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Anonymous10/13/25, 20:39No.96746799
Should Space Marines be made more common? These mythical warriors of only 1 million or so total spread thin throughout the Imperium does NOT match up with what we actually see, which is the Astartes showing up in large numbers to even minor conflicts and dying in large numbers as well.
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Anon10/13/25, 20:50No.96746864
>minor conflicts
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Anon10/13/25, 20:50No.96746866
>Should Space Marines be made more common?
No.
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Anon10/13/25, 21:01No.96746926
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Anon10/13/25, 21:03No.96746935
Space Marines look so fucking goofy without their helmets on. How the fuck do people think that tiny ass head poking out of a gigantic body looks cool?
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Anon10/13/25, 21:14No.96746983
It's one per planet bro, what's the problem?
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Anon10/13/25, 21:50No.96747163
>only 1 million or so total
It's worth noting that would only be the case if all the chapters followed the Codex Astartes to the letter, which they definitely don't do. For example, the Black Templars ignore the 1,000 marines limit, and just keep on raising more troops as they continue crusading, likely numbering in the tens or even hundreds of thousands.
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Anon10/13/25, 22:30No.96747389
You want warhammer lore to care about accurate scales? LOL
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Anon10/13/25, 22:36No.96747417
No, because I want their rareness to be a focal point.
I want GW to not do a single space marine release in the entire next edition, and I want the lore to explicitly state that many guardsmen believe the space marines virtually extinct. I want Eldar and Tau to be surprised when they see them.
I want them to feel like the shell of their former selves that they are, I want their brief arrivals to feel like the Archangel Michael pouring his fury upon the earth in 1000 avatars, but I will never get that.
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Anon10/13/25, 23:00No.96747542
They already are. Take every canon chapter and add them together you'll get wayyyyyy more than a million marines. Not to mention since cawl somehow hid entire legions worth of marines underneath mars even the cannon now statea there's around 3 million marines.
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Anon10/13/25, 23:16No.96747628
This is the same setting where Vraks, the purported bloodiest war in imperium history had less than half the casualties of WW2. The writers just fucking suck at scale and don't give enough of a shit to get any better at it so it's best not thought about too hard.
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Anon10/13/25, 23:25No.96747675
>made more common
No. If anything they should be less common.
But also keep in mind model sales and frequency of appearance in gameplay or secondary/fiction isn't representative of their in-universe presence. We see a lot of marines because they look cool and sell, not because there's a lot of them in-universe.
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Anon10/13/25, 23:28No.96747692
You missed the general.
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Anon10/14/25, 01:44No.96748303
There stopped being only 1 million of them after the Primaris Founding. There were about 1 million of them prior to that, now there's at least 2-3 million, perhaps more. Chapters are no longer limited to just 1k active marines thanks to Primaris reinforcements doubling or tripling their numbers, and the Primaris Founding chapters are all bonus marines past the 1 million mark.
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Anon10/14/25, 03:24No.96748725
thats more of a numbers problem which other 40k factions (or just any scif fi franchise) suffers from since writers don't seem to really grasp how even a very small elite force would need to be fuck huge when applied on a galatic scale
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Anon10/14/25, 04:04No.96748920
40k writers should be less afraid of claiming that this war or another one caused hundreds of million casualties or more, especially when dealing with Hives and wars involving multiple planets.
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Anon10/14/25, 04:11No.96748943
Someone has yet to explain me how a chapter (1.000 warriors) can conquer a planet with a population of 10 billion.
I would increase each chapter size to 10.000 marines, 1.000 per company.
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Anon10/14/25, 05:42No.96749305
If you wanted to change 40k to make any sort of sense, then yes.
You shouldn't want that.
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Anon10/14/25, 09:29No.96749937
No.Marine-Spread needs to be dampened, not encouraged. Space Marines need to be consolidated back down into a single comprehensive codex that allows you to play any cannon Space Marine formation. 'Marines+' Armies like Grey Knights and Custodes need to be reduced to single attachable squads or else dropped all together.
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Anon10/14/25, 09:51No.96750001
I dunno ask /hhg/
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Anon10/14/25, 10:16No.96750067
>Should Space Marines be made more common?
No.
Space marines are super elite shock troops directly fired into position by drop pods, their purpose is to turn battles around by capturing key locations or kill certain targets, its the job of the imperial guard to do the more conventional warfare.
In the first place the imperium leaders would never allow another horus heresy situation by removing the marine limit of a chapter.
There is also the problem of logistics and resources, each piece of space marine gear is expensive to manufacture and is therefore treated like a heirloom and passed on, rather is not even mentioning relics and other more obscure technology that cant be replicated anymore.
>but what about primaris
I dont care about dogshit
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Anon10/14/25, 10:20No.96750074
You missed the general little buddy!
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Anon10/14/25, 10:21No.96750079
no, they should have been made extinct with the heresy
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Anon10/14/25, 10:50No.96750167
By focusing on where astartes show up you are ignoring the millions of conflicts where no astartes are involved. This information bias paints them as more common than they are.
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Anon10/14/25, 17:52No.96752778
Don't care gib big booba female space marines
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Anon10/14/25, 17:58No.96752823
Even completely codex compliant chapters have more than 1000 "marines" as the 10th company can be as large as they feel they need (and some chapters have a second 10th company).
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Anon10/15/25, 09:27No.96757468
yes, actual limit should be 1 000 000 000 marines per chapter
retcon 1 000 to be a propaganda or pretend it was never a thing
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Anon10/15/25, 16:20No.96759462
There's defending a local and convenient source of supplies instead of wasting time and resources to ship from more distant locations. There's literally nothing wrong with the premise.
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Anon10/16/25, 11:49No.96765655
The route I would take is reduce their lore capabilities to get closer to the tabletop feeling, and increase chapter numbers to allow more narrative room for losses. A supersoldier rather than a demigod, and 10,000+ a chapter so 10-50 deaths isn't a remarkable loss.
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Anon10/16/25, 16:28No.96767239
100,000 Chapters, each 100,000 strong for a total of 10 billion Space Marines. That way they would still be rare in an Imperium that numbers in the Quintillions without feeling like they are laughably small in number.
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Anon10/16/25, 17:54No.96767792
No. It's already bad enough that Primaris turned post-Heresy Marines into Legiones Lite
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Anon10/16/25, 18:02No.96767843
Should the currency be devalued?
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Anon10/16/25, 22:08No.96769588
Yes because the fact that space marines aren’t legion size makes the imperiums continued survival especially now lie past suspension of disbelief and in you gotta be fucking kidding me lmao territory. Taking GW at face value with the claims they’ve made about the state of the imperium it should’ve died already
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Anon10/16/25, 22:10No.96769607
Big dudes pumped up with roads and extra organs isn’t that big of a deal
It’s the training, and armor they have that is expensive for the imperium
Also the risk of them going traitor and that threats to the imperium pop up faster than they can make marines
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Anon10/17/25, 01:02No.96770704
Have you considered it looks cool and that you've fundamentally misunderstood the appeal of the scene you've recently entered?Five space marines can stand in a line and shoot enough aliens to end a planetary invasion. You don't have to like it, but you have to accept it. It's how it works.
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Anon10/17/25, 04:10No.96771779
Marine chapters should honestly be around 100k strong each because the US marine corp is 150k the PLA marines are 45k and Russian naval infantry are 12K. So thats 200k strong from 3 nations marine corps out of over 100 with just 8 billion people compared to 40k planet populations.
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Anon10/18/25, 04:24No.96779483
I want them to go further and admit that the imperium is only a couple million systems in a galaxy with 200 billion stars. really lean into the dark forest aspect. like how the empire in fantasy is surrounded by forest filled with beastmen.
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Anon10/18/25, 11:14No.96780733
Remember, you can't win an argument with a space marine, they spit acid.
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Anon10/18/25, 18:36No.96782861
Space marines are generally depicted showing up in groups of one to a few hundred. Sometimes less than 100. There are exceptions like there being thousands at Armageddon, but they're exceptions.It can look like there's a lot of them because its showing the exact spot where they considered it important to arrive at in force.Space marines are something we don't have in real life. They're not even like special forces. They're like if an individual infantrymen could be as much of an asset as a top of the line aircraft. I think their low numbers in the lore actually work better than its given credit for.
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Anon10/19/25, 08:05No.96787563
There's much more than 1 million, anon, take the Primoridal TRUTH0 pill.
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Anon10/19/25, 10:32No.96787893
Yes, but not on the galactic scale, but chapter scale
1000 is an understandable number. Here's what I mean-Vraks had casualties in low millions. If you are even a little bit familiar with history, you know it's too little. However, you have to think about it.
You know right away 1000 marines are not enough to matter on a planetary scale.
And don't talk about "muh special forces"- plenty of chapters specialize in other stuff. Furthermore, there are subdivisions, like companies, clans or whatnot. And they are a fighting force, so they aren't always at full strength.
>Here is Ultramarine 1st company, a galactically important force. Currently it has 70 guys
Come the fuck on. You've been to rooms with more people
At no point did that number need to be specified. How many marines does a single chapter have? Anywhere from one million to one. Or exactly how much is needed for the story.
It's also better for /your dudes/. You can fit your own company in any first founding chapter without infringing on cannon material
