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Anonymous05/09/26, 21:34No.7937555
Is making a living as a comic artist a no go in the states?
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Anon05/09/26, 21:40No.7937566
the comic industry in america seems bad but i honestly have no clue
what's their work look like?
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Anon05/09/26, 21:52No.7937582
Without knowing the art and timelapse of his page, his rambling can or cannot be justified, it's subjective.
As an example, if OP takes his sweet time and a comic pages takes him the whole month, that page would cost $4.4k and yes it would be overpriced.
If he can churn two pages, each page would cost $2.2k, and so on
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Anon05/09/26, 22:01No.7937594
You're not entitled to a minimum wage if you're selling your own product.
If you were to hire someone, you have to pay them a minimum wage. These laws exist to prevent slavery, but you cannot enslave yourself, so there is no law for paying yourself less than minimum wage.Furthermore only a fool would pursue comics as a career and not a pipe dream. Your chances of success are tiny. It's like complaining that you pursued being a rockstar as a career and you can't pay the bills, nobody owes anything.
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Anon05/09/26, 23:00No.7937663
Yeah, it's tough, but what the hell can you do? You can't make people give you money. If people don't want to pay, then they won't. That's called a "failed business", and it happens all the time. Frustrating, but that's reality.
Anyway if I could recommend him something it would be to look abroad. Thankfully, you're not locked into your local for jobs in this field. He's skilled, I'm sure he can find work in Europe or Asia. Making minimum wage will no doubt still be an issue, but the struggle is part-and-parcel with the arts. It's not a comics thing.
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Anon05/09/26, 23:14No.7937679
Why not open a Patreon at that point? He is insanely good but has that wageslave mindset.
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Anon05/10/26, 02:38No.7937872
It's pretty bad. Being an indie comics creator basically mean you aren't going to make money. There's a lot of reasons for this, like comics distribution being absolute dogshit thanks to Diamond's fuckery relegating comics to specialty stores. Manga has more shelf space at stores like Wal-mart than comics(and the comics they do carry are big two slop), and there are no meaningful inroads to broad readership. When I was a kid, you could find floppies at EVERY checkout, from convenience stores to grocery and department stores and everything inbetween. Companies also don't make cheaply available comic anymore either; everything is printed on high-end glossy paper and costs upwards of $5 for 24 pages, half of which will be ads. And with the way suits look at stuff, creator owned comics that don't organically get big on their own first have no hope of ever seeing an adaptation that could bring more attention to them.
It's wild to me no one is making anthology comics on cheap newsprint, and pushing them at checkouts everywhere they can get them. Japan has shown it's a format that works, and the success of manga in the US shows there IS demand for comics, but no one seems to want to make it in a format that's affordable and accessible. So instead the big two are slowly spiraling the drain, with everyone else following them down.
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Anon05/10/26, 09:32No.7938053
Honestly move to a US city where houses are less expensive unless you have an industry job
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Anon05/10/26, 11:08No.7938091
>Fuck the big corpos, I'm gonna sell directly to the people.
>Fuck the people, they won't pay what the big corpos do.
>"Hey, faggot scab, stop undercutting me. What are you, a big corpo?"
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Anon05/10/26, 11:13No.7938093
Why not get a domain name, make your comics and post them there, gather a following, and peddle merchandise to them?You own your Intellectual Property, and keep every dime of profit.
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Anon05/10/26, 11:25No.7938102
if this kind of skill is struggling for work in the comic industry, imagine all the /permaprebegs/ delusional at a shot at being professional artists lmao
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Anon05/10/26, 13:41No.7938180
Art simply ain't valued in the West anyone.
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Anon05/10/26, 15:23No.7938265
>Is making a living as an artist a no go?
ftfy
The starving artist trope is real, only the top 1% makes it financially
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Anon05/10/26, 15:42No.7938274
I'm amazed at how many of you retards are willing to blame a single artists' supposed lack of skill when the vast majority of you can't even properly draw a Loomis head. The majority of people don't buy comics anymore and even when they try to get into comics, they find the barrier to entry too difficult (i.e. "where do I start," "how do I get into Marvel/DC," etc). With manga, you just need to start with the first volume. It also doesn't help that when a comic finally gets adapted into a show like the Walked Dead or The Boys, the original story is treated as just a template, not a story that should be faithfully adapted. Why do you think the Walking Dead has seven different spin-off shows? Comics just don't have the same level of respect (which also means investment) here in North America as they do in Asia. Of course it's going to be impossible to make a living as a comic book artist and writer in America when it doesn't have the same cultural impact it once had, especially when you're also competing with Webtoons/Webcomics, indie games, and indie animation in a globalized market! This is coming from someone who is sick and tired of bugged-eyed anime characters everywhere, but I have to deal with it because it has mass appeal and the majority of it is very marketable and normie-friendly.
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Anon05/10/26, 23:59No.7938598
imagine being a mangaka, americans are as soft as a pudgy fat kid
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Anon05/11/26, 01:08No.7938625
>American comic artist complaining about Americamany such common cases
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Anon05/11/26, 02:04No.7938653
Start local. Make a small goofy comic, print it out, and leave copies in places like headshops, tattoo parlors, or anywhere that fits the vibe. Add your website or contact info so people can find more of your work. It's usually less saturated than posting online, and you will have to put some investment into it, but people are more likely to remember something they physically picked up.Also, talk to people about it. Be excited about your project. A lot of building an audience comes from the energy you bring to it.
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Anon05/11/26, 03:28No.7938709
>prices
If that artist put half as much insight into their indie comic's story as they did their shitter sob story then they would have a more successful indie comic.Nobody gives a shit about how pretty you can draw character-in-a-void if you don't have a good story.
Go on, test my theory, I'll give you easy mode
>think of a popular traditional artist you like
>what can you recall faster
>title of 5 of their works
>or
>an anecdote of their life
On top of that, most indie books need to be edited with a claw hammer before they get anywhere near a printer but most indie artists are only so because they would consider that an affront to their special turd baby.
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Anon05/11/26, 08:49No.7938837
anyone committed to drawing superhero slop and blizzard slop in current year is probably unpleasant and a little pathetic irl. it doesnt even make as much money as simpler forms and rendering so they are usually just manchildren who never bothered to learn different styles, probably really hard to work with.
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Anon05/11/26, 09:41No.7938857
who posted this, their online personality and how they interact with the audience matters and should be revealed.