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Anonymous01/24/25, 18:55No.2031662we've gotta talk about china
How in the fuck are they pulling this shit off? These commies are making us look like clowns! What is the reason for this?!
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Anon01/24/25, 19:25No.2031666
so for decades chinese people were restricted from moving which built up pressure as other industrializing countries always urbanize and the forces existed in china too they were just held back. when these restrictions were lifted and mass urbanization took place, the chinese government was in a good position to dictate the terms on which cities would densify and build out because no matter what they chose, there would be strong demand for it coupled with minimal local resistance.the story on why we look like clowns when it comes to rail is complicated but the short version is rail was the absolute undisputed king of transport in the late 19th and early 20th century, so when automobiles came out, the backlash against rail tycoons and railroad power was like pouring rocket fuel on the already exploding demand for personal transport, it was decades before popular consensus came to see auto interests as the establishment and by then there was a huge inertia to overcome if anyone wanted to go back to trains, not to mention the unspoken cultural baggage where people instinctively felt that trains are unfree (similar to the weird unstated cultural baggage around gold and silver and fiat money which is actually a manufactured narrative dating from the 19th c. that most americans think is natural)
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Anon01/24/25, 20:48No.2031674
People are not disciplined enough to follow the arrows and let people off.
>These commies are making us look like clowns!
Case in point
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Anon01/25/25, 07:41No.2031722
I hate these doors. They make me feel claustrophobic in and outside the train because any random stop won't have the space as shown in OP.
inb4 """self-driving""" trains
Dumbest idea ever. The overall productivity gain from not having a person drive the train is negligible considering the average ridership of a metro train is well over a hundred and having transportation is well worth 1% of that.
Also they often don't work leading to unnecessary delays.
Finally idgaf about low trust societies where people are afraid of being shoved onto the tracks.
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Anon01/25/25, 12:21No.2031734
They don't have the bureaucracy of land acquisition and tender bidding that you get in the West. They can just drop the lines and stations down where they want, rather than spending decades wrangling landowners and NIMBYs until they come to a solution that's obviously sub-optimal but keeps them all happy.
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Anon01/25/25, 15:45No.2031743
Debt. Lots of debt. They built a lot of stupidly big and expensive infrastructure with excessive debt on the basis that if their growth continued at the pace it was going, the debt would never be a problem. Of course, the slight problem with that plan is that there was no guarantee of continued high growth.Going to be interesting over the next few decades watching how China copes with the burden of all the shit they've built over the last 20 years. There's going to be some difficult decisions being made about where to allocate continued funding, what to shut down and demolish, and what to continue running on an inadequate budget while trying to avoid becoming a new Liveleak upload.
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Anon01/25/25, 16:03No.2031744
>These commies are making us look like clowns!
No they aren't. Communism has always had good mass transit because people don't have any property rights and cannot meaningfully oppose it. How old are you?
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Anon01/25/25, 17:56No.2031755
No matter what China's political or economic future is, Shanghai will always be one of the world's largest and most impressive cities.
I hope to visit someday. Probably when Xi is no longer in power.
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Anon02/16/25, 05:30No.2034067
>pillars made of styrofoam
>exploding swivel chairs
>escalators that eat people alive
>electric cars spontaneously combust all the time
I'm not sure I'd trust Chinese mass transit.
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Anon02/16/25, 05:35No.2034068
because they are obsessed with their image, they run their trains at a loss because for some reason they think having trains that look cool and a "high speed railway" will trick people into thinking china isn't a shithole
a really surprising amount of their propaganda paid shill talking points are surrounding trainsobviously they cut corners like they do with everything, constant horrific accidents that don't make it into mainstream news, but if you look a bit harder you will find footage/pictures of hundreds and hundreds of people dying in train accidents constantly
they try pretty hard to cover it up, including burying train carriages with injured people still alive inside them, sealing up completely flooded subway tunnels to hide drowned bodies after they still rain the subway during intense flooding
shit makes you sound like a schizo when you try and tell people because it just doesn't sound like something that would be happening in current year but, there you go.
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Anon02/16/25, 13:00No.2034082
There's no communism in China, retard.
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Anon02/18/25, 13:24No.2034307
They're not commies anymore despite the name, they're something closer to fascists. And at least their mass media doesn't tell them to hate themselves all day every day.
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Anon02/18/25, 18:05No.2034339
I can tell you exactly why America can't compete, but I'll get banned for racism again
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Anon02/18/25, 23:06No.2034374
what is "this shit" and why is it impressive?
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Anon02/19/25, 01:50No.2034380
The secret to society building is 2 fold
-ethnic homogeneity
-stable civil cultureChina currently is actually set to be the best civ in the world. They are no longer a shithole. Yes, their success is built off the backs of a billion dead chinks who suffered. That's the past now. And yes, it remains a totalitarian state. But the restrictions are loosening. With prosperity, they are needed less and less.
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Anon02/19/25, 06:14No.2034392
The west committed to socialism and so we spend half our gdp on gibs in one form or anothernothing left for building infrastructureAnd of course our massive costly subburban sprawl for obvious reasons noone will talk about
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Anon02/22/25, 16:34No.2034659
China FUD thread.
You will miss the boat if you believe all the negative arguments.
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Anon02/23/25, 17:11No.2034804
>hello fellow americans look the china butthole ceiling is making us look bad
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Anon02/24/25, 23:33No.2034939
Jews
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Anon02/25/25, 02:32No.2034951
Slave labor. Geography. Billions of people living there, and even with 6 lane city "streets" it would jam up. Lack of single-family homes.
China subway system is one of the most advanced in the world. Beijing got GTO chopper trains in the 80s when it was a new hot tech. Doors on the stations, etc.I guess chinks did what they do best, and copied Japan.
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Anon02/28/25, 05:24No.2035195
>Posts unrelated videos to try to prove me wrong
Lol
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Anon02/28/25, 20:08No.2035239
>random car repair shop drops a car on a mechanic
>this proves that the entire PRC often buries high speed rail cars full of living people as part of a moon-landing-tier political propaganda piece
for this you get a vintage cat meme reaction image
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Anon03/01/25, 00:34No.2035248
Boomers see nothing but decline in the west, and they think the whole world is the same
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Anon03/01/25, 02:17No.2035252
>A 2-year-old girl was found alive in the wreckage hours after the rescuers had been told to stop searching for survivors and to begin cutting apart the wrecked carriages.
Wenzhou train collision, 23 July 2011
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Anon03/01/25, 02:28No.2035253
Zhengzhou subway flooding, 20 July 2021
14 dead
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Anon03/01/25, 16:38No.2035305
>Ameritrains
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Anon03/11/25, 13:12No.2036251
https://youtu.be/TVygTAoWXfI
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Anon03/11/25, 13:30No.2036253
>How in the fuck are they pulling this shit off?It's a centrally planned economy. All public transport even in the west is a make-worknproject that pays off with higher gdp and greater mobility.FYI the USA could have finished the California HSR from SD to SF and the Texas HSR from Houston to Dsllas HSR, full shinkansen, with labor for what we spent in Ukraine so far (68 billion)How many new jobs and companies would have been created doing that? Instead we pursue foreign folly.
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Anon04/03/25, 01:45No.2037969
To build a comprehensive passenger rail system that takes people to where they actually want to be you either have to:
>A. Have laid down the groundwork in an era when there was less in the way.
or
>B. Be willing to tell whoever is in your way to fuck off or be bulldozed.
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Anon04/10/25, 12:06No.2038478
turns out, building a country is actually about infrastructure, not some retarded spreadsheet gains about fake money.
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Anon05/06/25, 22:28No.2039747
>How in the fuck are they pulling this shit off?
The central reason is that they have actual engineers in charge of a lot, rather than a bunch of jerks who get their rocks off from saying "No" to everything.
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Anon05/08/25, 23:32No.2039912
they pay the worker using money they print by themselves
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Anon06/07/25, 05:03No.2042912
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Anon06/12/25, 03:13No.2043585
Imagine being one of the guys in charge of designing the Chinese railroads. Some cities skyline shit, they just get a map and get to drag and drop rails, mountain in the way? 10km tunnel. 20 mile wide bay? Bridge. Peasant house in the way? Deleted. Skyscraper block in the way? DeletedThat’s the stuff dreams are made of.
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Anon06/12/25, 04:09No.2043592
Americans aren’t civilised enough for trains.https://youtu.be/mko5Y8QUEjI
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Anon06/12/25, 18:02No.2043934
Are you a jeet? I just assume anyone obsessed with riding trains is a jeet. I get the cargo train autists that sperge out over seeing rare cargo train engines but who can be that excited about riding on trains to get around as a form of transportation? That's gay shit.
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Anon06/17/25, 00:02No.2044822
It's very easy to do when you prioritize increasing the asset value of the nation and the people, as opposed to protecting the rent inflows of entrenched capital.
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Anon07/02/25, 09:48No.2046947
Chinese metro is basically an investment vehicle for the city, which is why they are often large, radiates well into the countryside and have stations in the middle of nowhere. Another reason why is that china railways have a monopoly on the lines and the cities cannot interfere or run trains on the existing line within their city. Since China railways are only interested in Long distance and High-speed services. Commuter service is basically impossible, so they might as well build a metro line. All of these works since for the last few decades the chinese real estate market was booming, so it made it easy for them to keep expanding the system as development were more than happy to catch up.
But they do have a problem since they do have a tendency on bypassing places people actually live and building primarily in places with alot of available land. It worked before since development would catch up and people would eventually move into the new developments, kinda reminiscent of the whole urban flight situation in the US. But this system only works when the real estate market is growing, which isn't now.
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Anon07/03/25, 18:19No.2047164
>commies
theyre not 80s level commie anymor and they havent been for decades
theyre a sort of communist-capitalist blend now
communist policies but turbo consumerist
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Anon08/06/25, 13:53No.2050698
1. Massive exploitation of labor class
2. Successful mercantile exploitation of trade relationships with the west, US in particular.
3. One-party totalitarian commie government with no obligation to its citizens and unconstrained by laws can do whatever it wants to show off an image to the rest of the world.
4. Apart from that, there's massive demand for high-density transit in China because it's so densely populated. A comparison with India makes more sense than the US in this regard. (India has lots of passenger rail, it's just filthy and decrepit)
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Anon08/06/25, 19:19No.2050714
Relative to their population, Chinas economic output is actually fucking awful
1.4 BILLION people, yet they still trail behind the US in terms of nominal GDP, are below the global average in terms of per capita GDP, and in terms of human development are comparable to Mexico
What's that? Natural resources? What natural resources? China imports most of theirs from Africa and Russia.
They like trains? Okay cool, so does Japan, except even Japan arguably does trains better than China does with a fraction of the population and economic output
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Anon08/07/25, 02:56No.2050726
THe chinese uses their money for themselves
The US uses their money for Israel
Simple as
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Anon08/07/25, 09:47No.2050731
>elect a meme tv boomer retard grifter as supreme leader, real last days of Rome shit
>twice
maybe you are fucking clowns eh eh?
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Anon08/09/25, 18:51No.2050963
Honestly don't get the obsession with China. They are very poor still but they already have a much higher inequality than the US.
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Anon08/17/25, 20:14No.2051518
It's pretty obvious that having an authoritarian government that cares little for human rights can achieve more than a bureaucracy that gets bogged down by dozens of random bullshit on every single bill that passes
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Anon09/22/25, 12:54No.2054339
Fastest electric road legal car is now also in the hands of China.It's wild, almost 500km/h
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Anon10/17/25, 20:49No.2056386
>These commies are making us look like clowns!
The cope from the right seems to be "Ha I don't want civilization I want to live in the woods with my pickup truck and laptop."
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Anon10/18/25, 23:55No.2056493
>We've gotta talk about China
No we don't, they're an irrelevant shithole.>How in the fuck are they pulling this off?
They're not. Remember all the soviet-era propaganda about great works they never made? Its just like that. Thirdie delusions to save face.>These commies are making us look like clowns!
They're not.>What is the reason for this?
You bought into shit that isn't true. As a general rule, everywhere outside of the West, barring perhaps Japan, is a shithole. Has always been a shithole, will stay a shithole. Ten thousand years after the last poster on this site has died and crumbled into dust, it will still be a blistering boil on the ass-end of humanity. No exceptions.You can safely treat any information to the contrary as a lie, because it is a lie. China has not, isn't, and won't ever, build, invent, construct, create, or otherwise improve anything on this planet. Its all downhill, always has been.
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Anon10/19/25, 04:36No.2056512
China has like 50 metros but honestly? That seems like too little for a country of 1 billion people. Elevated metros are pretty cheap
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Anon10/19/25, 05:48No.2056513
Government spending. The Chinese rail system is a trillion dollars in the red. It does not make money, it is a publicity project.
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Anon11/08/25, 22:28No.2058269
>we've gotta talk about china
Your pic is from Shenzhen which is noted for how atypical of China it is.
It has many elements of Hong Kong civilisation as well as old Cantonese culture and western technocratic innovation.Other Chinese megacities have impressive metros too and there's high speed rail of course but Shenzhen is probably the most advanced in China (HK is superior though).
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Anon12/12/25, 06:41No.2060906
americans do mass transit (among other things) badly on purpose to "prove" that these things MUST be in the hands of private industry alone so that number go up
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Anon01/25/26, 17:27No.2064275
Happy Birthday This Thread
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Anon01/26/26, 14:26No.2064311
It's not just China, visit any East Asian country and you get utterly blackpilled. I was in Taiwan for a week last year. The smallest and shittiest in the region compared to China-Japan-Korea. The Taipei MRT(maglev subway) completely rapes NYC and LondonTheir only downside(not just Taipei but all other East Asian public transport I rode) is the crowds were insane but that's not a fault of the transportation systems themselves, there's just billions of people in all of them
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Anon02/17/26, 20:34No.2065964
>didnt invest in car hell
Its an either/or not both. Although they are getting more carish....
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Anon02/17/26, 22:52No.2065978
the invested in a thing that would have a tangible ROI of some kind instead of insisting that they are simply too big to fail and making up reasons why inflation is Good, Actually
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Anon03/16/26, 06:07No.2067887
Why are people on Reddit worshipping this? This layout was created with the intent of selling gas and a car to every inhabitant. All those people could live in a few tall buildings built together.https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1ruihfi/la_plata_argentina_has_diagonal_shortcuts_and/
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Anon03/23/26, 01:07No.2068490
I visited Shenzhen back in January. I found the Futian Station pretty impressive and the metro pretty convenient. I generally didn't like the fake tokens you scan and return to take the system, but that's mostly since I like to collect the cards and tokens from the different systems I've traveled on.
I liked Hong Kong more, though admittedly I spent a lot more time there. I'd visit again, though I'd either need a translator or at least a passable level of Chinese under my belt.
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Anon03/24/26, 09:23No.2068615
because unlike modern wypipo, chinks dont seem to like brownoids and raghead culture too much, but dass not rayciss n shieett cuz dey aint yt, plus theyre commies so libtard honkey racetraitors arent going to call them nazis, at least not yet i think
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Anon03/24/26, 09:41No.2068616
Lack of niggers. Jews selling all manufacturing to China
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Anon03/24/26, 09:45No.2068617
>I bump this thread again guys! Having shit threads die? hahah not on my watch!
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Anon05/10/26, 21:46No.2072959
https://youtu.be/tP42s0zrpvM
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Anon05/10/26, 22:20No.2072967
It kind of annoys me that the "airport style" HSR station at the outskirts of the city is so associated with China when it exists in every country that has HSR, and France in particular does it a lot and makes you rely on a car a lot more to get to these isolated HSR stations.
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Anon05/11/26, 20:43No.2073062
its because china is a dictatorship so chuds cant use lawfare on every single level of the building process of a HSR
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Anon05/16/26, 17:41No.2073500
I forgot I made this thread
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Anon07/01/26, 21:48No.2077197
They are smarter and more efficient than western societies, which are all in decline.
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Anon07/01/26, 22:31No.2077202
it turns out that having a centrally planned economy is good for making a railroad network that spans your entire continentalso no ni
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Anon08/05/26, 03:09No.2079054
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJe7wGUMyTo
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Anon08/27/26, 18:48No.2080587
Priorities that's all