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Anonymous12/25/25, 07:58No.2855205
Since I think all y'all would be the most mature and knowledgable board about this:
I need to settle this debate for our families emergency kits when a snowstorm or power outage hits. (I checked for a stupid questions thread but there wasn't any)
I am arguing in favor of getting two butane gas stoves/burners for general use, see picrel
The reason for this is that I want to be able to cook indoors for obvious security reasons. We all live in the same, but pretty cramped subdivision, and everyone can look into eachothers front and back yards.
However, my brother is having a mental breakdown how carbon dioxide will kill us if we'd cook indoors without mechanical ventilation or a range hood after a power outage. Regardless of cracking a window or two.
For indoor use I would prefer to use one of those flat stoves rather than something tall like those stoves that you screw on top of a canister, due to its much higher center of gravity. I know there are some safety concerns with those flat stoves, but to my knowledge that is caused by using pots or pans on the stove that are way too large, reflecting and conducting a lot of heat back down to where the gas canister is, causing it to burst under pressure, and the gas igniting from the lit burner, causing a nice thermobaric effect I suppose.
Let's focus the discussion purely using a propane (butane too I guess) stove indoors in an emergency with regard to breathing safety.
Are there any risks if you just cook in one room upstairs with the window(s) open?
Do the risks outweigh the safety/security offered by cooking indoors to your opinion?
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Anon12/25/25, 08:16No.2855206
Do you have a deck/patio to cook on?
Having proper ventilation indoors would mean cooling down your living space to uncomfortable levels then having to heat the area back up after you cook.
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Anon12/25/25, 08:22No.2855207
just use it near an open window, people do it all the time
its not the same as using a charcoal grill or entire propane tank, those are where all the reported deaths come from
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Anon12/25/25, 08:37No.2855209
How do you replace those butane canisters in an emergency? Why not use a stove that can burn gasoline or kerosene instead
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Anon12/25/25, 09:55No.2855215
the fact is these things burn very cleanly and don't produce a dangerous amount of harmful gases, especially in the time it takes to cook a meal. it's not like you're leaving it burning 24/7. the risk is minimal.
you will never get that point across to these types of no-common-sense illogical people living in constant fear though. maybe ask him why he you don't suffocate in your house?
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Anon12/25/25, 12:57No.2855219
The main downside with those is in cold weather the gas pressure inside the canister drops and the flame gets weak. Also when the canister is nearly empty, it freezes up just from being used and the flame can go out. Some have a heat pad that takes some heat from the flame to warm up the canister.
>carbon dioxide
Of no concern whatsoever. Should be more concerned about monoxide but still not worth worrying about. People have use bigger gas stoves in houses with no range hoods for decades by now.
>conducting a lot of heat back down to where the gas canister is, causing it to burst under pressure
I couldn't see how this is even remotely possible. The canister has a lid over it, that would be enough heat protection. I've laid canisters right next to the flame resting against the pot stand to warm them up. No problems.
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Anon12/25/25, 17:27No.2855249
Your PhD brother sure doesn't think like a scientist.
>get propane stove
>get CO detector
>put them in the same room
>test it while you have electricity
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Anon12/25/25, 21:49No.2855271
I use to cook with these daily in a van with the windows rolled down, for about six years almost daily.
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Anon12/26/25, 03:27No.2855302
Is he aware that people heat their entire house, heat their water, and have normal full size stoves that all run on a giant propane tank 20 yards from their house?
If he is super paranoid just get pic related and keep it close while cooking and if it goes off then shut off the little stove.
Problem solved.
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Anon12/27/25, 16:00No.2855422
carbon monoxide detectors are cheap and available, mine also detects Radon, is a great thermometer and cost me about 100Dkk (16Usd)
just gotta be careful with it because i always forget which button is the alarm test, and it is LOUD
whenever i take my lavvu with the stove i also bring it, just because i would rather be woken up in the middle of the night, then not wake up at all
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Anon12/27/25, 20:15No.2855444
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Anon12/28/25, 03:11No.2855488
>families emergency kits when a snowstorm or power outage hits.
>I am arguing in favor of getting two butane gas stoves/burners for general use, see picrelChinesesium shit that will blow up and burn your face off, they're renown for detonating.>Let's focus the discussion purely using a propane (butane too I guess) stove indoors in an emergency with regard to breathing safety.Propane is safe indoors as propane contains it's own oxygen, so it's not burning up the air you breathe. Get a propane camping stove, not a Chinese napalm bomb.
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Anon12/28/25, 13:02No.2855528
I'm using a butane cooker, just like the one in your pic, indoors all the time. They will not emit more CO2, CO or NOx than any other gas stove and just so you know: People have gas stoves.
Some of the ones you showed even come with an adapter next to the knob / dial so you can hook up a hose from a big tank, which will be propane usually.
Regarsibg 'emergencies': Keep in mind the butane cans are so cheap because the can can be very cheap as butane, at room temperature, has what, 2 bars of vapour pressure or so?
By the time you get to freezing there won't be any left and unless you have a way to pump it up and preheat you wont be cooking with it.
Meanwhile propane has much higher vapour pressure at room temp and still plenty left at or below freezing.
For you this means: Butane no worky whrn cold.
Also: Propane without in a cooker that isn't made for it bad. Especiall,without regulator. It was not built for the pressure. Different elastomers (the unit might have some seals) behave differently when exposed to different media. Propane might foul a seal that butane doesnt.
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Anon12/28/25, 21:49No.2855575
>carbon dioxide
It's carbon monoxide. Just get detector. I have one in my car and garage. It's like $15 now.
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Anon12/29/25, 02:15No.2855617
let' have a quick snack while working
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Anon12/29/25, 13:51No.2855666
your picrel burner is absolute dogshit trash, just saying.
it just isnt hot enough and it takes forever to cook anything on it. get a hiking style burner they are far better.
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Anon12/29/25, 17:04No.2855693
Where my naptha niggas at?
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Anon12/29/25, 19:59No.2855711
>mature and knowledgable board
bwahahahahah
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Anon12/29/25, 22:29No.2855725
Yeah just open a window and you'll be fine. Ideally, if weather permits, crack another window somewhere else for a bit of air flow. Have you thought about how you're actually going to set it up? A small folding table with a silicone pad for the burner and maybe a few more for hot pots or whatever would be a good idea. They make smoke alarms with carbon monoxide detectors that live in a standard outlet and take batteries as backup so when the power goes out they'll still work. Stick one of those in the designated room as well. Consider having some Sterno on hand so you can keep food warm or reheat it without using your cooking fuel, the only consideration is rigging up something to hold a pot above it but that shouldn't be too hard, you could use a few empty beer cans or something like that.I see people ragging on you for worrying about your neighbors and it's possible you're being paranoid but I have to say I've felt similarly in recent years. When Texas froze over in 2021 I was fine, I was handing out water in repurposed vodka jugs and grilling on the back porch. Now my area's built up and I'm surrounded by strangers and rentoids and I'm a little worried that if the SHTF again and someone who was too dumb to have some SPAM around sees me grilling it's going to make me a target.
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Anon12/31/25, 21:01No.2855974
check the heat output i have a stove from iwatani that takes butane canisters and puts out 15k btu i think it's bitchin hot. You can cook inside if you're in a big house cooking a meal isn't going to suffocate you if it's absolutely freezing outside, but it's definitely going to make carbon monoxide in some quantities. I wouldn't do it in a small closed room and then stay in that room but use them in an opened garage or something out of the wind. Wind fucks with those things and low temperatures also fuck with the pressure in the tanks and kill the output.. so if you want to cook outside in the cold you need a full canister.
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Anon01/05/26, 04:31No.2856470
>Carbon Dioxide
OP I have a propane/butane stove at the bottom of my storage rack, with 1 lb bottles that I use for the exact same purpose. You know what I also have? A carbon monoxide detector powered by a 9 volt battery. You won't gas out your family while you cook up another batch of spaghetti with canned Hunts tomato sauce and vienna sausages I promise
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Anon01/10/26, 15:04No.2857068
, you are worrying about the wrong one.Since this is for a bug-in scenario and compactness is not a constraint, the sensible choice is a setup that allows the gas tank to remain separate from the burner.If anything, I would be far more concerned about a gas heater like
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Anon01/16/26, 14:44No.2857836
since op is concerned of carbon monoxide, and though he's about propane and butane, i'd recommend a spirit stove (trangia and similar brands) using methanol (methil alcohol).methanol is on every Chinese store here, and readily available. it's toxic, so dont drink it, but is kind of safe if you dont do much contact or inhale much of it.point is, it has one single carbon atom, so it combines stechiometrically perfect with an oxygen molecule (2 oxygens) making perfect combustion: no monoxide but maybe some traces.the stove has no mechanical pieces: long life. just learn how much alcohol you'll need for every dish and it's all.it's cheap also. silent, etc.
very happy with it, inside a boat, at home, etc. i use it with no ventilation if it's rough outside. no problems by now. stable, and if you take the time to learn the amount of alcohol, you can forget about it, as, when the lentils are done, alcohol is finished. no risk to forget and burn.you can use any alcohol, also: ethil alcohol (sanitary one), isopropyl, even vodka, but the only one which will not soot black your pots is still methanol.take care.
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Anon01/20/26, 08:43No.2858237
I have one of these literally under my sink.And i have no ventilation other then windows and doors
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Anon01/20/26, 12:46No.2858248
An open room is more than enough to stop "carbon dioxide" poisoning, let alone cracking a window.
Provided you're just using the stove for meals and not planning on running it 24/7 for emergency heating you should go with the camp stove.
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Anon01/21/26, 05:56No.2858359
Your brother sounds like a pussy but so do you. You're scared to cook on your fucking deck/porch because people can see you? You expect them to come at you with guns to steal your sausage or some shit? Just cook with a shotgun strapped to your back.
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Anon01/29/26, 06:39No.2859519
Unless you're cooking inside with charcoal, you don't have to worry about carbon monoxide with either butane or propane. Don't even bother cracking a window. Your brother and most of these replies are retarded.