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Anonymous11/29/25, 07:30No.16859353Can someone explain what this means?
I don't even know where to start, I can't wrap my head around it, for now I'll just say mental training improves people, it's just perplexing and perhaps some scientist knows.
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Anon11/29/25, 07:53No.16859357
Start by thinking that we are full of misconceptions and harming beliefs about ourselves. It it hard to talk to oneself all by oneself. So talking to oneself through someone professional may be helpful
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Anon11/29/25, 07:55No.16859359
are you bad at parsing english? I normally avoid reading anything an AI writes but that makes clear sense.
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Anon11/29/25, 08:24No.16859373
Alright, as someone who actually underwent CBT for anxiety i can give a brief summary.Basically we have an inner-critic and this inner critic forms core beliefs about ourself, these beliefs in turn create thoughts about ourselves, what people think of us, and situations we may be in.The key is to understand these negative thoughts aren't reality and silly a byproduct of prior self beliefs, notice them when they appear, and retrain them into positive thoughts. There's a lot more shit but that's the basics.And yes, it actually works.
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Anon11/29/25, 08:35No.16859378
The general idea is, that trauma processing is non-linear - it's iterative instead. People do not and generally can not work through their problems sequentially and constructively, and instead get stuck in internal loops. Consider data-processing inequality: one cannot yield extra information with computation only.So, when people ruminate and are unable to integrate disruptive experiences, therapy both supplies a stable, recurring environment to face said problems, that usually involve challenging emotional load and defenses like dissociation. As you keep encountering the distressing memories and thought-patterns, their emotional load tends to change in tone. Memory is reconstructive, not recollective, after all.Furthermore, it doesn't hurt to have someone around to offer external input, even though therapist can't solve anyone's problems. That's still on you. But consider the DPI again - at least you get external input, usually quite observant too.Does it work? From what I hear, it might. Is it fun? No. It seems to be very frustrating and hard work. Does it yield results? Perhaps not during the sessions. Over time, it doesn't seem to make things worse, and people tend to get by. Is there a mechanism? Not in the way people might think. It's not engineering. Why is it expensive? Holding strangers' emotional burdens is exhausting.
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Anon11/29/25, 20:04No.16859687
People struggle with dealing with their own shit, and having a second person to serve as an outside observer of one's shit and a sounding board for reflecting on one's shit is useful. Simple as.
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Anon11/29/25, 20:52No.16859713
It's just brainwashing yourself to be happy with extra steps.
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Anon11/29/25, 23:09No.16859764
You know that fear of clowns you developed because you father would wear his clown outfit while raping you?
You could transfer that to from "clowns" to "aliens" with a little semantic reprogramming via alien-rape roleplays.
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Anon11/29/25, 23:12No.16859765
Therapist
The rapist
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Anon11/30/25, 12:09No.16860048
It says therapy works by gaslighting you into believing that whatever makes you so anxious and depressed is all in your head. Can you prove to the therapist that your subjective perceptions are accurate? No? Too bad. Here's a bunch of neutral interpretations for any negative situation you've encountered. Now, can you prove to the therapist they aren't more accurate than your negative one? Don't his takes sound more rational than yours? Sure, the therapist wasn't there to witness the nuances that coalesced into your gloomy impressions, but he didn't need to be. He knows how your perverse little mind works. After all, he's fine, so the world is fine and the problem is (You). You distort everything.So why not embrace one of the alternatives? You can't? His of seeing is still utterly alien to you? That's ok. All in good time. The seeds of doubt have been planted, so now go forth and doubt your own sense of the reality. Whenever something bad happens to you, interject on the therapist's behalf and inject his 'maybes' until it becomes a new habit. Once the clarity you thought you had about life is lost, he can really start working on you. So tell him all about those newly ambiguous and confusing situations you've been finding yourself in. Let him tell you what should be taken as a meaningful cue and what can be ignored as mental noise. Allow your expectations to sync with his theory and keep an eye out for confirmations until at last, you become normal.And that is the story of """inducing prediction errors"""" to change the """internal world model""" to """alleviate symptoms""" of """emotional distress""".
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Anon12/01/25, 10:05No.16860783
Bad cog therapy doesnt work
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Anon12/01/25, 12:03No.16860844
People have blackbox mind. Either they dont examine it or they dont even know they have a fucking mind. Therapy is just people telling others who do know how minds work, how to reshape the mind properly
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Anon12/01/25, 14:00No.16860907
I don't understand this thread at all.
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Anon12/01/25, 14:06No.16860911
Alot of people miss the basic character of these kind of things. Threat/Reward isn't the best approach to these things, nor is the egoist game good for any return value.Threat/Reward is often better suited to the lower limbs of the darwinian marketplace.
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Anon12/03/25, 07:03No.16862222
if you put some noise in your neural network's training data, it is more likely to settle on a better fit because the noise has a chance of dragging it out of any local minima while not doing much harm overall
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Anon12/03/25, 07:21No.16862234
I'm partially convinced therapy is for the stupid, or simple to phrase is kinder, I've done deep mind dives onto myself and discovered several cores to some of my issues and have even snuffed a few out, this works because zero people will ever know be better than I can, so why the fuck would I pay some random fuck in a chair hundreds an hours for what I can do myself with enough thinking