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Anonymous01/22/26, 01:53No.64785651/gq/ - Gear Queer - Tactical Gear General Thread
Post gear. Discuss gear. Jinwudun Edition.
Old: >>64753799 [/k/thread/64753799#p64753799]
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Anon01/22/26, 02:01No.64785677
/gq/ Infographic Emporium:
https://imgur.com/a/gq-infographic-emporium-1-00-1lZ5xw6
Legacy Infographic Reserve: https://imgur.com/a/k-infographic-reserve-AIKzwWF>Last time on /gq/, Botach sold 100 expired plates. Anon wanted to buy a Jinwudun shield. Another one wanted a Jinwudun skirt. I went on a Jinwudun rant. Anon still needs a 50lb battering ram.>QUICK ARMOR GUIDE 2.151
CODE: * = active NIJ-cert, ^ = ICW / non-standalone, DND = do not drop / drop protection is sketchy, ** = military.
>Special Rifle Threat (M855A1, no M80):
Budget: Hesco T212 or L211
Mid-Range: Hesco M210
High-End: Hesco U210 or U211
>CONUS Minimum (M80, M855, M193):
Budget: Expired Hesco 3611C, surp SAPI**^, or Gilliam 6001
Mid-Range: Hesco 3612* or 3810*
High-End: Hesco 3811* or 3811LV^DND
Elite: Used Cercom CER-EMH**^
>CONUS Medium (M80 + M855A1 or BZ API):
Budget: Used Protech 2120-5
Mid-Range: Hesco 3411* or LTC 19513
High-End: Tencate CR6450SA or LTC 28780** or LSAPI**
Elite: VelSys PBZSA** or LTC 28791** or Hesco SC3812
Elite-Plus: Used Ceradyne MH3 CQB**^DND (10x M995) or used Cercom CER-SOPS**^
>Tactical Standalone (M855A1 + M80A1):
Budget: RMA SUCKS
Mid-Range: Used LTC 28550** / 28590** or Highcom 3S9M* (SAPI size only!)
High-End: Used LTC 28595**
Elite: Used LTC 28570** or VelSys TSA**
Elite-Plus: Tyr XHA4/S6/T(DND) or GEN 6 LTC TSA
>Level IV / CONUS High (.30-06 M2AP):
/pfg/: Used Protech 2014G or Gilliam 1023
Budget: Hesco 4403* (bare minimum)
Mid-Range: Hesco 4601* (+ Level III) or surp ESAPI**^ (REV. G-J preferable, adds M995 / 3x M2AP vs 1x)
High-End: Hesco 4800(DND), 4800LV^DND, or Protech 9812-R1(DND)
Elite: Tencate CXP-800 SA or Ceradyne SOF ESAPI MK.II**^DND
>Level IV+ / CONUS Extreme (Various)
Budget: Protech 2230 (fast M2AP, $300/set used)
Budget-Tungsten: Gilliam 8002 (.300 Winmag Swiss P AP)
Mid-Range: Adept Colossus (7.62x51 Swiss P AP) or REV. C XSAPI**^ (M993)
High-End: Rev. D XSAPI**^ (M993+)
Elite: Ceradyne 96034** (7.62x51 Swiss P AP?)
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Anon01/22/26, 02:05No.64785688
> Jinwudun
You should tell them that they have a lot of fans here and ought to buy an ad.
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Anon01/22/26, 02:18No.64785740
I swear the same faggot makes the OP for every thread on this board.
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Anon01/22/26, 03:53No.64785988
Hey, fellas. Total beginner here, looking for my first plate carrier. I'm looking for one that I can just buy and run with; comes with mag pouches and as close as you can get to a full kitted out setup. Came across the Vakarian and it seemed like exactly what I wanted, but it's sold out. Any other suggestions? I want something in around the $300 or less range, chinese is ok as long as it wont disintegrate. I'm 5'10, 220 and looking to run large steel plates btw.
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Anon01/22/26, 05:11No.64786195
Anyone here have experience with UR Tactical/OPS? specifically their plate carriers, pouches, and placards
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Anon01/22/26, 10:46No.64786784
just bought 400 dollars worth of tactical shit on temu.Am i fucked
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Anon01/22/26, 13:35No.64787065
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Famous now.
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Anon01/22/26, 20:29No.64788467
Daily reminder standalone multi-hit 7.62x51mm Swiss P AP protection (stronger than M993 / XSAPI) can be yours for only $314 / 8.3lb a plate. Straight from Gilliam's Garage.
https://gilliamtechnicalservices.com/products/model-8002-max-heavy-tungsten-rf3-silicon-carbide-ceramic-armor-plate
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Anon01/22/26, 22:22No.64788810
I made barricade penetrating CS rounds for my 40mm
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Anon01/23/26, 03:23No.64789722
Highcom Striker LIGHTWEIGHT ($849)
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EXFIL SL Ballistic ($1694)
I agree with buy once cry once but I'm having a hard time justifying spending an extra $800 to save half a pound. I guess the retention system is also better but still I can get that and d4 pads and still save $600.
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Anon01/23/26, 03:23No.64789723
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If you want to carry pills in the same bag you carry blister tape and band-aids, little 1oz bottles work well. You can kill the rattle by stuffing the bottle with food-safe filler like a paper towel. If the pills are in a blister pack card, just stick one of the cards in there.Ex: https://www.sks-bottle.com/product/306302.html
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Anon01/23/26, 17:30No.64791617
Damn, per Apex can't ship solutions LTC just discontinued the Level IV 26605.
https://www.apexarmorsolutions.com/product-page/two-hoplite-26605-triple-curve-level-4-sapi-plates-nij-06-certified?The only recent plate with the distinction of being suspended twice is... kaput. Apparently there will be a replacement but no ETA.
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Anon01/24/26, 00:55No.64793339
Do we have a consensus on the IHPS / NG-IHPS?
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Anon01/24/26, 04:01No.64793881
All excellent info on the IHPS. On another note, pic related is the situation with the Highcom RCH I mentioned earlier. Basically, Apex is doing the usual and is massively fluffing up the RCH's protective capabilities. Highcom's numbers are really no different than a basic ECH as pointed out by Neetmaster (?) months ago.
Anyone who is spending $2.5k for one of these, going off actual manufacturer numbers and not a guy who rates boron carbide plates like the LTC 26310 for M995 (this is egregious absent a test report because M995 has a reputation for piercing pure B4C plates - such as early ESAPIs), is seemingly getting played. I'm seeing ECHs on sale on fleabay for as little as $350. Don't waste two grand plus on this penny stock helmet.
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Anon01/24/26, 05:07No.64794069
Hey Neetmaster / Rusanon, pic related shows the "BR5+" Granit plates shot in those test reports from a few threads back.
1. Top left is the one shot with a 12.7x108mm at 559m/s.
2. Two others top row are the .338-tested plates.
3. Third row left is the 9x 5.45x39mm 7N39 plate. 7N39 really isn't that great of a penetrator (it's like Nammo AP4) so this isn't really contentious.
4. Third row middle is the 6x 7.62x54R 7N37 plate. For those that don't know, 7N37 is a basically "legendary" tungsten AP round that defeated the Adept Colossus in a Buffman test and is purpose-designed to kill XSAPIs. It has a unique reputation as an armor-killer since the start of the Ukraine thing in 2014.
I'm seeing white bits of ceramic, so it looks like these are indeed aluminum oxide and not silicon carbide as originally thought. Any thoughts on the shot spacing protocol?
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Anon01/25/26, 00:43No.64797890
This really needed an ai op pic... or did we all get three days from that ice agent gear queer thread
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Anon01/25/26, 00:59No.64797968
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Anon01/25/26, 01:08No.64798025
Cold weather jacket recs?I need an upgrade from my off brand real tree jacket to something decent for late season snow goose hunting and other winter activities. Been looking at Kuiu, Skre and first lite but I want to know what I'm on for before dropping $500 - $800 on one coat.
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Anon01/25/26, 03:00No.64798503
Most of my gear is in vietnam tiger stripes
can't find a dump pouch i like that matches and can be attached UNDER my mag pouches like the flatlinefiberco
should I get black or ranger green for pouches and stuff that I can't get in tiger stripe? There's lots of black on VTS so I was thinking that wouldn't look too out of place.
I know black sticks out under nods but there's already a ton of black on the tiger stripe stuff
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Anon01/25/26, 04:13No.64798702
Daily reminder not to buy thermals from ATN or any other manufacturer with wifi / bluetooth capability.
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Anon01/25/26, 05:41No.64798956
Unrelated, as of two years ago Ukraine and Israel both stopped taking Botach's battle steel plates as donations. Source is Tac11, which is technically a competitor but not really because they exist on opposite ends of the price spectrum, so do what you will with that information.
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Anon01/25/26, 05:50No.64798972
>Van Eck phreaking
Feds hate him! Learn how to stop the feds with this one weird trick!
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Anon01/25/26, 06:06No.64799001
Can anyone ID this backpack?
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Anon01/25/26, 06:09No.64799006
Does anyone know what this is called or where I can find another one?
It is a mag pouch that sticks to the inside of a plate carrier cummerbund, has velcro on one side and is padded on the other.
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Anon01/25/26, 06:35No.64799048
Does anyone make a clone of these or similar? My googlefu isn't getting me anything. Even better if the buttons are replaced with velcro.
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Anon01/25/26, 06:55No.64799090
Go birds
https://youtu.be/yEhcuRsfE9Q?t=7
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Anon01/25/26, 07:45No.64799215
jesus christ those jews that own crye tripled the price of the jpc in like 2 years
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Anon01/25/26, 12:57No.64799986
>“Body fat is the only piece of gear I can’t leave at home - and unlike my puffy jacket, it never seems to lose its loft.” — Anonymous
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Anon01/25/26, 17:10No.64800824
Has anyone ever gotten something good out of a Kommandstore gumball?
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Anon01/25/26, 19:17No.64801221
What about this fifty dollar all black katana from amazon for a pimp cane?
https://www.amazon.com/LQDSDJ-Japanese-Hand-Forged-Ferrous-Samurai/dp/B0CD825D1K/Could be useful. Pimpin' aint ever been easy on these streets. But now it's damn near impossible. The johns are wearing kevlar!
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Anon01/25/26, 20:46No.64801542
i juat shit myself
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Anon01/25/26, 21:21No.64801677
Also some armor related news.
1. The Tencate CR-6450SA is the same plate as the AT Armor STOP-BZ(IP) if anyone has those still lying around.
2. The Tencate CR-6400SA is the STOP-BZ original model.
3. There is a discrepancy between the CR-6450SA's spec sheet, which omits 7.62x51mm M80, and how vendors actually rate the plate. Answer is that it does stop M80 but it may somewhat exceed 44mm BFD, which is a fail in NIJ land.
4. The VelSys PBZSA has been around since 2015 and apparently stops M80 cold, unlike the 6450SA - which is more like the Hesco U210 / U211. Note that the U211 / U210 are somewhat different from cheaper Hesco SRTs like the old L210 - which M80 will blow straight through. All of Hesco's current SRTs - L211 / M210 / U210 / U211 / D220 with the exception of the Z210 will stop M80 but not fully to NIJ spec.Anyways, if you're looking at the 6450SAs since the PBZSA is playing hard to get and the LTC 28791's prices are jacked, consider running them with IIIA (frankly II will probably cut it) or an actually-decent trauma pad.
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Anon01/25/26, 21:24No.64801686
>64801677
Apologies for the double post, I forgot to include the T212 with the Z210. The T212 is a hard no-go against 7.62x51 / 7.62x54R threats, since it's the "true" successor to the L210.
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Anon01/25/26, 22:18No.64801986
What is a good ballistic helmet to buy? Anyone have an info graph for one?
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Anon01/25/26, 22:40No.64802082
Really cheap plate backers from Midwest. Be warned their shipping times can be asinine unless you blow them up on reddit.
1. IIIA: https://midwestarmor.com/products/mass-iiia-soft-plate-backers-set/
2. II:
https://midwestarmor.com/products/mass-ii-soft-plate-backers-set/
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Anon01/25/26, 23:53No.64802536
Thank you anons, what's the best way to use electronic ear pro with an ACH? Is there anyway to attach it to a rail system like a high cut helmet? Or do I need to be slightly uncomfortable and wear it with the band under the helmet
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Anon01/26/26, 00:06No.64802595
Videos on the GNG2K digital night vision goggle are starting to come out. For those not in the know, this is the successor to the Nvg3rd which is the successor to the NVG30.
Looks like they might have fibbed on the lux rating, it's not noticeably more capable than an Nvg30 and just has a higher refresh rate. It also takes an 18500 so it is down on runtime versus the more common 18650.
Ex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khGhbU5hfTY
Overall, it's better than the Nvg30 (60hz refresh vs 40hz is a major improvement) and a similar price, but digital NV definitely still isn't "there" yet. The much more expensive Nvg90 is a total flop so far - probably because it intrudes into entry-level analog prices.
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Anon01/26/26, 01:09No.64802839
FYI, Offbase.co has VelSys PBZ-SAs back in stock. They're multi-hit BZ API / 7.62x51mm M80 / M855A1 plates at 4.15lb SAPI M / 0.52" thick. $2.2k a set. Basically a straight upgrade from the Hesco U210 / U211 in every way.
https://offbase.co/products/velocity-systems-7-62x39-api-bz-multi-hit-stand-alone-rifle-plate
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Anon01/26/26, 07:42No.64803784
should I take my chances with the Gilliam 8002 plates?
I realize it's literally trusting my life with a brand without certs, but they seem so good for the price
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Anon01/26/26, 10:40No.64804249
Anyone besides Rothco still make complete riptstop BDU's in Urban M81?Rotcho's pattern just doesn't look right for OP Urban Warrior larping
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Anon01/26/26, 12:13No.64804512
Fite me
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Anon01/26/26, 17:16No.64805406
Talked to LongFri at shotshow
They keep trying to sell the pure poly level 3 plates but nobody wants them
They did regale me with tales of their level 4 performances in ukraine on both sides which was nice
RF3 rating is waiting for NIJ due to the backlog and taking forever but it has passed the RF3 testsBut as a whole nothing new coming from them otherwise.
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Anon01/26/26, 23:04No.64806742
Not to detract from the a1 discussion but is the existence of m993/m995 really that much of a concern? As I understand it, it’s not really common. Could it be used as a benchmark? Sure.
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Anon01/26/26, 23:07No.64806756
For armor deals of the week, Hudsongunner still has the following plates in stock:
1. Protech 2014G Level IVs, single curve. These were competitors to the Hesco 4400 back in 2017. $225 a set. If you're broke this is the cheapest option you have for basic Level IV protection which isn't sketchballs.
http://hudsongunner.com/protech-2014g-level-iv-stand-alone-rifle-plate-set-of-2/
2. Protech 2120-5s - III+, multi-curve. Good for 6x M80 or M855 on paper, were tested to also stop 6x M855A1 but I don't have an exact velocity number. 5.8lb, $275 a set.
https://hudsongunner.com/protech-2120-5-level-iii-stand-alone-rifle-plate-set-of-2-1011418/
3. Ceradyne Defender 550s, SAPI L or XL for $265 a set. I have confirmation from an old Crye catalog these are Level IV. I'm concerned about delamination so maybe avoid these.
https://www.tacswap.com/post/68d33774ce59b3e6f6e5a93bAlso, may I introduce the latest B-list armor company. Run by dollar store Ryan Reynolds... Hudi's Tactical! (pic rel)
It's a B-grade Chinesium shop. Typical undersized strike face using rectangular tiles. 10x12 plate has 9x11 ceramic. Layup is similar to Jinwudun but the reports are a little better. Backer is good for IIIA in the event the ceramic is bashed up. The Alumina III+ is M855 / M193 / M80 (2x of each) at 5.2lb / $260/set. Level IV is 6.4lb / $330/set. I see drop tests for neither plate in actual lab reports. Plates are thin so that's suspect. Buff tested the III+ to hold up against M855A1 and M80A1 (barring one unfair hit of M855A1), but he's an affiliate, as usual, so I do have to somewhat discount his test. The video is four years old and the plate's weight is about 0.4lb lighter than advertised.
Keep in mind that if there were no cheat rings the weights would be ~6.1lb for the III+ and about 7.5lb for the IV. I think Gilliam has them beat. Cheat rings are still, IMHO, automatic disqualifier.
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Anon01/27/26, 03:25No.64807781
Breaking news from last year. M855A1 is now 400ft/s faster.
https://soldiersystems.net/2025/02/12/sig-sauer-global-defense-range-demo-day-ammunition/
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Anon01/27/26, 04:05No.64807957
if I only eat mres for a year what will happen
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Anon01/27/26, 04:08No.64807968
Should I get the Protech 2230s?
how concerned should I be of them being old?
everything else under 1000 dollars seems like shit
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Anon01/27/26, 14:41No.64809178
Do you know a placard that can go form 3mags with a bit of admin in front, to 6 mags ?
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Anon01/27/26, 15:17No.64809290
Has anyone used the Holosun 221 or is sms the better buy?
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Anon01/27/26, 17:32No.64809757
Does anyone have recommendations for a plate carrier setup in urban conditions? Or can you share your plate carrier setup and why you chose it?
Also, if anyone has any setup recommendations for a potential home invasion by several armed/armored people, I'd appreciate your thoughts. I'm not quite at the level where I'd need an MG-3 mounted at the top of my stairs, but I'm getting close.
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Anon01/27/26, 18:20No.64809921
Also forgot to mention, if you are using dazzlers in any capacity, it is mcfucking imperative you wear laser eyepro. Brown lens is preferable. SPECS on ebay are super cheap, but you need enclosed goggles with the necessary OD ratings for full protection.
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Anon01/27/26, 19:52No.64810241
>The year is 2030
>The police have quit their jobs and are now collecting unemployment. Every single cop is now working under the table as a bouncer at a gay bar.
>ICE collectively got fired by president Newsom. They are now living in Mexico under assumed names and have formed their own cartel called Los Taco Bell.
>Cartels roam the streets. Anons in panic mode as a box of .22LR is now $35.
>Body armor is now illegal nationwide because another FBI-groomed dumb of ass gooner shot up a porn store in the name of an anthro dog
>Porn is also now VHS and DVD only because of Palantir social credit system judging you by your flavor of goon material.
>Body armor is illegal, entire autism ruined
>Anon now has no choice... but to buy BOTACH shields.
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Anon01/27/26, 22:28No.64810734
New flexible rifle armor on the block from Canada, III+ and IV. The IV seems stupid heavy.
https://www.aitacticalsolutions.com/product-page/cataphract-level-iv-flexible-plate
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Anon01/28/26, 17:15No.64813393
I asked in /hg/ but haven't gotten a response yet.
For OWB holsters, QLS, RRI, Blade-Tek for quick change? Pros, cons? Which one is considered the best? Current holsters I own are Safariland for my P220s and a Blackhawk Omnivore for when I get this optic mounted. Eventually I want a level 2 retention holster for my USP 45 w/ an X300 attached. My use case is for practical pistol course training and ultimately competition at one of the clubs I'm a member at.
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Anon01/28/26, 17:27No.64813429
i ordered 2 HSGI Gen 1 X2R tacos since they were cheap and idk i'm retarded but they seem pretty rough in terms of QC. the polymer on the other one is bent like 45 degrees inwards so it feels crummy to use, there are dangling bits of string and so on. the other one is more decent overall.i was surprised since i was under the impression that these were some of the better pouches available but they seem crudely put together. is this normal and am i just retarded?
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Anon01/29/26, 00:06No.64814597
Looking to get plates and a carrier. Are there any better options for around a grand than 11x14 hesco 4403s and the crye airlite SPC?
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Anon01/29/26, 00:17No.64814630
Anyone shoot some 4401s yet? Tryna remember what the hubub was about them other than Apex being a slimeball
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Anon01/29/26, 03:42No.64815162
>tfw this shit is literally unobtanium
