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Anonymous10/18/25, 01:44No.18083067
This is a follow up thread to the one that the jannies shut down. One of the anons basically just spat the same revisionist talking points I criticized, basing the prevalence of hunter-gatherers in Sub-Saharan africa on MODERN HUNTER-GATHERER groups in twenty twenty fucking five which is really ignorant and illogical thousands of african ethnic groups were either absorbed or wiped out in the later 19th and 20th century. You leftists revisionists do this brainlessly without even using basic logic.
Pic related are the Chabu people in the southern Ethiopian highlands, it is extremely likely that they were entirely stone aged people because of isolation in the 19th century, they were also traditionally hunter-gatherers, they lived in mountainous rainforests completely cut off from even the primitive Nilotic peoples of the region. They also speak a language isolate.
I can also provide hundreds of photos of average 19th century africans not Mohammedan wannabees, average africans without external influence. Real africans that got around almost completely naked or actually naked, wearing animal skins and using stone technology.
The left and afro-centrists are professional liars and cherry pickers.
>Why make up so much bullshit?
Bullshit hey? ok I'll show you evidence leftoid
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Anon10/18/25, 01:51No.18083077
>Bullshit hey? ok I'll show you evidence leftoid
There are thousands of firsthand accounts of cannibalism in precolonial Africa even colonial Africa and modern Africa for instance.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/aug/17/congo.theobserver
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niemba_ambush
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/torture-murder-and-cannibalism-how-two-un-men-died-in-congo-107114.html
https://manchesterhistorian.com/2015/liberian-civil-war-cannibalism/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindu_atrocity
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Anon10/18/25, 01:55No.18083087
I told him that people at home generally believed that these [accounts of cannibalism] were only ‘travellers’ tales,’ as they are called in our country, or,
in other words, lies. He then said something to an Arab called Ali,
seated next him, who turned round to me and said, ‘Give me a bit of cloth, and see.’
I sent my boy for six handkerchiefs, thinking it was all a joke,
and that they were not in earnest, but presently a man appeared,
leading a young girl of about ten years old by the hand,
and I then witnessed the most horribly sickening sight I am ever likely to see in my life.
He plunged a knife quickly into her breast twice, and she fell on her face, turning over on her side.
Three men then ran forward and began to cut up the body of the girl;
finally her head was cut off, and not a particle remained,
each man taking his piece away down to the river to wash it.
The most extraordinary thing was that the girl never uttered a sound,
nor struggled, until she fell.
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Anon10/18/25, 01:58No.18083090
this one looks ready to do some cultural enrichment
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Anon10/18/25, 01:59No.18083091
Nakedness was the norm in africa despite what revisionists and leftist liars would have you believe.
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Anon10/18/25, 02:09No.18083106
Stone technology was just as prevelanty as metal in pre-colonial africa. Most africans hadn't even invented a hammer, the simplest of technology, they were still using hammering stones, a technology used by primitive hominids.
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Anon10/18/25, 02:10No.18083111
Stone tools used by the zulu
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Anon10/18/25, 02:12No.18083113
Stone tools used by Khoikhoi in South Africa. there's plenty of evidence that some of the San and Khoikhoi peoples lack metal technology all together especially in more isolated regions.
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Anon10/18/25, 02:14No.18083117
The people of the island of Bioko were an entirely stone age people only being introduced to metal when the Spanish arrived many of the Bube were still entirely stone age up until the late 19th century.
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Anon10/18/25, 02:25No.18083139
Some pygmy tribes also lacked bow and arrows using strictly spears and nets instead This would make them technologically equivalent to aboriginals as some of these groups may have lacked metal all together if they had no contact with bantus picrel. Not to mention that fact that bows and arrows were largely absent in southern Africa among Bantu groups even in the kingdom of Benin you've be hard pressed to find a bow.
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Anon10/18/25, 02:27No.18083141
Plenty of africans made clubs out of the bones of large animals yabaddabadoo!!!
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Anon10/18/25, 02:30No.18083145
if we now move to the nilotic people of East africa things get very very primitive. Nilotic peoples were only quasi metal aged, they made use of a whole myriad of stone age technologies.
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Anon10/18/25, 02:31No.18083147
We have thousands of first hand pics, drawings, films and written testimonials of natives during first contact in Australia, Africa and the New World. It's ackctually really cool reading them and watching as close as we can get to Ancient History on film.
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Anon10/18/25, 02:35No.18083154
First encounter records from the Spanish in the New World are insane. Not only are there all sorts of Stone Age folks ranging from thriving to starvation level subsistence, but the efforts and events the Spanish went to get there and back again were unreal. If you made a movie of it, no one would believe it.Check out journals of Juan Ponce de Leon, Hernando de Soto and Panfilo Narvaez. Really cool stuff.
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Anon10/18/25, 02:43No.18083172
The IRL Dr. Livingston's travel diaries are brutal, but very well written in perfect high Victorian English.He was an unironic Christian and softie that really did try his best to help as many folks as possible, but on EVERY page it's just constant Arabs marching black slaves around who were purchased from other black slaves who also had black slave. Although, some times they would just decide to stop working, like a mule and wonder off into the Bush. LOL!At other times they're litearlly butchering each other, especially the young girls and womenfolk, for various "reasons" and magical superstitions. There are many villages where dead bodies are strooned all over on pikes and racks, while folks just go about their business of scraping rocks out of the dirt.One of the most horrific parts is when some of the menfolk decide to literally butcher one of the adolescent girls, again for "reasons", so they tie her to a tree and slowly dismember her with dull, metal knives. Now, the scariest part of all was that she was so resigned to a life of abject hell and suffering, without the faintest sliver of hope, that she never made a single sound for the entire 10-15 it took them to cut her apart, saving her head for last of course, but dats dus dhey culture doh!Of course, black africans selling other black africans to Arabs is still alive and well and has never stopped in most places. In fact, when the British attempted to do so, it was the local african leaders that demanded it stay legal b/c it's dhey culture and biggest source of income. They genuinely don't even think it's odd, or bad, or wrong in any way. It's just the way life has always been, no different than buying and selling a chicken to them.
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Anon10/18/25, 02:43No.18083174
Now i will show you how similar africans were to aboriginals. in these images one of the weapons is aboriginal and the other is African. Guess which one is which. I'll provide sources to everything I've posted as well if you think I'm being dishonest.
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Anon10/18/25, 03:13No.18083241
Now I will show you just how brutal Africa was. it was quite literally a hellish place even in the so called civilized arabized regions brutal slavery existed that killed millions.
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Anon10/18/25, 03:14No.18083245
Reminder this guy is a filipino hapa mutt who spams this shit all the time
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Anon10/18/25, 04:15No.18083377
Picrel another sophisticated west african lmao
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Anon10/18/25, 04:20No.18083385
Lip plates were also worn in west Africa despite what revisionists will have you believe.
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Anon10/18/25, 04:23No.18083388
The idea that West Africa was somehow more advanced then the Congo or South Sudan is a lie.
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Anon10/18/25, 04:36No.18083412
Plenty of Africans didn't even develop a true hut. they were so primitive that they were still building basic dwellings that lacked walls this is abos tier. And this kind of "architecture" was also found in commonly in West Africa, all over the continent and it was not exclusively used by hunter-gatherers/pygmies
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Anon10/18/25, 04:53No.18083436
Jean Boulègue's analysis of the sizes of Sudanese armies is interesting. We can deduce that the Askias could in theory mobilize 40,000 combatants. Songhai had in fact three permanent army corps of nearly 4,600 men each, one in Tendirma under the command of the Balma'a, another in Gao under the command of Askia, and another in Dendi, the region downstream from Kukiya, the religious and historical capital of Songhai. This army corps located on the south-eastern border of the Empire being the least powerful of the three. The rest of the Songhai army was made up of the fluvial flotilla of 2,000 canoes commanded by the Hi-Koi, admiral and Minister of the Interior, one of the main dignitaries of the Empire. Contingents from vassalized kingdoms made up the bulk of the troops: Mossis, Dendis and Macinas provided the infantry. However, the arrival of the Moroccans cut the Empire in two, depriving the Askia Ishaq II of the Kurmina army corps and part of its flotilla, while the unrest at the borders prevented the Dendi army corps from coming in time.The civil war, which had divided the Empire, had also divided the army in two, Askia Ishaq II could not mobilize the forces of the West whose headquarters were in Timbuktu and Djenné, that is to say, behind the lines of Judar. In theory, he only had the two professional army corps of Gao and Dendi, part of his fluvial flotilla and Tuareg and Gourma allies difficult to estimate. The Tarikh al-fattash which offers 18,000 cavalry and 9,700 infantry also gives a more accurate picture of a Songhai army cut off from its professional contingents and more than essentially made up of a noble knighthood.
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Anon10/18/25, 04:54No.18083438
The Songhai armies are very unequally armed and equipped. Unlike the armies of the Mali Empire (1230-1468) which were made up of aggregate contingents of warriors free from their vassals, mobilized in the off-season on the same pattern as the medieval host, the Songhai armies since Sonni Ali Ber are made up of a nucleus of professional soldiers mobilized full time and for the most part from servile caste, owned by the Askias. It is these contingents of infantry that form the three army corps permanently stationed along the Niger River.In addition to the establishment of a standing army, the Songhai profoundly modified the armament and equipment of the permanent troops: the copper iron javelins replace the old spears, the armor equip the cavalrymen, the infantrymen are protected by breastplates in hippopotamus leather. Moroccan and Sudanese authors speak readily of "armor", implying iron armor, Songhai infantry and horsemen, which they wear under their tunics. Under the term armor, the Sudanese armies classify two types of protection: on the one hand solid gambesons, on the other hand coats made either of iron mail (worn in particular by the warriors of Kanem-Bornou on the model of cataphracts) or light iron plates. The uncertainty arises from the fact that we will speak in Sudan of armor, including for cavaliers equipped with gambesons, as the officers of the Voulet and Chanoine column and of the Joalland-Meynier mission will realize when they face the knighthood of the Sultan of Zinder (1899).
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Anon10/18/25, 04:56No.18083440
The Tarikh al-Fattash mentions one Askia (Muhammad Bani) raising an army of 30,000 men against rebels led by the balama. Not sure how reliable that number is.Jean Boulègue, The Wolof kingdoms in the Senegambian space ( 13th century - 18th century) ,Paris, Karthala, 2013 (posthumous), 504 pagesJean Boulègue, Les royaumes wolof dans l'espace sénégambien (xiiie siècle-xviiie siècle), Paris, Karthala, 2013 (posthume), 504 pagesJohn Hunwick's "Timbuktu & the Songhai Empire”
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Anon10/18/25, 04:57No.18083442
Apart from this mention of some kind of metallic armors by Barbot, there is also a mention in another 17th century source of the use of a different kind of armor by infantry in the Gold Coast region in the account of a certain Wilhelm Johann Müller.In the Gold Coast (basically what is now the modern Republic of Ghana) region of west Africa, armor was in use by some groups for centuries, before armor became mostly obsolete at some time in the 18th and 19th centuries. Given the nature of the environment, and going by historical evidence, the vast majority of soldiers in the forest and coastal area were infantry, with most horsemen really being located much further into the interior of the Gold Coast, such as in the kingdom of Gonja (which was actually founded by Mande cavalrymen who migrated to the region). The armies of the forest and coastal areas further south remained mostly infantry.One of these armor making groups in the coastal area was a certain subgroup of the Akan people called the Agona. I mentioned them in an older post, where I asserted that the Agona were a subgroup of the Fante; I am not so sure about that now and I think they may be another Akan group who were simply allied with the Fante, rather than actually being a subgroup of the Fante. In any case, here is the relevant quote from my old post:Müller wrote a fairly detailed description of the kingdom of Fetu, in the Gold Coast region, and two quotes from his description in particular are relevant.
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Anon10/18/25, 04:59No.18083446
"The military equipment and weapons of the Fetu people are of two kinds. With some weapons they set upon the enemy; with others they protect themselves against the enemy's strength. . .Whereas the arms and weapons so far discussed are arma offensiva, or weapons with which the enemy is attacked, they also have arma defensiva, weapons with which they protect their bodies. These are: 1. a shield, 2. a protective helmet, 3. a broad belt around their body almost square, although they are somewhat longer than they are broad. The wickerwork is bent slightly, so that the upper and lower parts point outwards a little. In the middle a cross made of wooden boards, about a food wide, is fixed. By this means the woven branches are reinforced and driven together. On the inner side there is a handle in the middle, made like a convex cross; through it they pass their left arm, with which they carry the shield. The shields are generally 5 foot long and about 4 foot broad.[239] Persons of high rank have their shields covered with ox or tiger skins, and the wooden cross covered with thin sheets of iron or brass plate and kept extremely beautiful and clean. The handle is decorated with several little strings coloured red or yellow. . .Little bells are also hung from it, and these tinkle noisily when the shield is moved. These shields are a powerful means of protection: with them they can receive a blow, a thrown hand-spear or even flying arrows from a bow, without these things injuring them. It is is remarkable to see how skillfully these people can use their shields. It is fun watching such things when they hold triumphal or festive games, at which they display all their military movements.
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Anon10/18/25, 05:02No.18083454
The protective helmet is not an iron helmet, but a cap made from the skin of an African animal called owullum. [241] The scales of this animal overlap so tightly that they can receive a blow without it injuring the head. Some make themselves protective helmets from a strong, scaly piece of crocodile skin and decorate it with two gilt horns, white teeth of a sea-horse or precious red shells; they may also hang from it a horsetail, black, white, or dyed red or blue.[242] The common man either does not cover his head at all, or wears on his head a cap made from the skin of an ox, cow, sheep or goat. They paint these on the outside with thick, sacrificial blood, which not only raises their standing in the eyes of the enemy, but, in their ungodly opinion, makes the caps stiff and firm. The broad belt which they place around their body above the hip is made of strong leather, stitched together in three or four layers. Some wear belts made of crocodile skin. This belt serves not only to protect the body, but also to keep the gunpowder and bullets in, and so they sew their cartridge-pouch firmly to the belt. Others wear their swords or sabres in their belts. Many of them, instead of using a belt, tie several fathoms of rash or say [245] around their body. Besides wearing weapons and pieces of armour, they also carry with them many cords, to tie up prisoners, and sacks made of bark, which they tie around their belts, to keep in them the heads they cut off."
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Anon10/18/25, 05:03No.18083455
"They also have special military emblems by which they are distinguished from the enemy. Each of the officers brings with him his musicians, who can always be heard drumming and blowing horns or tusks. . .Ovations and triumphs are an age-old custom, which has been practised by many peoples; and the heathen in the Fetu country also practise this custom; for as soon as they have gained a victory, they hold a great triumph throughout the country, especially if they bring home many chopped-off heads, which they carry on public display. In particular, each of the leading men has his personal days of triumph. On these days he adorns and clothes himself in the most splendid manner, together with all his people, bringing with them pieces of armour, muskets, assegais, sabres, shields, bows, arrows, musicians. . ."239. This description is very close to that of De Marees (1602: 46b). Cf. Bosman 1705: 186-7: 'These shields, which are about four or five foot long and three broad, are made of osiers; some of which are covered with Gold Leather, Tyger's Skins, or some other Materials. Some of them also have at each Corner an din the middle broad thin Copper-plates fastened on.' See Menzel 1968: 51-3 and n. 122; Barbot 1688 II: 119.
241. Cf. Appendix A 187. Müller may have been referring to the pangolin.
242. Cf. Barbot 1688 II: 119; De Marees 1602: 44b ('caps made of leopard or crocodile skin'); Bosman 1705: 185 ('a Cap. . .made of a Crocodile's Skin, adorned on each side with a red Shell, and behind with a bunch of Horse hair'). By 'sea-horse' Müller probably meant the hippopotamus. For the wearing of horns and tails, cf. Dapper 1676b: 65 = 1670: 433; Emden Acta 279a no. 55, Nieman 8.3.1684.
245. A fine, thin kind of woollen cloth. Cf. Barbot 1678-9: 48.
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Anon10/18/25, 05:04No.18083459
The source for these quotes above, and for the selected numbered footnotes (239, 241, 242, 245) are pages 192 through 199 of “Müller's Description of the Fetu Country, 1662–1669" in German Sources for West African History, 1599–1669 (1983) by Adam Jones.The references to "tiger" skins should be taken as references to leopard skins. Also, with the ellipses I left a bunch out that were not particularly relevant to the thread topic.3. In the Nupe kingdom, which was located in the central part of what later became Nigeria, there was body armor in use by some infantry soldiers. Armor was not limited to just the lifida (quilted armor) or sulke (chain mail) used by cavalry soldiers. From the image database of the Frobenius Institute, one can actually see an image of a Nupe spearman wearing some upper body armor, in a watercolor painting by the painter and illustrator Carl Arriens. Arriens accompanied Leo Frobenius on his 1910-1912 expedition to Africa, during which Frobenius visited the Nupe area. The image below is of a spearman in Bida, the Nupe capital, painted in 1911 by Arriens Hüfte.The description in English reads: "Man in Bida / Nupe area with trousers, long robe, armored vest, turban, lance and shield in his hands, sword on his hips."
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Anon10/18/25, 05:05No.18083461
It is important to note that the city of Bida, like some other important west African cities and towns, was destroyed by British forces during the British invasion and colonization of the Nigerian region. Part of the reason why we do not have more surviving examples of historical Nupe body armor of this type (in addition to the fact that such things might degrade over time if not specifically preserved and protected against degradation) is most likely because there was a very significant destruction of material culture from precolonial Nupe when the capital of Nupe, Bida, was destroyed. The spearman in the painting drawn by Arriens when he and Frobenius visited the city of Bida (the newer, or recovering city of Bida) was however continuing a preexisting traditional type of accoutrement for some Nupe spearman which did include upper body armor of some sort.
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Anon10/18/25, 05:10No.18083465
Also, it is unlikely that only Benin and Nupe in the Nigerian region had infantry that used armor. For example, in Robert Smith's book Warfare and Diplomacy in Pre-Colonial West Africa (1976) he notes that "two hauberks are preserved in the palace at Owo in south-eastern Yorubaland" (p 78). I have no doubt that several other groups in the Nigerian region did use infantry armor as well (in particular, I suspect that the Igala and the Jukun did) but finding more examples of or references to surviving armor that did not degrade and deteriorate with the elements would probably be very difficult.There is also some mention of body armor in Christopher Spring's book African Arms & Armour (1993), and if I recall correctly a few of those cases do refer to armor used by infantry rather than cavalry, but I don't have access to a copy of that book right now. Really what I posted above is just what I could recollect, access and post here most easily.
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Anon10/18/25, 05:12No.18083468
5th-7th century swords, daggers, and arrowheads from Kissi, Burkina Faso
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Anon10/18/25, 05:13No.18083470
5th-7th century swords, daggers, and arrowheads from Kissi, Burkina Faso.
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Anon10/18/25, 05:14No.18083471
1st-9th century chainmail fragments from Kissi, Burkina Faso.
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Anon10/18/25, 05:15No.18083475
African PoliticsThe Akan used a system of computing weight consisting of 11 units. It began at dama and ended with bèna. It was possible to multiply bèna by infinity and the values went from single to double or were multiplied by two. There were three series of weights – small, medium, and large. They could be added and multiplied.The small weights series consisted of ten monetary units and was used for all sorts of small transactions:ba = unit = 0.148 g
ba (gnon) = ba × 2
ba (nsan) = ba × 3
ba (nan) = ba × 4
ba (nou) = ba × 5
ba (nzien) = ba × 6
ba (nzo) = ba × 7
ba (motchué) = ba × 8
ba (brou) = ba × 10The medium weights series consisted of 7 units. The computation is done from simple to double, and each unit has multiples and submultiples.Assan = 4 m.v.
Gbangbandia = 4 m.v.
Tya = 5 m.v.
Anui = 5 m.v.
Gua = 5 m.v.
Anan = 5 m.v.
Tyasue = 5 m.v.
Total = 33 m.v.These 7 units comprise 33 monetary values. The smallest value is météba which equals 12 ba or 1.77 g.
The largest value is the ta, which equals 348 ba or 51 g of gold.In practice, the system worked as follows. For example, the gua, the fifth unit, comprised the following five monetary values:Météba = 12 ba = 1.77 g of gold
Adjratchui = 24 ba = 3.55 g of gold
Tra = 48 ba = 7.54 g of gold
These are all sub-multiples of gua.
Gua = 96 ba = 14.20 g of gold (Unit of this series)
Guagnan = 192 ba = 28.40 g of gold (Multiple of
gua)The large weight and monetary values series had only 3 units. They were:Banda = 384 ba = 56.80 g of gold
Banna = 432 ba = 67.44 g of gold
Pereguan = 478 ba = 71.92 g of gold.
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Anon10/18/25, 05:16No.18083479
In considering the weights and numeric representation, we will consider here only those weights with graphic signs which correspond with calculation and mathematics.Concerning the signs and marks, the anthropologist François H. Abel has written: “A. Amélékia, a well known man named Diénélou confirmed for me that the Ancients knew how to read from the weights... In the village of Lomo-north, in the region of Toumodi, the village chief knew that the signs on the weights had meaning.”An observer wrote : “Each weight is the product of two signs written on it... Reading it is sometimes simple, but often difficult. This is because some Black Africans had a different concept for numeric figuration and for the representation of the product of two numbers. [Also] zero did not exist...”. In the system, figures and numbers are represented by vertical and horizontal lines, such as marks and arrows similar to those still seen in charcoal in the houses of African villages. Commenting in 1605 on the Akan system of accounting and calculating, the Dutch explorer and historian Pieter de Marées made this remark: “The Negroes have weights of copper and tin which they have cast themselves, and, although they do not divide in the same way we do, it comes out the same, and the accounting is always correct.”
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Anon10/18/25, 05:19No.18083484
The weights provide knowledge of the weight and monetary value of the quantity of gold powder placed in the plate of the scale. There are three kinds of weights – figurative weights, weights with graphic designs, and geometric weights (Figs. 1, 2 and 3). Gold weights were (usually) made of an original alloy whose composition was similar to that of bronze and brass. However, there are also weights made of silver, copper, and solid gold. The weights were made by the Tounfouê, an artisans’ group, different from blacksmiths and jewelers. These artisans used the lost wax method to produce the weights.Mission from Cape Coast Castle to Ashantee: With a Statistical Account of that Kingdom, and Geographical Notices of Other Parts of the Interior of Africa
By Thomas Edward BowdichExcavations at Jenne-Jeno, Hambarketolo, and Kaniana (Inland Niger Delta, Mali): the 1981 Season
McIntosh, Susan KeeRecherches Archéologiques Sur la Capitale de L'empire de Ghana: Étude D'un Secteur D'habitat À Koumbi Saleh, Mauritanie : Campagnes II-III-IV-V, (1975-1976)-(1980-1981)
Sophie BerthierThe Medieval Kingdoms of Nubia: Pagans, Christians and Muslims Along the Middle Nile
Derek A. WelsbyThomas Gensheimer in "The swahili world" by Stephanie wynne-jonnesShanga: The Archaeology of a Muslim Trading Community on the Coast of East Africa
Mark Chatwin Horton, Helen W. Brown, Nina Mudida
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Anon10/18/25, 05:20No.18083485
1776. British abolitionist Thomas Clarkson referred to him in a letter of 1789. Rudolph T. Ware's book, 2014:https://books.google.no/books?id=gRGpAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA116&dq=%22to+the+sovereigns+of+Europe+the+wise%22&hl=no&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi35pSRhavfAhVJ_KQKHcUlACAQ6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q=%22to%20the%20sovereigns%20of%20Europe%20the%20wise%22&f=falsethe fulani jadis -notorious for the creation of the sokoto caliphate were initially abolitionist
the first modern anti-slavery laws were made in the imamate <state> of futa toro by almami <king> Abdul Kader ' in 1780, two decades before the british"The Walking Qurʼan: Islamic Education, Embodied Knowledge, and History in West Africa"Rudolph T. WareAbdul KaderPlantation Slavery in the Sokoto Caliphate: A Historical and Comparative Study
by Mohammed Bashir SalauIslamic Reform and Political Change in Northern Nigeria
By Roman Loimeierhttps://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Islamic_Reform_and_Political_Change_in_N.html?id=_RLEcWL45W8C&source=kp_book_description&redir_esc=yUmar alkanawi
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Anon10/18/25, 05:36No.18083495
18083485
European hinges, locks and wheels. Totally no European influence there oh absolutely not.
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European filigree design kek, the Ashanti had close contact with the British even hiring a British engineer to build one of their palaces. Plus they had trade relations with the Portuguese centuries before that was made and also had obtained gold smithing technology from the Arabs indirectly through trade.Picrel a tribesman from ghana who lacks arab or european influence.
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Anon10/18/25, 05:40No.18083502
African State CraftTHE OYO EMPIREOYO ILE ( capital city) was divided into lineages, which were organized into wards. These wards were led by an oloye ( title holder ), leaders of seven nonroyal lineages who inherited their positions on the oyo mesi, a sort of senate like organization with the power to appoint and depose kings. The council was led by the Bashorun who was the representative of the aristocracy to the king and sort of functioned like a vizier or prime minister to the king. The Oyo mesi deposed kings in the most extreme of circumstances by having the bashorun present him with a calabash and uttering the words "the gods reject you, the people reject you, the earth rejects you" which then compels the king to commit suicide with his son and eunuchs.ALAFIN:- The king was called alafin which roughly translates to "owner of the palace".He was elected from 3 royal lineages who could "trace their descent" from oduduwa, the legendary first ruler of the yoruba peoples. The king was revered as semi divine, held supreme judicial power and possessed absolute almost despotic power over his subjects. All this was in theory however, in practice the king owed his throne to the oyo mesi, who could dethrone and replace him, as such he had to govern in consultation with them.
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Anon10/18/25, 05:47No.18083514
>Nakedness was common in Africa
>Post jungle village with a population of 300
>Kano city population: 40,000
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Anon10/18/25, 05:48No.18083517
Ibadan was a town founded in 1830 as part refugee camp, part military camp.The migration to Ibadan during the 1800s was due to the collapse of Oyo and all the subsequent conflicts that took place as a result. The expansion of the Sokoto Caliphate and lessening of the Atlantic slave trade also contributed in no small part to the violence that plagued 19th century "yorubaland."Of the various wars that took place during that period a particular one led a group of Oyo soldiers to occupy Ibadan as their military camp. This origin led the town to develop an interesting political system, unique amongst other Yoruba states. The concept of hereditary rulership and 'the divine king' were done away with, allowing Ibadan to become a military republic.There were a total of five lines to power within the Ibadan system, three military and two civil. The first and foremost of these lines was that of the Balogun. It was composed of senior military officers and generals and its overall head was a person bearing the title of Balogun, meaning "lord of war." The second line was called the Sekiri and it was made up of young military officers. Members of this line who distinguished themselves at the forefront of war were promoted to the Balogun line. The third military line was called the Sarumi and its members were cavalry leaders.
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Anon10/18/25, 05:53No.18083526
All important titles were non hereditary and were competed for by lineage heads called Mogaji. They formed a pool of candidates for appointments to junior posts.Of the two civil lines the most important was that of the Baale. Its members were mainly administrators not expected to join in wars. Though it was a civil line, it was still controlled by the military and its overall head, bearing the title of Baale was always a veteran. The only true civilian line was that of the Iyalode. Members of this line were female title holders who were not exected to serve in the military.Other organizations existed but they lacked the political power exercised by the first five. These were the Egbe Agbe (farmers guild), Aboke (priests of the Ibadan goddess), and the Ogboni (a secret society with some measure of influence).The premier Baale was chief executive in the exercise of power, though he was not absolute. He needed the consensus of all senior civil and military leaders on important issues. There were cases when civil and military power were combined in the hands of one individual but when power was split between the Baale and Balogun, the former presided at meetings.The council of Ibadan was called the Igbimo Ilu (town council) and was the supreme governmental body. The number of people in the council was flexible though there were ten permanent members which included leaders of the five mentioned lines.
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Anon10/18/25, 05:56No.18083533
Within their respective districts each group adopted modes of governance with which they were familiar----- that is to say, the political organization they had in their homelands before the crisis. Thus, Abeokuta became a city of cities with several similar but distinct cultures each administering their own justice and protecting their own interests.I centered on the Egba at the beginning of this post because although Abeokuta was made up of different sub-groups, it was the Egba who were most numerous. This meant that if you took a count of all the districts within the city, Egba led districts would outnumber all the rest, which gave them a more prominent role. Each district had its own Ologun, Ogboni and Parakoyi organizations, however, a common hierarchy of all three would be formed for the purpose of intracity interests and administration.The first of these 3 city wide councils to form was the Ologun, meaning people of war, council. This is unsurprising because defense from the wars going on in "Yoruba-land" would have been the principal interest of Abeokuta's largely refugee population.A common hierarchy of war leaders for all of Abeokuta was established by Sodeke. He assumed a large degree of authority as military leader of the city-state, but not even this prestige would grant him ultimate power. In order to see his decisions implemented, he organized a central council of military leaders from each district. The political power of this council declined after the death of its founder, Sodeke, in part because of his lack of a successor, and in part because military interest, with the exception of defense against Dahomey attacks, no longer took center stage amongst the issues Abeokuta had to solve.
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Anon10/18/25, 06:05No.18083546
British commander Forbes had this to say when he went to Abeokuta in 1852 to train their gunners and improve upon their fortifications:"Abeokuta has four Presidents. Each town has a warafa (Iwarafa) or civi council of six, and on an average 20 Ogboni or magistrates. It has also, according to its size, one, two or three Balogun or military chiefs. Hence there are in office ----- taking the towns at 140 ----- 840 principal chiefs, a "House of Lords," 2800 secondary civil chiefs or "House of Commons," 140 principal military chiefs and 280 secondary ones; and i hold this to be the most extraordinary republic in the world.``Forbes failed to mention the Parakoyi in this though it was an important institution even though lacking in political power compared to the Ologun and Ogboni councils.There's the formation of the Egba United Government by British colonial meddling as a means to bring both the institutions under a central governmenthttps://www.jstor.org/stable/180299?seq=5#metadata_info_tab_contentshttps://www.jstor.org/stable/1157085?seq=14#metadata_info_tab_contentshttps://www.jstor.org/stable/180370?seq=4#metadata_info_tab_contents
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Anon10/18/25, 06:09No.18083553
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Anon10/18/25, 06:15No.18083564
So far we got yoruba are arabs now lmao
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Anon10/18/25, 06:16No.18083568
Wonder how long before he post about igbo being jews are how the zimbawe ruins were king solomon’s gold mines
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Anon10/18/25, 06:28No.18083597
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Anon10/18/25, 06:33No.18083606
Okay anon greeks were actually all africans heres my sourcehttps://www.google.com/books/edition/Black_Origins_of_Ancient_Greek_Civilizat/RQiLjgEACAAJ?hl=en
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Anon10/18/25, 06:51No.18083633
Guys look arab influence see tassels
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Anon10/18/25, 07:09No.18083650
It's funny how the afro-centrist sperg comes in and does exactly what op says they do. Shits the thread of with cherry picked arab stuff then dishonestly claims the beliefs of actual Africans regarding their origins/history is not reliable kek.
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Anon10/18/25, 08:12No.18083708
YA’LL JUST EVILPERFORMING SPELLS TO GAIN SUPERPOWERSTALKING SHIT ON THE ORIGINAL HOMO SAPIENS
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Anon10/18/25, 08:42No.18083767
anything outside the horn and north of the sahara basically
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Anon10/18/25, 14:41No.18084369
>seething because your "stone age savages" narrative got BTFO
>cope by posting random pics of tribes from the 19th century like it's a gotcha
>completely ignore that ironworking was invented in Africa independently around 1000 BC, you dumbass
Your own "evidence" shows the Chabu were in contact with neighboring agriculturalists for centuries, not "completely cut off". Confusing "didn't adopt European clothes" with "no technology" is the most smooth-brained take imaginable. Stay mad, your racist fanfic is still wrong.
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Anon10/18/25, 14:43No.18084373
bumping
good info here
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Anon10/19/25, 02:47No.18086249
Ww2 really is the most boring memed overdone war that exists which is why his spams it.
His fixates on death toll. The civilian death toll. The military death toll in WW2 as KIA on the Soviet side was five million. It wasn't a lot. WW1 had more. The taiping rebellion, Napoleonic and Russian civil wars each had 2/3 as many deaths. The number of deaths was not a lot more than other wars that his completely ignores.
The bomb volume dropped in ww2 was a lot less than Vietnam. The bomb volume was less and the air warfare was a lot less. The air to air warfare was limited to battle of Britain and Pacific which his ignores anyway. Eastern front was the worst for air warfare.
WW1 had many more artillery shells fired than WW2. Where the big discrepancy comes in is in tanks.
WW2 had only one large tank battle (Kursk). Because his doesn't discuss Kursk it actually doesn't discuss anything about WW2 at all. It just spams lend lease black cock American bullshit. Hitler spam. Random race spam.
Wikipedia had a edit war to hide Yamato sinking itself.
WW2 just isn't an especially consequential war. No new countries and nothing new happened as a result of the war besides making the cold happen faster. It really had no effect on history. It is of interest just because it's an event his is aware of and his is too dumb to be aware of anything else. Even the size of the war wasn't a lot more than other wars that were more important.
There's no way for his to shut up about WW2 because it's video games and YouTube tards and whatever his watches all day focus on WW2 alone, and not even the interesting parts but just the leaders and bureaucracy, so WW2 spam will continue until mods finally delete this board to prevent your brain activity from falling so low your brain stops sending breathing signals.
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Anon10/19/25, 12:38No.18087093
OOGA BOOGA
