investigating orthodoxy

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Anonymous10/23/26, 07:55No.18753248
>investigating Orthodoxy >read first book by the Antenicene Fathers >immediately starts talking about the Phoenix as if its a real creature and says this is a representation of Christ found in nature Well that didn't take long
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Anon10/23/26, 08:16No.18753261
>protestant brain is too autistic to understand metaphor no surprise there
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Anon10/23/26, 13:13No.18753458
Lots of ancient people wrote about the existence of phoenixes. That's apparently proof jesus is the son of god, why shouldn't it be proof that phoenixes exist?
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Anon10/23/26, 19:30No.18753882
It talks about them EXPLICITLY not as a metaphor but as real being. For the record this isn't just an Orthodox issue. Read Martin Luther. The founder of Protestantism. He also, in a very literally sense, believed that elves existed. All Christians, all Abrahamicists are like this - that is to say, schizophrenic.
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Anon10/24/26, 03:21No.18754248
What if the Phoenix is real? Have you considered that?
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Anon10/24/26, 15:33No.18754842
>filtered by not understanding that even the early church fathers and Saints, even when inspired by the Holy Spirit, are still flawed sinners with limited understanding and only working within their knowledge at the time from what I remember Clement ends his second epistle by even referring to himself as a sinner that has a long way to go. You need to get past the faulty idea that every single thing written by a holy man is absolutely 100% perfect and that Saints are like perfect superhuman superheroes. A common theme throughout basically all of their writings is that they are not like this and don't think of themselves like this. In Paul's epistles he refers to all members of the congregations as Saints and in Orthodoxy the idea is that all believers are called to be Saints, as holy as possible, and simply just at different stages of holiness throughout their walks of faith.You can be considered a Saint and still think the Earth is flat for example, like St John Crysostom.It's likely not a metaphor, people at the time just believed it was a thing that actually existed as a fact of reeality; Clement presumably just didn't know otherwise and used it as an analogous proof of resurrection being a thing in the natural world to convince the readers of his letter/reaffirm their faith.