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Anonymous05/06/26, 17:26No.7934269Japanese Doujinshi Envy
A lot of people envy Japanese animators because every other nation's cartoon industry is a smoldered pile of rubble by now.
But what I personally envy is doujinshi culture. Every city has their own community of artists who run conventions where you can interact with local artists and sell your artwork. The best America has are small zine fests which are usually inhabited by snoody snoodsters and commie art appropriators
Anyone else feel this way?
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Anon05/06/26, 17:43No.7934286
America has anime conventions, same exact procedure to become an exhibitor. The only thing we lack is 18+ conventions so people can avoid minors. But right here
>very city has their own community of artists who run conventions where you can interact with local artists and sell your artwork
you're lying that the west doesn't have an equivalent.
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Anon05/06/26, 17:59No.7934296
It doesn't really matter anymore, since I have internet. I don't want to interact with random strangers. I just want people to see my drawings, and the internet can help with that.
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Anon05/06/26, 18:52No.7934354
What's stopping you from making anime zines?
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Anon05/06/26, 19:03No.7934365
japanese copyright holders have this implicit unspoken understanding that fans making money selling porn of their characters is basically free marketing for their franchises, in the west, you'll get sued pretty quick selling porn of western characters, I really don't know how artist alley artists in the US don't get DMCAed by crunchyroll and sony who have a defacto monopoly on localization licenses.
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Anon05/06/26, 19:39No.7934404
I'm gonna be blunt: the Japanese have this because Tokyo is the most densely populated city on the planet, that's why you can make entire conventions dedicated to doujinshi and get tons of talented artists and fans in the same place at the same time, they also have a pretty much dedicated website for doujin works in DLSiteIn the west you have what, Itch.io, limited spaces in general conventions and in some countries really obtuse obscenity laws
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Anon05/06/26, 20:07No.7934435
Anyways, the animation industry is the same thing as the doujin market. Most of the world follows an economic theory according to which it's good if the entertainment industry doesn't produce anything, that being the logical conclusion of a market where producers want a higher market share at the cost of a smaller market overall, and an excellent way of enforcing that is to pretend that animators become directors which automatically means that there are only as many animators as there are directors, which requires purposefully limiting the amount of people who can get into the industry.
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Anon05/06/26, 21:53No.7934552
>The best America has are small zine fests which are usually inhabited by snoody snoodsters and commie art appropriators
Then attend those and be part of the change you want to see. Though I do get you, Zines have an air of art-school pretentiousness that attracts those sort of crowds, despite zines really being anything about anything you want.
Hell, start your own event - the original comic conventions were hosted in people's basement and homes.
These days, people are too dispassionate and would find that too inconvenient to do.
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Anon05/06/26, 21:55No.7934555
I love doujins, I really wish western countries had doujin culture. I try to collect as many as I can but the shipping fees are usually extortionate so I limit it to one or two hauls a year. Some of them are so beautifully made, not talking about the content inside the doujin but even just the materials used are so high-quality I'm really careful not to let the edges whiten or let any damage happen to the doujina.
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Anon05/07/26, 00:16No.7934658
Japan cocksucking thread number 12325334
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Anon05/07/26, 00:24No.7934663
you need start the movement from online then make it physical when you have enough following. It's harder to force the issue to be physical to be honest. It's all your ability to complete your work before deadlines.Don't worry about that Nintendrones or Japanese coming after your ass. Just make the first doujinshi/fan work completed lmao
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Anon05/07/26, 02:27No.7934759
> The best America has are small zine fests which are usually inhabited by snoody snoodsters and commie art appropriators
I was part of a zine/comic circle for a bit and we self published stuff, it's honestly just a matter of showing up and doing work. One member of the group started an art group in his neighborhood that is growing, a couple others have been tabling consistantly at local shows. Most everything we've made is beg tier.
"Bee the change" sounds dumb but there's nothing stopping you from making a zine/comic, going around to local shops to promote it, then putting a call out to others in the area who want to do the same. Yeah, most of the people are lefty fags but they're also the ones who show up. Reactionary chuds want the system in place and then handed to them but that's not how it works.
Also if you're in bumfuck nowhere then start a group and try to connect with another group in a big city. Weeb shit is insanely popular right now, even in the little cities nearby there's at least one hobby shop all the stinky otaku congregate.
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Anon05/07/26, 04:04No.7934841
>The best America has are small zine fests which are usually inhabited by snoody snoodsters and commie art appropriators
If you don't want to do fairs or conventions, ask your local libraries to display and give out your stuff - maybe even make some decorations and display items for it. I think most libraries would love to help local talent, and see it as an opportunity to perhaps boost people coming in if they have unique content not found anywhere else inside.Alternatively, if you're desperate to make money, libraries may still do that for you, but cafes and local stores would be a better bet.
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Anon05/07/26, 21:57No.7935666
honestly i think the issue is that anglos dont give a fuck about things that arent big budget/franchise. a thoroughly domesticated people who will only by things that are highly produced and processed. even their food is processed, you cant open a street vendor cart in any of the big anglo countries without getting shutdown while they are ubiquitous across asia and the mediterranean which have much larger creator events like the ones OP is pining for.
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Anon05/07/26, 23:30No.7935726
It's hilarious how ameritrannies are so jealous of everything japanese, and when they try to imitate it they always fail miserably.
Let this sink in your little head, you'll never be japanese.
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Anon05/07/26, 23:44No.7935740
unless you plan on selling physical media, which is overrated, you should have no problem starting a webcomic. you could put them in a zip folder and sell them by the issue through ko-fi or e-junkie or whatever site hasn't been cucked by mastercard/paypal yet.your only main issue would be getting enough people to find your work, but that would be an issue even if you went to comiket with hundreds of other artists. my recommendation is to stay off of shitty social media sites and find a niche art website like furaffinity, itaku, or deviantart and gather a small but loyal fanbase.
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Anon05/07/26, 23:46No.7935744
I plan on making my own circle once [current project] is over
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Anon05/07/26, 23:50No.7935749
Why not connect with local artists who aren't complete fags, and start your own chudcon?
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Anon05/08/26, 01:39No.7935822
Your issue seems to be a lack of IRL art spaces that specifically cater to the type of work you want to create and consume. Either you make peace with being in a space not specifically catered to you or start curating your own.
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Anon05/10/26, 14:28No.7938224
Wow yea I also appreciate your rice faggot pedophile country having communities of rice pedophiles where they can discuss how much they wanna fuck the children drawing from the rice faggot pedophile comic book truly the west has fallen for not having faggot pedophile safe spaces
>inb4 m-muh Epstein
Get new material or preferably walk into a secluded forest and never return
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Anon05/12/26, 12:46No.7939522
You don't want to be an animator as a profession, especially if you're Japanese. Those kinds of shit is only appealing to school and college kids where they have a lot of time and little commitments