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Anonymous09/02/26, 02:11No.65474156/gq/ - Gear Queer - Tactical Gear General Thread
Post gear, discuss gear
Zero-Chinese Tourniquet Policy Edition.
Old: >>65458292 [/k/thread/65458292#p65458292]
>AI King of the Hill Stream (aka what armor autism sounds like):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFlDAgLFCSc

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Anon09/02/26, 02:13No.65474160
reposting in this threaddo you think one of these would fit a Trooper MK III?

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Anon09/02/26, 02:17No.65474173
/gq/ Infographic Emporium:
https://imgur.com/a/gq-infographic-emporium-1-00-1lZ5xw6
Legacy Infographic Reserve: https://imgur.com/a/k-infographic-reserve-AIKzwWF>Last time on /gq/, intense armor autism remote viewed Adept's secret LE plate lineup. Protech and Hesco made a baby. The philosophy of autism was debated, and anon asked about groin flaps.>QUICK ARMOR GUIDE 2.178
CODE: * = active NIJ-cert, ^ = NEEDS SOFT ARMOR, DND = do not drop, ** = military.
>Special Rifle Threat:
/pfg/: Protech X-CAL LP^DND (Last ditch option!)
Budget: Hesco L211
Mid-Range: Hesco M210
High-End: Hesco U210 / U211, LSAPI**, or Tencate CR-6450SA.
>CONUS Minimum (M80, M855, M193):
Budget: Hesco 3611C, SAPI**^, or Gilliam 6001
Mid-Range: Hesco 3612* or 3810*
High-End: Hesco 3811* or 3811LV^DND
Elite: Used Cercom CER-EMH**^
>CONUS Medium (M80 + M855A1 or BZ API):
Budget: Protech 2120-5
Mid-Range: Hesco 3411* or LTC 19513
High-End: LTC 28780**
Elite: VelSys PBZSA**DND or Hesco SC3812 or Protech DT306C-HW
Elite-Plus: Used Ceradyne MH3 CQB**^DND (10x M995)
>CONUS Optimal (M855A1 + M80A1):
Budget: Highcom 3S9 (SAPI-cut)
Mid-Range: Used LTC 28550** / 28590** or Highcom 3S9M* (SAPI-cut!)
High-End: Used LTC 28595**
Elite: Used LTC 28570** or VelSys TSA**
Elite-Plus: Tyr XHA4/S6/T(DND) or GEN 6 LTC TSA**
>Level IV / CONUS High (.30-06 M2AP):
/pfg/: Used Protech 2014G (last ditch option)
Budget: Gilliam 1023, Protech 2014MC, or Hesco 4403*
Mid-Range: Hesco 4601* or ESAPI**^ (REV. G-J)
High-End: Hesco 4800(DND), 4800LV^DND, or Protech 9812-R1(DND)
Elite: Tencate CXP-800 SA or Ceradyne SOF ESAPI MK.II**^DND or Adept Emperor
Elite-Plus: Ceradyne SAEC**DND(??)
>Level IV+ / CONUS Extreme (Various)
Budget: Protech 2230 / Hesco-Protech 2230-1 (M2AP at +600ft/s) or Gilliam 8002 (.300 Winmag Swiss P AP)
Mid-Range: Adept Colossus (7.62x51 Swiss P AP) or REV. C XSAPI**^ (M993)
High-End: Rev. D XSAPI**^ (7N37?)
Elite: ECSAPI** (M993)
Elite-Plus: Ceradyne 96034** (7.62x51 Swiss P)

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Anon09/02/26, 02:25No.65474197
OP is a cock guzzler for making a new thread when the old thread is on page 2 and nowhere near image limit.anyone got a recc for a good 40mm pouch/multipouch for 40mm grenades that takes different lengths well? trying to fit 12 on my panel.
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Anon09/02/26, 02:39No.65474233
Anyone know if these 260W "100 meter" range pumped laser pistols with 21700 battery packs are legit? Several different models, they all just started popping up on ebay for some reason like a week ago.

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Anon09/02/26, 03:30No.65474367
New tac helmet out, should I buy the bump?

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Anon09/02/26, 04:07No.65474498
[/k/thread/65458292#p65474055]
>>>/out/2879232 [//boards.4chan.org/out/thread/2879049#p2879232]
Bump
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Anon09/02/26, 04:17No.65474529
Anons, how do I go full late 90’s/early 2000’s LAPD swat larp like that one scene from The Fast and the Furious?

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Anon09/02/26, 09:48No.65475005
I have a huge head and need an XXL high cut helmet. The problem is that the AMP arms don't bend inward enough to seal Earpro against my head.I don't want to wear my headset under the helmet if I can. Are there helmet mounted earpro arms that press tighter against my head than the Ops Core AMP arms?
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Anon09/02/26, 18:23No.65476395
i am looking for large flat pouch to carry a wand and hose for an OC vapor canister. I have a backpanel with provisions for mounting pouches on both sides of the panel. I want to mount my thicker canister munitions on the outboard side and my hose on the inboard side between the panel in the carrier. I can only compress the hose so much, I don’t want to damage it. i dont care if it’s a zipper or velcro enclosure. the wand and connector together is 14” long. it’s okay if the wand sticks out the top. i have already considered hydration bladders, but i fear those will be a bit thick for what I want.

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Anon09/02/26, 21:32No.65476863
Iron Dildo I mean Iron Armadillo is selling these "III++" 6.5lb quasi-IVs for just under $100 a plate. They stop 2x M2AP but not at NIJ spec and spacing needs to be wide. Otherwise "rated" for M855A1 and 7.62x54R steel core AP - probably 7N13 or maybe B-32.
Chinese alumina-PE tile array, ceramic coverage is 70% or higher per mfg so the cheat ring is major but not quite RMA bad.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/325986853533?
Their ceramic-PE Level IV is 6lb, which is rather interesting. Backer is probably weaker or the cheat ring is larger. That one tests decently, report showing 2x M2AP at NIJ spec with about 30mm BFD.
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Anon09/03/26, 00:42No.65477329
I think Botach is now flipping used Aholetech or something.
https://surplus.botach.com/law-enforcement-10x12-segmented-hard-armor-plate-police-trade/We're reaching levels of desperado never thought possible.
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Anon09/03/26, 01:25No.65477466
[/k/thread/65458292#p65458292]
Just a few things: OP is not a fag, Eyetailians make needles for sewing leather and apparently human skin, y'all y'all be posin' larpers who will die shamefull'ree with missing buttons and I am the only real player in this desparate, cosplayer hellhole. Notice how I made sure to attach pic?
>P L A Y E R

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Anon09/03/26, 13:31No.65478621
broke my rucksacks waist strap the other day I'm looking for a replacement. I don't really need anything too fancy, I'd prefer something that checks my boxes but isn't expensive or super rare enough to where it couldn't easily be replaced. I have plans for getting something real nice a few years from now, but for now I'm ok with something less fancy.My requirements are
>Needs to be good enough for running in
>Needs to be able to carry 35~70 pounds comfortably
>QD straps would be nice
>Fits well with a FLC, especially when taking it on and off quickly. A big issue I had with my old sack was getting the waistbelt on with my chest webbing on, it wasn't quite right putting it over the webbing or under it.
>I like external frames conceptually, but I'm open to internal frames if it's a good sack
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Anon09/03/26, 16:42No.65479066
Looking for magazine pouches that can hold 3 5.56 mags, as well as some AK/AR-10 mags. Also needs to have elastic to cinch the pouch down when stuff is removed, an adjustable height flap, and optional bungee retention mounting points. Any options?

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Anon09/03/26, 17:55No.65479229
bro is paying for internet by the minute and needs others to google mag pouches for him
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Anon09/03/26, 18:08No.65479265
Yeah you can get low end RF2 plates for $150 all day, and even Botach RF1s are lighter. $500 a set for incredibly overweight RF1 with a single gimmick is blah. Judging by the very long video they're some sort of ultra thick PE stack, like Botach but looser/unpressed and slightly more flexible. Weird.
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Anon09/03/26, 19:13No.65479416
I want NIJ certified LVL 5 plates and laser goggles. What do?

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Anon09/04/26, 01:26No.65480198
Also tactical defense & security took their pages down for the 4S20M and 3S22M. Uh-oh. Lot of premature launches lately. Adept still hasn't formally promoted the Emperor and the Mantis' page still 404s.
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Anon09/04/26, 07:55No.65480865
For ICW side plates (ESBIs), does the soft armor have to be immediately behind it? With how my AVS is going to be set up, the soft armor would be internal of the harness but the side plate pockets would be internal of the cummerbund. Does the quarter inch of foam, or maybe quarter inch of air, degrade efficacy of the soft armor to enable the ESBIs?
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Anon09/04/26, 14:45No.65481297
Also as a side bar, special rifle threat plates come in two camps
1. They straight up lose to .308 because the backer is weak as hell. Hesco T212, L210, Z210 are in this camp. These are the ones that rely basically on the ceramic to do everything, so if it's compromised then gg. These you gotta be real careful with. Very easy to brute force.
2. The SRTs which handle select .308 / 7.62x51 / 7.62x54R threats but do not meet the full NIJ Level III requirements versus 7.62x51 M80. The Hesco U210 / U211 stop M80 but go over 44mm BFD. The Tencate CR-6450SA does it once but BFD is also over (it's like 47-48mm IIRC), the VelSys PBZSA also does it at least once within NIJ but it will lose the 6x multi hit battery. Also it's only 0.52" thick so drop protection is a no. Level IIIs need to stop 6x M80 conditioned. That's a baseline.
Hesco L211 and M210 also stop M80 (they stop 7.62x54R LPS cold under 44mm) but piss hot over 44mm BFD as well. LPS is stronger versus the strike face but doesn't "push" the backer as much.Absolute best III+ right now is the Protech DT306C/HW from CopQuest. It's like $2,800 a pair, but 4lb for a 10x12. Six M80 or six M855A1. Full drop pro, 1" thick. Gilliam's 6001 will lose to A1, you need the 6002 for that.
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Anon09/04/26, 17:41No.65481643
Anyone have experience with Ex Umbris Designs gear? Been eyeing their plate carrier
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Anon09/05/26, 00:52No.65482762
What are the current GTG surplus gas masks on the market ?
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Anon09/05/26, 01:52No.65482891
This Russian plate test got auto-dubbed by youtube's AI and it sounds like a flamboyantly gay Russian is edging himself the whole time while also trying to cork out a shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx_1Umb1-20
>no penetration
>nothing caaaaame throooough
>we are the final authority
Not sure if ai slop youtube poop or the world's first armor porn.

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Anon09/05/26, 03:13No.65483011
Also should probably define what Real Hard Shit is.
So long story short, an XSAPI is rated for tungsten core 7.62x51mm M993 three times, with spacing, at up to 3,100ft/s. An Adept Colossus is rated for the more potent 7.62x51mm Swiss P AP, and is capable of stopping M993 up to around 3,500ft/s per Buffman's testing. The Gilliam 8002 Max also is rated for 7.62x51mm Swiss P AP.
The Colossus loses to 7.62x54R 7N37 at 2,714ft/s. That is an actually modern, long-core tungsten penetrator design. Ergo, the 8002 Max also likely loses to 7N37.The difference is that M993 and Swiss P AP are small core designs. M993 was meant for punching light vehicle armor and Swiss P AP is a heavier, mostly lead projectile designed to perforate shitty old IVs from back in 1998 with fiberglass backers. Tungsten core busts the strike face, remaining projectile makes it through. 7N37, and by extension other actually modern APs like AP11LR, AP10, and the .338s like AP529 simply have too much of a core. You need a thicker strike face. So in that respect the 8002 and Colossus are kinda in a catch-22 situation. Overkill for CONUS but not strong enough for the rare day the Real Hard Shit comes out to play. There is one alternative, however...
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Anon09/05/26, 13:04No.65483824
If anyone needs a carrier in Large, this one from HRT is on sale
Comes with their cummerbund
https://hrttacticalgear.com/products/hrt-rac-plate-carrier-contract-overrun?variant=48169692397803
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Anon09/05/26, 15:29No.65484069
GPCF50 is a bit overkill for doing urbex stuff but also lends itself well in case of being exposed to some nasty gases, right?
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Anon09/05/26, 19:57No.65484771
Hot take, the armor industry is oversaturated and a lot of the tiny chinese white label companies are probably fronts for less... honorable enterprises.
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Anon09/05/26, 20:10No.65484819
Some funny test reports on this page. VetsMFG ran a 4lb Level III all-PE plate against a .338 Lapua, 250gr Scenar, at 2,939ft/s and got 79mm BFD.
https://www.firearmadillo.com/doccumentation
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Anon09/06/26, 03:29No.65485722
>nice desert camo you got there
>now make the knees black

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Anon09/06/26, 12:58No.65486358
This one is for the nvg nerds. Anyone use Holosun lights/lasers? I’m contemplating picking up a pid pro for my five seven. Throw some discount Chinese noodle technology on that thang. Go birds.
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Anon09/06/26, 18:08No.65486891
Man I love when Botach is selling two year old Level III PE plates as police trade, cannot guarantee performance, when they've still got eight years on a ten year warranty.
https://surplus.botach.com/battle-steel-10-x12-level-iii-ballistic-plate-shooters-cut-new-old-stock/?They have plenty of deals, but make no mistake. Botach is sleazy and you gotta watch your back buying from them.
Also, side note, Gilliam warranties all plates for ten years except for the made in china OA+'s, which are warrantied for five. The obvious implication is that those aren't expected to last ten.
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Anon09/06/26, 19:51No.65487118
OK finally getting some EDC set up after years of not carrying. Got a couple of questions:
1. Got a Gunner Custom Holster for my CZ as it was the only one for my pistol/light config. Plan on OWB and chose a paddle because frankly the other one looked gigantic. Paddle screws in. Anyone know if the screws are at the same spacing I can put in a Tek Lok belt loop instead? I just wanted a more slimline holster so it wouldn't be as obvious.2. Looking at belts. Work is cool with me carrying even OWB. But it is business casual and 90% of the time I'm wearing darker jeans or slacks and a button down long sleeve, tucked in, with a denim or leather jacket over it. I've heard good things about Hanks but also some more recent concerns. What I am looking for based on 10 minutes of research is a double layer, horsehide [if possible since that seems to be the best] leather belt, steel [gunmetal or non plated] squared buckle [but i can swap that out myself easily enough] and 1.5".I've heard Beltman is also really good and damn tempted to get the Bullhide 1.5", but they dont seem to be recommended much on here. Kramer's also looks nice and idgaf about the wait time if it is worth it. A good warranty is ideal but really I am looking to buy a single belt that is going to literally last me the rest of my life. Willing to spend to get that, I just have an out of sight out of mind brain and I know if I get an inferior belt I'm still gonna not replace it for years until I get around to it so I'd rather just go straight for the top. I dont care if you need a bending machine to break it in, I just need the most durable double layer 1.5" leather [and only leather, no reinforcers, fucking hate synthetics] belt you can recommend to me. Thanks!
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Anon09/06/26, 22:26No.65487555
Gentlemen, Adept has dropped the new SECOND GEN Archon IV+ plate. It is now 5.2lb instead of 5.8lb, $580 a plate, 1.05" thick standalone. The trick is that instead of SiC-TiB2 they are now using... QBC-265™ multiphase armor ceramic. BFD is slightly higher, nearly 33mm rather than mid-20mm range versus M2AP.I'll need to figure out what QBC-265 is. This is interesting. M995 / 7N39 protection with boron carbide weight.
https://www.ade.pt/product/archon/
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Anon09/06/26, 23:12No.65487643
Alright, I think I got it. OBSiC. Oxide bonded Silicon Carbide. Listed areal density is an exact match at 2.65g/cm^3.
Adept forgot to upload the test reports and the two listed are just the Emperor's, duplicate. The data is however on the page. I'm just concerned about sizing.
The Archon is nominally sized and assuming sizing is the same as the GEN1, this should be about 5.4lb, not 5.2lb, if true 10x12. Regardless this is very impressive for a SiC-derived plate. 5.4lb is B4C weight and those IVs usually lose to M995 out of a 20" and other light tungsten threats.
Also, since this is not B4C-derived, amorphization failure is unlikely versus tungsten, so in theory you can get the same 10% weight reduction for the Colossus. Puts you at 5.8lb for not-10x12 and about 6.3lb for size-corrected, actual 10x12. Versus 6.5lb and 7.1lb, respectively. That's huge.
I will give Adept credit, evasive about NIJ and sourcing as they've been, they're actually trying new shit. New ceramic. Same cannot be said for most of the big guys. If Hesco used this OBSiC ceramic with the 4601 it'd be just under 5.8lb. Gilliam with the 8002, 7.56lb instead of 8.5lb. Multi-hit Swiss P AP $314 plate for less weight than a Hesco 4403. The exciting bit is that Adept sells their ceramic to Gilliam.
My thing is, this is the EXACT kinda ceramic a plate like the GEN-IV XSAPI would need. Why not take a stab at that program? Kick LTC in the dick.No free lunch rule unfortunately still applies. Grain of salt.
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Anon09/06/26, 23:55No.65487725
Has anyone used the hsgi 2qt4u canteen pouch? I want to use it as a gp pouch but I'm wondering how much can fit in there.

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Anon09/07/26, 02:05No.65488057
i bounced a check to pizza hut
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Anon09/07/26, 02:46No.65488143
A man on ebay is running an auction for a single "Protech 9812-R1" which is really an ESAPI. Even has a homebrew logo and everything.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/168663672973
I dunno why he's being fruity as hell about an ESAPI. If anyone wants to gamble it's bidding at $3.25 at the moment. Philly trash sniper, you're up.
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Anon09/07/26, 13:05No.65489091
Good morning Saars it is time to discuss armor

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Anon09/07/26, 17:49No.65489827
Return and departure of the Velcro fetishist
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Anon09/07/26, 20:43No.65490209
Damn, real cyberpunk shit.
https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/malaysias-tenaga-nasional-incurs-losses-more-than-1-billion-crypto-power-theft-2025-11-19/
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Anon09/07/26, 23:03No.65490546
How does the usgi cold weather gear system work? Do you wear the level 1 and 2 tops and bottoms and then whatever outter layer you get? Wanted to get some cold weather gear for winter camping and some shooting as well. Will be doing a nvg 2gun in december.
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Anon09/07/26, 23:34No.65490628
https://jinwudun.com/products/jwd-wendy3-0-tactical-bulletproof-helmet-american-standard-iiia-ga2-level-uhmwpe-material-spray-polyurea-coating?variant=49861429133559How sus are Jinwudun helmets? $190 free shipping is tempting the shit out of me as a brokie.

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Anon09/08/26, 00:32No.65490777
Side bar, this dude has a United Shield Kent IIIA shield. $453 shipped, 10.4lb, 32x22. Dealer sample, serial number is 002 (lol). Actually pretty nice specs.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/227150018033
US is a good cop shop brand, 4th fiddle behind Point Blank, Safariland, and Armor Express.
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Anon09/08/26, 01:36No.65490950
Thoughts on Finnish M05 camo for the South? Specifically Appalachia area.
The pattern itself tickles my brain in a pleasant manner
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Anon09/08/26, 02:19No.65491056
These straps are pretty great. I just walked I didn't run or do any kung fu in it. That's all I want, just walking out to where I shoot and walking around to different places to shoot. I already have an enhanced deluxe edition in the works but I'm not posting that until it's ready.

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Anon09/08/26, 03:09No.65491203
For one modern example, TacScorp sells a Crucible ~750BHN shield for $470 good for M193 up to 3,300, plus other "III+" threats, but it's relatively tiny at 14x24 and still weighs 18lb. A hand shield.
https://tacticalscorpiongear.com/tactical-scorpion-gear-armored-shields-choice-of-style.html?
A body bunker would be well north of 60lb.
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Anon09/08/26, 05:20No.65491421
I fucking love saw pouches.

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Anon09/08/26, 14:23No.65492023
Were there any helmet deals? For my purposes I'm fine with chinksoft gear as long as it can handle weight well enough
Just need a helmet that has an NVG mount already so I can find a way to nigger rig some deer antlers to the front of it using said mount
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Anon09/08/26, 19:20No.65492689
Well, bad news, Gilliam jacked the price up a little on the 1635 RF3. $378 a pair shipped.
For the specs (6.4lb RF3 / IV with 2x M2AP capability) that's still not bad at all. If they get it NIJ certified like they said they were going to, then there's no reason to entertain the Hesco 4403 anymore or the Highcom 4S17M for that matter.
https://www.gilliamarms.com/products/model-1635-rf3-multi-curve-armor-plate
Faster we can leave fiberglass-backed plates like the 4403, RMA 1155 (both gens), and 4S17M behind, the better. That's old school and PE is the way forward. Problem is only the Chinese make it economically for budget plates.
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Anon09/08/26, 19:24No.65492703
Wasn’t there an infographic on Ace Link armor? I remember them being cheat ringed.
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Anon09/08/26, 20:01No.65492797
r8 the paintIt's a litter. Really only on there because it makes the back of the belt even with the back of my plates while sitting in a vehicle.

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Anon09/08/26, 23:45No.65493298
Where is the best place to buy bulk drone parts? Assuming I want to keep a storage bin full of materials to build 5-10 drones in a pinch. From what I've seen, they're pretty basic. Some carbon fiber structural pieces, a battery and a control board.
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Anon09/09/26, 07:49No.65494359
[/k/thread/65458292#p65473835] Old thread
Was a very good vid, even if it did turn out to be an ad.
https://youtu.be/HbDKDX8lVM0
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Anon09/09/26, 07:55No.65494367
Hearing Protection and Gas Masks, specifically the Avon C50
Do I just toss on the headset as normal over the straps? I don't have a helmet yet but in the promotional photos and other photos of soldiers/LE wearing the gas masks, I see them all using either in-ear like the Ottos or with the helmet mounted kit for the over ear muffs like Sordins
Not sure which is best to not fuck up the fitment on head
I'm probably overthinking it