drawing with lines all my life - /ic/

Anonymous08/17/26, 23:33No.8018230

>drawing with lines all my life >spent 5 years of active practice and following drawing courses with lines >still fucking suck and have trouble grasping the full shape in my head before drawing it >can't project the final form or the silhouette into my lines and always have to liquify after putting them down >composition sucks when I finally color the piece with lots of stray bits that don't belong >say fuck it and start painting with with color and value blocks instead >shit just works right away >easily build up shapes and forms on the canvas and can preview the finished composition right away >work just has dimensionality with no extra effort or major redraws Now I'm glad that I'm not fully retarded to draw, but I still want to be able to draw well with lines since a ton of my inspo artists are lines-first or even lines-only Is it possible to transfer this knowledge back to lines somehow or do I just lack the ability to render stuff in my head in advance necessary for successful line drawing?

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Anon08/17/26, 23:35No.8018235

left is not drawing, but you are right. rendering is infinitely easier than drawing.

Anon08/17/26, 23:38No.8018240

>is it possible to transfer this knowledge back to linesNo. You're now just another rendermonkey. Which is fine. Not everyone is meant to be a lineGOD.Now if you will excuse me, I need to fill up another page of my sketchbook with 80 gestural cubes in fisheye perspective (with a fineliner).

Anon08/17/26, 23:44No.8018251

20 seconds to draw the same thing with lines vs shapes

Anon08/18/26, 00:24No.8018288

cool but i need to be a lines *GOD* to do watercolor tradplus is the picture even real?

Anon08/18/26, 00:27No.8018291

BRO YOU CANT GOOGLE LENS IMAGES OF NUDE PEOPLE ANYMORE OH MY FUCKING GOD

Anon08/18/26, 04:47No.8018462

Both look shit.

Anon08/18/26, 06:27No.8018533

Brother, who told you to draw like on the right. How are you expecting contours of blank merged shapes to provide an illusion of depth.First off take the principle of interposition from hogarth, picrel. When drawing a figure you have different natural forms in front of each other, and you can capture that by drawing overlaps as X/Y/Z of hogarths figure on the right shows. What you are drawing is A/B/C, the precise example he gives of what not to do. (Note hogarth is also using tone to fully explain the more rounded plane changes, but that's not the point of the drawing).

Anon08/18/26, 07:04No.8018557

Here, Gnass goes into the same thing. He identifies major forms (A, B) and transitional forms that inbetween them (C, D). The examples are quite extreme, but this idea always applies, even when a figure is standing straight up.archive org/details/nma-figure-drawing-with-karl-gnass/NMA+-+Figure+Drawing+with+Karl+Gnass/Part+3+Formulation/14.+Demonstration+7+(models+-+Monika%2C+Zeka%2C+Catherine)+-HB.mp4Also again, putting in some tone to explain the form can really help your understanding and make it more organic. What also helps for learning is drawing your figures like glass, as-if you can see through them. Once you can do dense descriptions like that really well, you can leave elements out. You can show the muscles working in places that you want to empathize and put less detail (merge the natural forms) in places that are in the background or out of focus.Isn't something like picel much more interesting than drawing the same blank figures out of the same mindless constructions over and over. And it actually aids you heavily when you decide to develop the figure further into a full rendering.

Anon08/18/26, 11:24No.8018636

>Is it possible to transfer this knowledge Nah not really. Line drawing is a separate and frankly more difficult skill. The ultimate test of whether you’ve actually understood the form and rendered it accurately is whether you can represent it as a pure line drawing. If the picture doesn’t look good as lines alone then you’re ultimately just fudging the end result and hoping the viewer falls for your tricks

Anon08/18/26, 14:45No.8018717

Why not just draw over the block-in? Line art does not necessarily need to be part of your sketch/design phase. There are plenty of line artists who start their sketches as painted silhouettes. Steer into your strengths.

Anon08/18/26, 16:19No.8018756

I watched someone on twitch do "line work" by painting with a white brush that would automatically put black outlines around the strokes you made. Yes, it looked exactly as shit as you'd expect

Anon08/18/26, 18:05No.8018831

It might be because of lack of imagination. When you are drawing with lines you need to think about volume not about just putting down the lines on the paper doesn't work.

Anon08/19/26, 22:45No.8020383

It's pretty much entirely an issue of being able to visualize before you draw, if you can't visualize beforehand your lines will simply never be good no matter how much you try, practice, correct or liquify themBlocking colors and values lets you experiment and find good looking results on the canvas but will also always be inferior to just being able to imagine good drawings in your head and just put them down

Anon08/23/26, 10:53No.8023668

Anon08/30/26, 16:36No.8029854

The morale of the story is that not all methods work equally as well for all people. Never fall for the dogmatic bullshit people spew out here.

Anon09/01/26, 00:18No.8030854

Honestly, what is this meme supposed to say?

Anon09/01/26, 01:41No.8030887

Anon09/01/26, 01:50No.8030894

Anon09/01/26, 08:30No.8031058

you guys are fcking weird

Anon09/01/26, 10:17No.8031078

you guys are all huffing some unnecessary koolaid

Anon09/09/26, 16:25No.8036953

Personally found the improvement after I did this to transfer atleast in part.

Anon09/10/26, 14:31No.8037667

even if you try to use lines for shading it won't be the same as someone whose training and understanding of form is based on lines. even pre-AI lines filter are going to be better.

Anon09/10/26, 19:30No.8037829

You may be more comfortable with a thing you created yourself.https://youtu.be/1OSWR7xiQLk?is=MJkNkQ45Wd3qsXHERepeat until you get something you want to draw again. Then draw it roughly like an animator might, getting a feel for their shape, stance and the space they occupy. Then draw your first formal portrait.