if you had to start a ultraluxury gun company

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Anonymous09/05/26, 19:56No.65484765If you had to start a ultra-luxury gun company, what would you do?
I was thinking about the fact that there's no American equivalent to companies like Holland & Holland, Joseph Lang, or Rigby (or like Beretta). Basically the ultra top tier and "fuck you money" shotguns of the aristocracy. Let's say you had to start now ('26-'27)... what would you do? How would you reach such legendary status?
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Anon09/05/26, 19:59No.65484782
I'd show your mom my legendary status, I'm level 500 in clash of clans and moderate seven subreddits
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Anon09/05/26, 20:02No.65484792
I think it’s dumb to make guns THAT fancy. Same reason I don’t like super luxury cars. There’s so much hassle involved it prices to you out of enjoying it. It loses sight of its original purpose. I wouldn’t want a car so fancy and luxury that I never took it out of the garage.
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Anon09/05/26, 20:36No.65484908
>why is there no American company that sells 20 guns a years for meme purposes Those eurotrash companies only continue to exist due to massive government support
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Anon09/05/26, 20:37No.65484910
That's just shit that richfags and euro aristocrats keep in a glass display never to be used. As much as I love skilled handiwork, fancy guns don't do anything for me. I think I would focus on just making high quality copies of guns that should have been executed properly. I'll make that fucking R51 work AND look good
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Anon09/05/26, 20:42No.65484921
Bailey Bradshaw. I go to his booth every year at the Dallas Safari Club. Best quality and in novel actions.https://bradshawgunandrifle.com/about-bgrHoenig also used to make a great rotary action double rifle, but he retired. Bailey now makes them under license.
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Anon09/05/26, 20:48No.65484936
there is literally no point in buying ANY gun that costs more than $2k after that the diminishing returns are so minute you're just paying for the ability to wave your dick around and say "I own a Holland and Holland *hoitey toiety posh highbrow upper crust laugh*" want to shoot buffalo? buy a used winchester in 375, not a $80,000.00 double barrel nitro bullshit
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Anon09/05/26, 20:50No.65484940
>companies like Holland & Holland, Joseph Lang, or Rigby Those companies operate at a loss. Their owners are wealthy enthusiasts who don't care about turning a profit; they just care about the prestige of what they do. Treat those companies like what they are—cool passion projects, not serious businesses.
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Anon09/05/26, 20:51No.65484945
Lie to my investors and make the Halo shotgun instead
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Anon09/05/26, 21:00No.65484971
Check out Connecticut Shotgun Manufacturing Company. If you want a $30K shotgun, they will make you one. I know nothing about their functionality, but they look terrific.(connecticutshotgun.co)
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Anon09/05/26, 21:11No.65485000
The embellishments are a damn impressive art but are there ever any unorthodox manufacturing methods any of the manufactures use as a gimmick. Like a firearm clad entirely of silver? A stock made of walrus ivory? Drawings are worth what whatever someone is willing to pay but precious materials are precious materials.
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Anon09/05/26, 21:31No.65485057
I'd make a two-lug Krag-Jorgensen for modern cartridges. I'd also make a higher quality version of the Ithaca Mag-10, but with an advanced extra long forcing cone, slight overbore, and a modern long choke tube system designed to pattern very hard shot. We'd offer factory TSS loads for it - 2¼oz of TSS #BB @ 1450fps. You'd be able to drop geese at 120 yards.
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Anon09/05/26, 21:42No.65485075
No point in making super high end presentation grade guns and limiting your customer base. You'd be better off making high quality mass production guns and making a limited edition run of high end heirloom guns to showcase the overall brand. At least that way you can make a profit by having wider appeal and being approachable for average gun buyers.
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Anon09/05/26, 21:51No.65485094
I think it'd be pretty difficult to do it. There aren't many of the sorts of skilled craftsmen that you'd need left in the world, and almost all of them came up through apprenticeships at those existing high-end gunmakers in Europe and are dedicated to their companies. Company history and heritage are also large selling points for these companies and I'm not sure a similar operation could be successful without it.If I *were* trying to do something like that in the US, though, I think I'd focus on more quintessentially American guns instead of trying to compete directly with the Euros. Leverguns done to similar standards could probably be quite successful and I could see bolt action rifles in common American hunting calibers and setups working as well. There might be room to do really fancy semiautos and handguns as well, and hell, I even wonder if super luxe AR-15s could be a thing.
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Anon09/05/26, 22:01No.65485121
If I had a gun company it would be a combination of Q and Kel Tec. I don't think there's anything new to be done in fancy guns that stay in a case
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Anon09/05/26, 22:15No.65485150
If I had a gun company it would be Los Armalitos Hermanos. The AR Brothers. Today we carry on their tradition that would make my five illegal workers proud. The mystery meat ingredients are brought together out of spec and JB welded together. Then we clamp on a chode brake to perfection, yes, the unemployed ways are still best at Los Armalitos Hermanos. But dont take my word for it, one squib and you'll know.
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Anon09/05/26, 22:22No.65485168
>How would you reach such legendary status? >buy H&H, >gen ai videos about the "mystique" and "glory" of owning an H&H >secretly move company to Turkey >rake in pre orders for anniversary model at 1/3rd off >declare bankrupcy >keep the cash, duh >sell/ransom company back to king charles at a profit >fuck you all! I win.
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Anon09/05/26, 23:28No.65485281
Why the fuck would I do that? I establish a company to make proper replicas of historical firearms. If they're going to be prohibitively expensive, they're going to be that way because of the ordeal it'd take to actually set up production to make them. Gustloff Volkssturmgewehrs with actual manufacturing standards? Why the fuck not, I'm apparently obscenely rich.
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Anon09/05/26, 23:30No.65485283
m1 garand in retarded calibers. .375H&H, 500nitro, etc.
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Anon09/06/26, 00:19No.65485357
Provided that success is a given and I wont immediately go bust, probably going to try and become the Blohm and Voss of guns, making weird ass shit that's first goal is to make the viewer wonder what the fuck theyre looking at. For our first product we're doing a sten-style layout but its gonna have a recoil lock arm opposite the mag and its going to look really stupid
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Anon09/06/26, 00:24No.65485363
>there's no American equivalent They exist except they're all $10k custom 1911s/2011s
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Anon09/06/26, 00:43No.65485386
>no American equivalent That's because American society is an order of magnitude less class conscious, so there's less market for gun as status symbol within the upper class than there is in England. And partly because to the extent the American upper class did want such guns, it's mostly for hobnobbing with English aristocrats, so it must signal appropriately to that audience -- which inherently gives the established English makers an edge over an American upstart. (Keep in mind that the big American manufacturers did in fact have custom shops capable of finishing their guns to any desired level for an appropriate price.)>Let's say you had to start now ('26-'27)... what would you do? How would you reach such legendary status? You just won't. In addition to the reasons it's not happened already, the market for gun as status symbol is not expanding. You might conceivably make some money selling your own twist on fancy guns, but it's the wrong century for making that kind of name.
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Anon09/06/26, 01:24No.65485469
>like Holland & Holland, Joseph Lang, or RigbyRevive classic Safari cartridges and rifles for them. Polymer budget versions, and partnering with specific guides/companies. Make hybrid and Backcountry or whatever alloy rated versions in whatever's selling the most in those for the midrange options. Make Tim Sundles the spokesperson.
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Anon09/06/26, 03:26No.65485717
I would see if I could get Miroku to make them for me. H&H ain't shit.
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Anon09/06/26, 03:41No.65485753
Recreate historic firearms I'd have reproduction-tier that are basically just 1:1 repros, a bougie line that add some fancy hardware, finishing, etc. and a custom line for boomer retards to piss away their kids' inheritance Sharps Creedmoor, Single Action Army, M16A1, BAR, etc.
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Anon09/06/26, 04:04No.65485785
Model 1881 Vetterli in .44mag
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Anon09/06/26, 06:56No.65486005
Cabot Guns exists.
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Anon09/06/26, 16:19No.65486686
M1 carbine in .223 rem that takes stanag mags
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Anon09/06/26, 16:26No.65486700
USA doesn't really have the culture of >rich aristocrat with guns because USA didn't have the problem where only nobles and certain other individuals were allowed to hunt. USA is more >cowboy larping with SA revolvers >wild prarie hunter with a trapdoor rifle Kind makes it dumb to try and do such a thing because of it.
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Anon09/06/26, 19:28No.65487048
When you’re looking at luxury stuff like this it is almost impossible to recreate the hundred+ years of status associated. You would have to run this as an extreme high end passion project and market it as art moreso than firearms manufacturing.Bespoke measurements for perfection are a given but even beyond that I would focus on extreme high quality pieces with each gun being 1/1 utilizing rare materials and master engravers. Then I would copy Ferraris policy of limiting buyers of my limited runs when I do start producing them. >Gentlemen >Introducing the Roosevelt and Leopold Arms Corbett Series >A .450/.400 Nitro express double rifle utilizing the finest East Indian Satinwood, an increasingly rare species of the subcontinent known for its distinctively striped and orange pattern >Only 50 of these will be made with individualized engravings detailing Jim Corbetts adventures battling the Chambawat Tigress and Leopard of Rudrapayag >All steel manufactured using Precision Closed-Die Forging and hand finished to perfection >Hand engraved by master craftsmen Ezio Auditore and Leonardo Lamborghini>The Paleo Hunter Series >.577 Nitro Express Double Rifle >Utilizing an Osage Orange wood stock (dietary favorite of mammoths) with stunning engraved plating of mammoth ivory and petrified wood blah blah blah You get where I’m going with this. Nobody is shooting this shit but Duke Archibald Teabottom of Dumbcaster would buy it as a conversation piece.
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Anon09/07/26, 03:49No.65488302
Lame answer but to me function > form first and foremost. All these modern high end guns are style over substance in the worst ways. Look at this fucking Beretta. I love Beretta, they make nice shit. But this? Take away the Devil May Cry/His Infernal Majesty ass artwork and it is a basic bitch Beretta. Now there's nothing wrong with a basic bitch Beretta in and of itself either. But a high end custom, IMO, needs to have significantly more time and effort spent into the fitting and finish of the base gun pieces. Not that everything needs to operate like a 2011, maybe you overfit the frame like old custom 1911s so that you literally polish them down by firing. But the tolerances should be slim to nonexistent if possible. Milling and machining should be crisp. All surfaces and faces perfectly smooth. I want a fucking STGW57 but make it a pair of toggles in the bolt carrier group, with .000001mm of deviation, I want the beer keg charging handle to fit perfectly into the dust cover groove. The trigger should break like glass every time, etc. You see where I'm going with this? I want the bluing to be perfectly consistent on top of that already perfectly smooth receiver finishing. >And then, when that gun is mechanically as well-made as you can possibly make it, THEN you can add some pretty elements. Guns are tools, a high end gun should be a high end tool, not a basic tool that looks pretty. Look at the actual good old high end guns, or the things made by people who use guns for a living you'd get from say Garden & Son Piccadilly like the 4 barreled howdah pistols. Could they get ornate and elaborate? Sure. But even if not, there is a baseline construction that far exceeded normal manufacture. And it feels like the world has forgotten what true craftsmanship is at the cost of surface level flash and glamour.
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Anon09/07/26, 21:35No.65490368
Is there any real difference between the fancy British gun makers in terms of quality and prestige? Holland & Holland, Purdey, Rigby, Boss & Co. and Westley Richards all seem kind of interchangeable to me, except for the fact that Westley Richards is based in Birmingham, rather than London like the rest. I know they all have their own proprietary designs, but is the level of craftsmanship basically the same among all of them?
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Anon09/07/26, 21:43No.65490384
Diamond encrusted MP7
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Anon09/07/26, 22:22No.65490455
What would a $10,000-$20,000 AR15 be like gentlemen?
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Anon09/07/26, 23:42No.65490649
Reproductions of crazy German WW2 guns with modern materials and techniques. FG42, luger etc.
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Anon09/08/26, 01:45No.65490976
Same thing every American company does. Import some turkshit, laser engrave eagles, stars of David, and dragon dildoes onto it, then have several microns of the finest gold plating applied.
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Anon09/08/26, 02:02No.65491019
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Griffin & Howe.
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Anon09/08/26, 04:23No.65491356
I wouldn't, I'd pander to the ultra conservative pro 2A anti woke crowd and make them think consuming my shit was the patriotic thing to do while secretly funding planned parenthood with the profits
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Anon09/08/26, 07:24No.65491585
You need the people with the skiis and they are rare and only gain them from decades of experience. It's not like some scam .com,crypto or llm startup. Assempling even the raw materials like correctly cut and seasoned root walnut blanks would take years, let alone the workers. Serious European gunsmiths go through a very long apprenticeship in a guild system, which is quite neoptistic and they are going to be very hard to find.
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Anon09/08/26, 08:32No.65491641
you want >mastercrafted by hand instead of mass produced slop >wood stocking and good metals instead of polymers >silver/gold/ivory engravings instead of fancy optics it shoudl also have above average specs because quality should reflect that too,
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Anon09/08/26, 09:20No.65491670
You really can't. The popularity is based on colonial era safari books and stories you can't replicate today. It's all 80% name. 10% massive hand labour cost that adds nothing to the actual function of the gun. 5% actual beauty of the piece and 5% price tag that guarantees no poor person can join the club.
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Anon09/08/26, 14:03No.65491992
If you want pure functionality with double guns, then $11k-$15k is where you get the most for your money. The $30k+ guns have all of the money in insane woods that look like tortoise shell, hand engraving that takes literal months, gold inlay, and more customization from there. Olympic clay shooters almost always use Perazzi MX, Beretta DT11, Krieghoff K80, and Kolar Max series of shotguns, with an occasional Blaser, Cesar Guerini, or Renato Gamba showing up. Most of these brand’s competition offerings are in the aforementioned price range.
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Anon09/08/26, 15:23No.65492130
This is more a question of luxury sales then about guns.They're sold as pieces of jewellery, not to the best shooters, but to people who want to spend money on jewellery.Factors in luxury sales? Can anyone purchase them or is there some kind of shit test. So a gimmick might be that you only sold them to people who could actually hit clays, because that would be likely to shit one rich person enough that another rich person would buy one. And this would also make them personal pieces, if you bought someone else's it would have their name on it, so every rifle would have provenance and none could really be counterfeit.And all of that is really just bait, to anger a really, really rich person to trying to duke your system and for example, send a straw buyer. So for example if they were only available to Olympic medallists, you'd have to be rich enough to send an Olympic medallists to straw buy you one.A common feature of weapons like this is that they contain a medallion which in itself has significant value. It's for the man who buys the gun to give to a woman, because she knows there's only one per gun. So you're sort of given her million dollar status for the value of the badge. And it means "my boyfriend has a shotgun". I actually sewed a glock keychain on my wife's socker hat, she didn't even notice, as far as she's concerned it's just the brand of whoever made the hat. But it's a strong warning to other men, who probably do know.And I'm going to say that these probably do exist in the US, you've just never seen one.
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Anon09/08/26, 16:12No.65492264
You know those Chinesium cut-to-order parts fabrication services where you send in the schematic along with payment? That, but specifically for replacement parts for C&R/discontinued guns. Maybe do grips/handguards/stocks as well.
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Anon09/08/26, 18:28No.65492544
Flintlock and percussion guns. Smoothbores, rifles, and pistols. Everything needed to shoot and maintain the gun included.
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Anon09/08/26, 19:41No.65492737
All guns would have > American flag print on entire gun > brightly colored barrels and other components > Gadsden flag > spartan helmet and "MOLON LABE" > punisher skull > "We the People..." > "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" > TRUMP 2028 > MAGA > Picture of Trump with "FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT" > "FAFO" > "A warrior In a garden..." > "Christ is King" > Mjolnir > "Forklift Certified" > "All gave some, some gave all...."
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Anon09/09/26, 10:18No.65494499
Make guns that are unavailable in Europe (AKA semi autos) so they can't compete with you
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Anon09/09/26, 10:30No.65494518
Cater to the more money than brains guntuber crowd and make high quality oddball shit like an MG42 pistol in 9mm or something.