplay is kinda awful, it has only one good dungeon in the entire game but its a pretty good dungeon, the companions are uninteresting and forgettable its like almost zero effort put into them, and visually it looks terrible. I also find the music meh, the story is just average.For Baldur's Gate 2: its irrefutable that its a straight upgrade from 1, much better companions and much better story, but the gameplay and the level design are still kinda bad, the visuals and the music meh nothing to write home about, a clear upgrade in quality, but it shows its age and the DLC makes it worse. 6/10 overallBaldur's Gate 3: Now that is how i imagine a Rpg to be, top tier gameplay since you can interact with a lot of things and gameplay has depth, combat is fun, actual good encounters and boss fights, the writing is a lot better, dialogue is reactive and there is a lot more choices for the player to take and branch out, the visuals are great and the music is fantastic, the level design is on a whole other level, each level is multilayered and feels rewarding to explore, a lot of ways to approach things, interconnect map design, tons of great dungeons, companions are relatable and varied with many different personalities and dilemmas, well written with good performance to boot, a lot of replayabiltiy thanks to differing playstyles and approaches. Overall its a 10/10So the final ranking: BG3 >>> BG2 > BG1
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Anon10/15/25, 20:27No.3859317
I don't like any of the classes in these games or the combat
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Anon10/16/25, 07:34No.3859530
I only like BG1
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Anon10/16/25, 17:15No.3859748
Gameplay is obviously better in bg3 but writing is beyond shit. Also fuck svin and fuck hasbro.bg1 and bg2 had better writing
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Anon10/16/25, 18:17No.3859769
I fucking hate rtwp so much but I hate modern games even more. Turn based takes too much time. Rtwp is just annoying as hell herding cats shit. Tired of the debate between the two. the fans of both are so annoying
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Anon10/16/25, 18:27No.3859771
BG3 is the better. So much better that all future generations will forget there were 2 other games before it.
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Anon10/16/25, 20:30No.3859799
BG2 is the most well-rounded experience you can get in a CRPG. BG3 has better combat + environment interactions, but the writing and story was not superior to BG2. I don't think BG1 is a better product to BG2 in any respect other than perhaps "open world" feel - something I don't think is important in a CRPG.BG2 > BG3 > BG1.
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Anon10/17/25, 05:37No.3859955
I like BG2 for the epic voice acting. Haven't played ToB or BG3.
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Anon10/17/25, 05:47No.3859958
yes.