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Anonymous10/18/25, 18:20No.18084829What went wrong?
>let's create an orderly world of free trade and open borders so that goods and services and information can flow freely and unite the world in one global culture where the most talented people can move to the best run and most welcoming countries because every single person is full of potential and they just lack the means to express it
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Anon10/18/25, 18:26No.18084843
Hegel is what went wrong, as always
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Anon10/18/25, 18:28No.18084847
Imagine open your borders so millions indians can flood in.
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Anon10/18/25, 18:38No.18084876
As in every other political issue, it's about skin color and male-female relations.
>whites find browns ugly and don't want to get flooded by them
>browns are resentful towards whites bc of colonialism and wealth disparity
>men want to strip away women's rights to get pussy
>women want unlimited sexual freedom to whore around
The interplay of these four factors explains everything in politics today, and it's why Fukuyama's vision of liberal democracy is under threat
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Anon10/18/25, 18:45No.18084901
Overblown. The 19th and 20th century saw the rise and fall of monarchism, socialism, and fascism. Who's to say that in 100 or 200 years liberalism won't also be an ideology of the past? We can see it today with the rise of right-wing populism, authoritarianism, and the rise of China. If he was born 150 years ago would he also say that history has ended because the predominant ideology was european monarchism?
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Anon10/18/25, 19:20No.18085052
>one global culture where the most talented people can move to the best run and most welcoming countries
Here. It's an imperial delusion produced by hegemony to assume that non-Western people like Indians, Arabs, Africans, and Jews will magically adopt postmodernism rather than just weaponizing it to subvert Western nations from within.
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Anon10/18/25, 19:44No.18085126
Brown "people". Everything would be right if world was 100% white and yellow
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Anon10/18/25, 22:13No.18085551
That is exactly the world we live in. What's your point?
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Anon10/18/25, 22:20No.18085573
In my opinion what went wrong is the whole idea of "where the most talented people can move to the best run" because this ultimately creates a class of fifth columnists that want to apply principles from other countries to their own and often for ideological purposes, that have a negative impact on social organization within the most influential classes of a given country. This idea of a free trade open border globalism scenario makes the naive assumption that every single participant in said system is a collective hivemind and not individuals with conflicting interests that need to be culled by, paradoxically, protectionist, anti-globalist policy.
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Anon10/18/25, 22:40No.18085641
>What went wrong?
Brown people.
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Anon10/18/25, 23:06No.18085710
The vast majority of people are concerned only with their own sustenance and the survival of their immediate kith and kin. They don't care about "others" who exist outside their inner circle, except in the most abstract sense. They will work for the benefit of the "others" only if it comes at no tangible cost to themselves and their families. It has always been this way, too. People inherently only care about a small group, no more than roughly 100 people at most. They fundamentally do not give a shit about people outside their immediate in-group.So how do societies work, then? How do you build a society comprised of many thousands, hundreds of thousands, even millions of people? Basically, it's done with trickery. You have to create a shared identity. It's not enough to simply say "these people are your countrymen!" because countryman is still a category outside the in-group. It doesn't naturally engender any special consideration. So what the earliest nation-builders of mankind did, was create layers of metaphor and analogy, and utilized powerful social institutions to create dependencies which reinforced the inherently understandable metaphors of familial relation.To wit: the king is the father of his nation. Religious figures are referred to with familial address (i.e., father, mother, brother, sister, and in turn they call you "son" or "child" to reinforce the relationship). Everyone depends upon the priests for intercession with the divine, everyone offers sacrifice and tithe. This is a shared burden everyone in the community feels. If the neighbors who have no blood of yours also call the priest "father" and also share the burden of sacrifice, then it sort of creates the illusion that you are a family, no? Kings do the same. The king is the father of his nation, and often kings and priests were the same in the oldest civilizations to compound this patriarchal structure. Tithes, taxes, familial piety turned into societal obedience.
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Anon10/19/25, 07:21No.18086686
>the most talented people can move to the best run and most welcoming cities (let's be realistic, they're not really spreading evenly throughout countries)
okay, that's great if you're one of those talented people, or someone who directly benefits from their talents
But what about everyone else? In the source countries you get brain drain, in everywhere but the top tier cities they move to you get parts of the country being left behind, even in those cities themselves you get upward pressure on rents pricing people out.
I don't think migration or free trade are bad in and of themselves, but it has winners and losers, and when all you offer the losers (who may very well outnumber the winners, especially if it's not coupled with giving them a share in the economic growth these policies create through redistributive economic policies) is contempt no shit they'll move towards more nationalistic/restrictionist positions.
t. migrant
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Anon10/19/25, 13:20No.18087175
> forced globalism destroys unique cultures and turns everyone into rootless consumer drones
> open borders just means your job gets outsourced and your town gets flooded with third worlders who hate you
> "most talented" my ass it's just corporations importing wage slaves to drive down pay
Muh potential is cope for replacing your people with more obedient workers.