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Anonymous08/21/26, 21:41No.43454282>CLOP: Financial Crisis edition!
>CLOP has risen once more! Come play a fresh new round of the decade old browser game about building nations, geoponitics, and oppression!
Build nations, make deals, forge alliances, BETRAY alliances! Pretend to be confused when they retaliate! Do whatever it takes to succeed in the chaotic political landscape.
>Link to the game itself
https://4clop.org/
>Previous threads
https://rentry.co/clop-threads
Come join >CLOP and help make the drama happen!
What's different?
IRC is back!
A new admin with more passion than sense!
A slightly cheaper URL!
DNA is plutonium! It'll make sense!
A victory condition! First to ascend wins! Terrible idea or genius? We'll find out!
Harder ascension! Now that it's worth doing, we don't want it to be too easy!
>Reset when?
About 5 days ago!

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Anon08/21/26, 21:46No.43454297
the ichkmareian government is excited to announce another 100 development bonds that we issued! our biggest batch yet!just 7000 bits each! that means you're getting oil for just 4000 bits! that's really cheap! get half of it immediately, the rest after all the bonds are sold out!more information at our web site: https://rentry.co/chechnya
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Anon08/21/26, 21:52No.43454320
I need input.
Most of the game's problems are downstream from player count, so my focus is currently on recruiting and on boarding. Buffy had kindly offered to help with advertising, but sadly I belive that offer has been rescinded. I'm assuming the responsibility falls to me again, but I'm still hoping to get some feedback.The landing page is not welcoming, so I'm going to overhaul it. What does it need? I want the login parts to stay at the top so nobody has to scroll, but there should be something else.
So far I'm got a short description of the game and a link to a quick start guide. Anything else?
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Anon08/21/26, 21:53No.43454326
is it too late to get in the game as a beginner?
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Anon08/21/26, 21:54No.43454332
Why do you have two threads?
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Anon08/21/26, 23:03No.43454532
Were it not for my holy duty to eradicate TNN, I'd have dedicated all of myself towards revitalizing the free market properly.
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Anon08/21/26, 23:18No.43454595
THIS IS THE FAKE THREAD, IGNORE THE RETARDS IN THIS SLIDE THREAD TRYING TO MISDIRECT YOUREAL THREAD:
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Anon08/21/26, 23:49No.43454696
Can we just ban Huffy (assuming it's confirmed he's the one shitting up all this)
This is genuinely annoying and anons from the catalog are getting put off from the game because of all the schizoposting
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Anon08/22/26, 08:46No.43455825
Go on Zaam. Fucking do it bitch. Be the reason copper dips below 2000

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Anon08/22/26, 12:57No.43456162
U guys realise this is like a diplomacy and shit game rightIf Zaam is crashing the market just get ur Non-Zeb buddies to embargo him and threaten to invade him and all that siht!
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Anon08/22/26, 13:14No.43456182
anyone up to invade iran for oil (in 4clop)
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Anon08/22/26, 14:59No.43456410
Site may be down
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Anon08/22/26, 15:20No.43456449
For the few IRC-chads: I've tested and Goguma works really well as a mobile IRC client (importantly, with chathistory support).
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Anon08/22/26, 16:27No.43456593
So is the game considered "on pause" while the site is down or are ticks still happening
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Anon08/22/26, 16:28No.43456596
Well everypony lets gather around the campfire and talk about life, love and magic
Personally I love my wife and it would make me very happy if I could ejaculate into her
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Anon08/22/26, 17:04No.43456666
Hey host, last time we had the PHP source, and it sounds like you've tweaked some stuff since. Would you consider opening your current source as well this time around or do you wanna keep it secret?
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Anon08/22/26, 17:06No.43456670
I wasn't able to join for a while but I'm able to now, weirdly enough.
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Anon08/22/26, 17:09No.43456675
was lurking trying to see what this was, didn't know it'd put me in immediately, or what I was doing when I was setting it up, you can kick me lol, i just joined as DerpyMan
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Anon08/22/26, 18:14No.43456825
I better get sat compensation for this.
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Anon08/22/26, 18:19No.43456839
I better get oil compensation for this.
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Anon08/22/26, 18:28No.43456859
I better get bits compensation for this
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Anon08/22/26, 20:25No.43457198
Can a nation with newfag protection attack an older nation without it?
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Anon08/22/26, 22:54No.43457482
I wish you could eat apples
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Anon08/23/26, 02:58No.43457855
>zebrican trade partners keep complaining about zaam

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Anon08/23/26, 18:38No.43459001
Is anypony writing a guide? I want to write up a proper guide but just checking in to see if anypony else is on the job first

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Anon08/24/26, 03:28No.43459997
I added a quick start guide. It's currently linked on the login page, but will likely be moved to the new account page.
I'm sure I'll be torn apart about this, but that's okay. Input would be appreciated.Only Burro is covered so far.
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Anon08/24/26, 04:13No.43460073
I might be dyslexic but do units train on midnight once they have at least 1 combat or does it happen regardless if they have done combat?
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Anon08/24/26, 21:21No.43461823
Sell me machine parts or I will kill myself
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Anon08/24/26, 23:42No.43462219
Me every day in >Clop

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Anon08/25/26, 00:18No.43462278
rip Yakub
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Anon08/25/26, 00:19No.43462281
he gave us the gift of ponies and left the rest to us o7
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Anon08/25/26, 01:36No.43462474
>I love a crowd!

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Anon08/25/26, 03:38No.43462702
If you buy my expensive apple, it's a special flag check that makes you immune to war, and is usually used for testing but I used special hard to find game-editing tools.
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Anon08/25/26, 18:10No.43463961
Sell some damn COPPER and PARTS on FREE MARKET
Why is there only 4 prze's in the ENTIRE GAME
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Anon08/25/26, 22:16No.43464670
I don't think I have enough time to babysit this game to keep my nations alive. I'm going to have to sit this one this close to Mare Fair since I won't even have my PC for a week. It would be cool if there was an app version that just specifically wrapped the site for portrait mode.
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Anon08/26/26, 05:54No.43465571
Feature development is mostly on hold until I patch up some of the more interesting problems that previous hosts have warned me about. Thanks, HostAnon and TKoE (he hosted for a while. Who knew?)That said I'm sick of bashing my head against the issue and am taking a break to add news articles to the situation room. If you've got any suggestions I'd appreciate them. I want them to be mostly lighthearted and silly, but we can definitely have some serious ones.
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Anon08/26/26, 08:52No.43465820
BISMILLAHI RAHMANI RAHIMthe ichkmareian government is excited to announce that another 250 new development bonds have been issued!just 7000 bits each! that means you're getting oil for just 4000 bits! that's really cheap! get half of it immediately, the rest after all the bonds are sold out!more information at our web site: https://rentry.co/chechnya

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Anon08/26/26, 12:17No.43466102
Hey nuhost, would it be possible to have a test sandbox instance of the game, so we can for example play around with war mechanics to learn how it works, or check how other nations play?
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Anon08/26/26, 16:32No.43466590
Rainbow Dash in distress

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Anon08/26/26, 19:16No.43466937
THE HOST HAS DIED

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Anon08/26/26, 20:02No.43467029
>be in discord
>get in call with other teammates to try and discuss in real-time what big moves we want to make this tick
>our pretzel is a literal tranny
should i just leave my alliance? i'm just tired and would rather take my chances alone than rely on trans.

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Anon08/26/26, 20:31No.43467079
Changeling Colonies here, sorry for dying
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Anon08/26/26, 21:05No.43467161
I'm sorry for having gender dysphoria guys!
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Anon08/26/26, 21:19No.43467207
Silversprite envoy meet Fish Bucket's leader at last - year/age 7, colorised>Full
https://u.pone.rs/qnqywaux.png

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Anon08/26/26, 21:36No.43467261
>I'm a poor widdle cute tranny guyz don't you wanna be friends uwu I'm one of the good ones I promise!
Just stop fucking replying retards
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Anon08/26/26, 21:43No.43467274
>The last 40 posts

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Anon08/26/26, 21:53No.43467305
how do i join the irc
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Anon08/26/26, 22:07No.43467347
POV: You receive some copper.

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Anon08/26/26, 23:18No.43467566
The Great and Regal Leader of Vladihoofstock.

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Anon08/26/26, 23:57No.43467644
To all of you who are attending Mare Fair, please take a moment to consider the Stasis option.
Stasis exists for exactly this kind of eventuality. Your nation will be exempt from all ticks. It will neither produce nor consume resources. It will be safe.
There is no cost, aside from the lost production. You can exit stasis any time after 24 hours, whenever you have time to play again.
As an added bonus, your nation will stop your nation from aging, stretching out newbie protection. You probably don't want to be invaded while at Mare Fair.
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Anon08/27/26, 01:05No.43467793
Half of UEC just died

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Anon08/27/26, 03:18No.43468118
Since we're embracing the roleplay and drawing leaders, have Starseeker, Grand Matriarch of the Heralds-- I mean, of Starlight Reach.

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Anon08/27/26, 04:50No.43468242
When and where is the >Clop mare fair meetup?

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Anon08/27/26, 10:57No.43468624
Representative of the democracy movement of Darkmeyer
also FUCK the UEC all my homies HATE the UEC>how the fuck do you draw ponies

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Anon08/27/26, 16:29No.43469177
sweaty horse butt bump
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Anon08/27/26, 23:20No.43470435
how everyone in the alliance messageboard is talking

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Anon08/28/26, 04:24No.43471001
>copper market is back up
The copper must flow!

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Anon08/28/26, 11:19No.43471508
BUILD MORE FACTORIES!!!
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Anon08/28/26, 16:35No.43471995
ass

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Anon08/28/26, 18:00No.43472195
why is copper so expensive
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Anon08/28/26, 22:19No.43472761
Accidentally sold 100 Apples instead of buying them

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Anon08/28/26, 22:22No.43472769
RELEASE THE COPPER FILES
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Anon08/28/26, 23:18No.43472898
I am NOT paying that much for your copper
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Anon08/29/26, 11:58No.43474269
>chechnya spends 5mil advertising
what a chad
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Anon08/29/26, 17:58No.43474953
A pony? In a kirian nation? It's more likely than you think!

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Anon08/29/26, 18:48No.43475088
>thread named CLOP
>Looks inside
>No clop
I'm disappointed
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Anon08/30/26, 08:46No.43476569
>threads are dead already
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Anon08/31/26, 07:16No.43479663
Some of you are getting really ambitious with userscripts, so I'm adding a new rule.User scripts are permitted, unless they change the game state. Reading from the game is completely fine. Writing to it without actual player input is not. Don't automatically send armies, messages, deals etc.Also, don't poll the server too frequently. If you're running your script every second you're going to be flagged as malicious traffic. To stay on the safe side, don't poll more than once per minute.In case of a grey area, ask first.
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Anon08/31/26, 10:45No.43479848
Ichkmareia will rise again

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Anon08/31/26, 14:33No.43480187
Friendship is magic. And small alliances keep the game healthy! TNN extends more independence guarantees.New friends when?

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Anon08/31/26, 20:05No.43481162
economy in shambles
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Anon09/01/26, 02:47No.43482341
Look I know the copper price is high right now but did you hooved gypsies really need to resort to stripping the copper wiring from the database server??

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Anon09/01/26, 04:50No.43482598
>In her landmark address today, Empress Daybreaker announced the reorganization of Equestria in her continued attempts to restore order, and has invoked the Truth in Media act to help curtail the spread of misinformation. Former princess Twilight Sparkle has been declared an enemy of the state following an attempt by the disgraced regent to surrender the Empire's assets to the forces of darkness. Stay tuned for further developments. Sol Invictus!
>Twilicorn
This really is a fucked up evil world

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Anon09/01/26, 06:34No.43482750
FUCK Zaam
All my ziggas hate Zaam
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Anon09/01/26, 08:44No.43482937
THE OIL MARKET IS DRY
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Anon09/01/26, 09:11No.43482976
Do not listen to the tricksters in this forum my brothers and sisters. We in the village of Zaam follow the ancient ways. These white devil mares and their tricknology industrial complex seek to put our name in the dirt. It will not work on us. It is our dirt. All who have a heart that shines will see Zaam and it's people share that light. Do not be fooled by these pasty clevermares. They seek to bind you in their chains and time you with their clocks.

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Anon09/01/26, 14:54No.43483357
how does lunar/solar protectorate nation type work?
asking for a friend
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Anon09/01/26, 21:33No.43484522
copper...
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Anon09/03/26, 01:48No.43487856
Drew pinkie again

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Anon09/03/26, 09:40No.43488504
who ate all the apples
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Anon09/04/26, 00:04No.43490791
>all the environmental facilities
Midgame is here
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Anon09/04/26, 03:35No.43491172
grim

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Anon09/04/26, 08:32No.43491820
We've got a new landing page. I'll be using this as the link to whatever recruiting campaigns I end up doing. Input would be appreciated.
Yes I used Claude to do the styles.https://4clop.org/welcome.html
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Anon09/04/26, 11:17No.43491982
I took a couple of passes at making it less offensive. I'm sure it still needs work, but I really shouldn't be awake right now.
I'll get back to it later.
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Anon09/04/26, 14:57No.43492270
Reminder to all nations that a gasoline combustion facility is less efficient at using oil than a normal oil combustion facility. It's 10 oil -> 8 gas -> 12 energy vs 8 oil -> 12 energy.
I'd say only use GCFs if you REALLY wanted to minimize sat loss, or have reached the OCF cap of 5.
Looking at you burros using gas combustion facilities for whatever reason (and subsequently demanding more oil)
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Anon09/04/26, 19:57No.43492982
Mining ponies

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Anon09/05/26, 06:00No.43494277
I keep hearing the same criticisms about the game, and they're all downstream from player count. The market is dead? Yes, and having more players should fix that. Free Market is bad? Yes. If the market was alive it would be better, so we need more players. TNN has an unfair advantage from their preexisting connections and experience? Yes. And if there were enough players they'd have more opposition. My primary goal is to recruit more players. However, previous recruitment attempts, both mine and those of previous hosts, have gone poorly.
The landing page is meant to be an attempt at making the game more appealing to outsiders. We'll have to have SOMETHING. Somebody has kindly offered to make one, and I hope they pull through. If not, we'll be revisiting it.
In the meanwhile, quite a few people quit after making accounts. This is often attributed to confusion. We need a guide that holds your hand long enough to at least understand what you're looking at.https://4clop.org/gettingstarted.phpRevisions would be appreciated. They MUST be specific and actionable. If it's vague, it's useless. If you want to completely rewrite one, feel free! I'm more than willing to put good work in the game. Just remember the goal.It's telling a new player the absolute basics, and assuming they need their hand held.
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Anon09/05/26, 15:40No.43495209
make it... ours.
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Anon09/05/26, 19:54No.43495714
can a cheats button or something be added to the test 4clop? i miss the huge stockpile of resources you started with. i wanted to make a little trailer video for the game

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Anon09/06/26, 03:50No.43496730
war
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Anon09/06/26, 05:12No.43496839
Am I doing this "activity checking" thing right

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Anon09/06/26, 11:27No.43497292
i wish we could fund rebels of other nations and give them weapons
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Anon09/06/26, 15:51No.43497812
do you guys think that all the nation types are pretty balanced, or is there one that's heavily skewed in favor
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Anon09/06/26, 20:31No.43498605
Very interesting that the Communist Eradication Front are harboring Solar Vassals, the MOST communist government...
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Anon09/06/26, 21:00No.43498673
call me Warning: number_format() because i expect parameter 1 to be double, string given in /var/www/html/empireoverview2.php on line 98
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Anon09/07/26, 12:23No.43499942
How much damage does a single rebel do? Do we have the numbers for that?
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Anon09/07/26, 17:30No.43500405
so, for no reason whatsoever, if an attacking force and a defending force arrive in your nation on the same tick, the defenders take effect right?
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Anon09/07/26, 19:59No.43500775
it begins
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Anon09/07/26, 23:38No.43501228
Newfag here. Are you supposed to join an alliance to get free shit (or good deals) to quickly catch up? Or is it viable to catch up by yourself using the open market?
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Anon09/08/26, 02:37No.43501577
Generally yeah it's best to get an alliance to support you. Especially right now since the market is weak and is having a hard time being supported since a lot of players are keeping resources insular to support each others growth.
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Anon09/08/26, 11:55No.43502176
>Young agricultural nation, established after a social revolution overthrew a Lunar Republic aligned government.

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Anon09/08/26, 12:33No.43502229
Attention, nations of Clopestria: TNN will use their dicksword server and invade you! This is your notice to embargo them asap.

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Anon09/08/26, 13:13No.43502271
TNN absolutely living up to their reputation from last time lmao
And here I thought, without a goebelbird, they wouldn't have any reason to aggro everybody the instant newbie protection wore off, and might actually have a peaceful reputation this time around
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Anon09/08/26, 16:53No.43502576
TNN guarantees are nothing but lies, a stake of claim so that they can conquer them later. Do not fall for their tricks.
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Anon09/08/26, 18:14No.43502759
Everything about this is kinda gay dude

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Anon09/08/26, 20:34No.43503074
You know it does come off pretty opportunistic that you're going after the one isolated vassal but ignoring an entire alliance of them. If it's your CB and all, why ignore them and only go after the weak and isolated? Are you scared to uphold your stance against an actual threat or are you just trying to justify profiting off weaker players with no support? Are you just trying to salvage your image by trying to make them attack you first so you can cry and say you're the victim even though TNN is the one aggressively pushing hostility and danger exclusively at newer, weaker, and more isolated players with activity checks?
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Anon09/08/26, 21:20No.43503204
I think DV genuinely has autism or something.
Read the room bro, last time everyone was saying "TNN are oldfag niggers, they will warmonger against everyone with their advantage!" and you warmongered first tick. You can present as many excuses as you want, it doesn't help when you give an excuse every single time you wardec on tick 1, it's still wardecing on tick 1.
Then you did "no further provocations" after killing 1TB because your stockpiles were drained and the others had gotten their shit together and started scaling, so you didn't have any easy wars left. It doesn't matter if you tooootally didn't have any other war plans. In fact I even believe you, but fact is that you had no other options anyway, so it's not some kind of point in your favor.Right now you're doing the exact same thing. Half the game still remembers TNN the warmongers that literally the entire game allied to kill afterwards (to the point that, may I remind everyone, you lot ragequit in a single tick after everyone finally pooled their prepared resources together into the army against you), the other half are new this iteration and had only heard stories. Well congratulations, you've just demonstrated to everyone that
>TNN will wardec you tick 1
is not just a meme or propaganda.>oh but the solar vassal land was promised to us 2000 years ago if you read this ancient history--
Read the room you retard, nobody else knows or cares about that, all everybody knows is that you're an oldfag discord tranny cabal and don't hesitate to wardec on anyone you don't like.Everyone who played two years ago knows what a CEF unipolar world looks like. They buy DNA. For a good price, and without military intervention. I'm sure all the independents are quaking in their boots and scrambling to prevent that future, because TNN "we totally don't blob we promise except when we can pull out a convenient excuse for the invasion every single time" is so much nicer to have as a superpower.
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Anon09/08/26, 21:57No.43503286
I for one, think CEF should take the opposite stance, as well as providing defense protection for all solar vassals. That would be funny and fair IMO, have a faction war in the game
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Anon09/09/26, 02:20No.43503718
I genuinely enjoy helping others with their rebel and superpower problems. Wish there was more of a pve aspect, because as entertaining as it is watching and being subject to the wardecks, it's shitty knowing that there's basically nothing I can do to support them or myself in a meaningful way due to the nature of the game
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Anon09/09/26, 06:02No.43504005
What happened to legion of doom alliance?
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Anon09/09/26, 11:36No.43504430

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Anon09/09/26, 13:52No.43504664
>TNN hostilities made the independents form the UN

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Anon09/09/26, 15:18No.43504920
total tnndeath when
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Anon09/09/26, 17:25No.43505341
Peace for our time

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Anon09/09/26, 18:23No.43505546
I'm only barely allowed to shitpost, this is truly 1984

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Anon09/09/26, 20:03No.43505789
All I'm doing is feeding the little guys. No ambitions of conquest whatsoever. Just playing my little economy simulator

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Anon09/09/26, 22:38No.43506266
a solar vassal ZIGGED anon posted this
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Anon09/10/26, 03:44No.43506844
>make sure everything is at a net positive
>go to bed
>wake up
>nation lost to rebels
>mfw
Welp. At least it was fitting to my user and nation name.

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Anon09/10/26, 03:46No.43506849
I've been asked for clarification on rule 4, specifically if you can give your nation away when quitting the game. You may.The intended purpose of rule 4 is to prevent people from farming nations and building empires without conflict. Without it, the meta would be to let your alliance kill you the instant you turn 21 and spawn in more land until the empire penalties become intolerable.The intent is not to make players feel obligated to stick around after losing interest. Besides, it would be pretty hypocritical to prohibit that since Maresaw kept the land of some players who got bored.Please let me know before doing this so I know what's going on. And don't try to game the system by "quitting" repeatedly and coming back. That's just nation farming but slower.Rule 4 really needs a revision, I hate it so much.
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Anon09/10/26, 04:15No.43506894
Idk I just feel like nowadays we kind of end up in cold war forever every time.
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Anon09/10/26, 09:23No.43507312
>Come back
>A single resource out
>Image
Uh... should I be worried?

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Anon09/10/26, 09:54No.43507356
Four random zeebs just joined the game and instantly formed an alliance together.
Sus.
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Anon09/10/26, 11:12No.43507450
TNN FIGHT HARDER THAT'S AN ORDER