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Anonymous02/06/26, 11:18No.11468275Matriarchy/Reverse Gender Roles
Amazing /d/iscussion last couple threads, please keep it up
Previous: >>11449168
QOTT 1: Do you prefer wholesome and sweet stories, or fucked up and brutal ones?
QOTT 2: Why did the matriarchy happen?
Notable works (please suggest more): https://mangabuddy.com/the-world-of-moral-reversal/chapter-1
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Anon02/06/26, 11:31No.11468283
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Anon02/06/26, 11:32No.11468284
>Women need to not just be bigger, but be an amazonian 7-8 foot in size, to be able to hunt, fight, compete with females, and mate with males, whilst being multiply pregnant.
>As a coincidence, childbirth is much easier.Could be pseudoscience or not, but...
>There's less drive for women to interact socially or emotionally with men, as men tend to lose their personhood over time spent with them.
>You can't employ a male, because it could be harmful to him, and his capacities will go down along with his personal identity.
>They already tend to latch on as codependents in interactions anyhow. That just gets worse the longer it lasts.
>When women go for a husband, personality is very much secondary to abilities and physical characteristics. Those won't change over time, but his behavior will mold itself to hers.>Wheras for a male, it's EXTRA important to be chaste when dealing with members of the opposite sex.
>Fleeting personal interactions. If you date, you date once a month, at bare minimum, so you don't start orbiting her until you're absolutely sure she's the one.
>Finding a girl who cares for you is incredibly important, as your life and personhood will be less and less about your personal interests, and more and more an extension of hers.
>Going out at night, or anywhere by yourself, is always incredibly dangerous. Women can't see it as a reasonable risk, but being kidnapped and turbo-stockholm'd to your kidnapper would be a life-ending event. No one wants to have ones life orbit helplessly around a woman you hate and/or fear, until you don't have the personhood to hate or fear anymore.
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Anon02/06/26, 20:21No.11468441
the rules say i am not allowed to complain about 4chan staff so i won't
time to post 4 more pics so the thread stays up i guess
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Anon02/07/26, 09:52No.11468704
I could see an alternate history working where somehow some plague or forever war wiped out like 70% of men, and while our population bounced back, the men that were left behind were mostly nervous/anxious/lithe/slim nerdy types, and combined that with the extremely attractive women who all wanted to fuck them to death, this naturally leads to most men being born after that also being smaller and more feminine, and generally more emotional nerdy and empathetic.
This also leads to women having to pick up the slack, temporarily destroying gender roles and leaving men to be the ones fought over.
This shift lasts a few decades until like two generations later when it's finally almost corrected.
However at that point the world's changed significantly, men are now on par with if not weaker than most women, with women now courting them rather than them courting women, combined with their generally more docile nature, and the fact women essentially ran the government as a matriarchy to introduce laws to protect the at one point small male population, they're often denied dangerous work/no longer conscripted.
This also leads to a sub culture of men forming who are similar to men of the past, which is now NOT the norm, and vice versa for females. Basically tomboys and femboys reverse and now you have some bitch on social media wishing she could find a "femboy" BF who would play videogames with her, bully and tease her, and softly dominate her.
She's then called a lesbian by other women.
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Anon02/07/26, 16:07No.11468804
Take that shit manga off the op retard. Nobody but you likes that shit.
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Anon02/08/26, 04:42No.11469012
>King takes his new wife to the World Leaders Summit
>The big shots at these events are the representatives of the sole super power, the Matriachy
>leading men usually spend this event sucking up to those women to ensure a somewhat stable relationship between his country and the matriarchy. Less his country be next on the annex block
>while the matriarchal women are usually dismissive of the King at this event, they're COMPLETELY ignoring him this year. Instead recognizing his Queen as the defacto ruler and only adressing/treating with her.
>because the matriachy dominates the conversation, him being effectively kept out of it means even other male leaders are ignoring him in favor of the woman who clearly speaks for the kingdom.
>relations between the matriachy and the kingdom improve
>as the King and Queen continue to have meetings with matriarchal reps, he's traeted more and more like a mere servant. Not even being allowed to sit at the discussion table.
>Eventually the Matriarchy invites the new Queen for a tour of their country. She'll serve as guest of honor in a number of events and be offered guidance at becoming a truly Confident and Effective Matriarch by the most powerful women in the world.
>The "king" is to attend this tour as her slave, and might be disciplined whenever the Queen asks
>King tries to push back on this but the Queen insist she wants to go through with it, and he HAS to come with her per the conditions
>When the king begins to argue, the Matriarchal diplomat quickly shuts him down. Telling him the Queen has their full support and the Amazon army will be deployed if be disobeys her.
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Anon02/08/26, 18:34No.11469238
What would be a realistic use case for a milking station? And how many men to women would be the ideal ratio in a matriarchy?>Do you prefer wholesome and sweet stories, or fucked up and brutal ones?
I'm a huge fan of free cities so brutal matriarchies are my thing.
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Anon02/09/26, 05:51No.11469507
NEED someone to talk to me like this
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Anon02/09/26, 11:39No.11469564
Ejaculation is what?
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Anon02/09/26, 13:19No.11469589
That story mentioned in the other thread - out of cruel space - got me curious so I started reading. As anon who posted it said it isn't a story that exists for sexy times but it does touch a lot on what a female dominated (with unbalanced gender ratio) might look like for many different societies. Men lashing out because despite a life of comfort in a gilded cage a cage is still a cage, not matter how soft the padding on the bars is. Good stuff as inspiration for smut.
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Anon02/09/26, 14:20No.11469609
I've been lurking these threads, though it's not 100% my thing I've really enjoyed the worldbuilding and discussions. Here's something that may or may not interest people here.My partner once wrote a story for me about advanced cyborg implants becoming available, but only for women. Slowly over time women became more and more modified, until very little of them was organic.The story was written from a "women submit to their male human partner" but in the long run there was also a matriarchal aspect in that the average woman after a few decades of this was much smarter, faster and stronger than the average man. Men generally lived gilded cages, being pampered by their nearly robotic wives, but not really doing anything than serving as genetic randomizer for the next generation of humans. Because women are inhumanely smarter, they would dump heavy amounts of subliminal propaganda in all media to normalize that humans are a bimodal species, man and machine.We imagined that perhaps this is how alien reproduce, by converting new alien species to be machine cultists. In time religions might change, perhaps the story of Adam and Eve might change so that the punishment for eating from the tree of knowledge is that Eve is stripped from her humanity and Adam from his freedom.
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Anon02/09/26, 20:20No.11469746
Lean meat, fresh vegetables, plenty of fruit to keep his 'essence' sweet if one of his owners decided to engage in the debauchery of oral sex - indeed, a massive luxury to 'use' a breeder for such indulgences.So, of course, as powerful women his owners indulged in it regularly.It’s darkly comedic. In the rest of the galaxy, in the real world as he sometimes thought of it, performing oral was generally was a mark of consideration, of focusing entirely on your partner's pleasure. Not so with his owners. Even a blowjob was all about them in the end, the better to mark out their power and dominance over the world around them.
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Anon02/10/26, 13:29No.11470106
>be naturally submissive
>also tall strong, bearded, hairy
fuck me
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Anon02/10/26, 18:43No.11470197
In a long forgotten story I read a dude married a woman from a matriarchal society and upon moving to said country had to adopt several things, in addition to "the wife speaks for the husband";>men are to be naked at all times except for form fitting shoes
>men have to get a penis piercing (prince albert? I forget the real name) that means they HAVE to sit down to urinate
>the dudes wife would regularly masturbate him when he was to go out in public - this wasn't always the fun sexy kind but the clinical kind
>when the dude was getting his shoes fitted he was erect (being new and the sales woman measuring him up was arousing him) and pre-cum dripped on her uniform. She acted completely nonchalantly and in a bored way
>he was required to shave all his body hair because that is what his wife likedThe story was clearly written by someone into femdom but there was nothing truly hardcore about it, just a focus on men being 2nd class citizens.
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Anon02/10/26, 21:26No.11470266
Okay I tried spitballing a few pseudoscientific ideas into one concept, i need help because i think this could work>in our real world estrogen already influences mitochondrial biogenesis, meaning cells exposed to more estrogen tend to build more mitochondria and resist fatigue better (normally small differences but real)
>women on average already show slightly better fatigue resistance, oxidative stress handling, and muscle recovery compared to men
>in this setting a mix of environmental stressors (microplastics, endocrine disruptors, background radiation, chronic stress, warming climate) slowly alters human hormone receptor sensitivity
>a dormant regulatory gene linked to estrogen receptors activates and retunes estrogen from a reproductive hormone into a cellular energy master regulator
>estrogen receptors begin directly upregulating mitochondrial density, efficiency, and repair cycles
>women’s muscle cells now produce more stable atp with less cellular damage buildup
>faster recovery leads to denser bones via constant load adaptation and stronger connective tissue to survive increased force
>as connective tissue becomes tougher the nervous system removes protective strength limits and women access more of their natural muscle output
>instead of becoming leaner their bodies scale up frame size (back, hips, thighs, chest) to safely distribute higher internal forces while staying estrogen-shaped and soft
>muscles remain less explosive per gram than male muscle but total force increases because of higher recruitment and structural tolerance
>female fetuses begin growing larger due to enhanced placental efficiency and mitochondrial inheritance through the maternal line
>uterine tissue adapts generation by generation, becoming thicker, more vascularized, and mechanically stronger to handle higher birth mass
>pelvic structures widen and reinforce with denser bone lattice patterns
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Anon02/11/26, 01:31No.11470389
Reopening the polygamy discussion fromIn y'all's opinion, how many wives are realistic? How many wives can a boy have so it's manageable to live in the same house, go on dates all together, etc? 100 wives is an absurdly high amount, how can you fit 100 people in a house? let alone a restaurant table?
But arabs don't have that much of a problem with four wives. So there must be a limit somewhere.
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Anon02/11/26, 06:39No.11470537
Men getting dedicated wives is too restrictive for the woman's part. Women can take and release whoever they want and good men will roll with it, obeying the whims of women who want him while not expecting special access. It's normal and healthy for both sexes to have many partners over their lifetime, and for siblings to share mothers but not fathers (you can't always be sure who the father is, anyway).A healthy family will have a variety of children with different fathers and traits instead of being locked to one pair for life. Men are to be treasured and shared, but not to be bound to as if a woman is proposterously belonging to that man.
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Anon02/11/26, 07:02No.11470540
The fact that colourblindness is sex-correlated is food for thought.Though IRL it doesn't mean infrared or ultraviolet vision like some birds have, Some female humans can see in four colours
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrachromacy#HumansThere are also situations when women have stronger senses of smell depending on their menstrual cycle.I'd like to imagine a setting where women have highly elevated senses compared to men because of some genetic coincidence where colour vision and other super senses are recessive and therefore associated with female phenotypes and not male phenotypes.Imagine the power any predatory species would have if it had vision in the section of infrared corresponding to animal body temperatures. Women would have the ability to hunt, to notice threats, and to leave messages around that would be invisible to men. Depending on women and earning their support would be important for survival.A while ago I heard of cameras so precise that they could measure one's pulse and other vitals.While my first thought is that obviously such strong senses should belong to women, there is something cute about a man who is attentive to the health and workings of the women around him and can accomodate them accordingly.
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Anon02/11/26, 19:51No.11470790
Lesbian gynarchy where all males never go past shota age and all the girls are tall over six feet and they keep males as pets.
The male pets have more often than not more than one owner because the girls are in monogamous or polygamous lesbian relationships and share their pets.
They sometimes milk the males through sperm extractions similar to cow milk extractions but not for reproduction purposes because girls can reproduce through parthegonetic means and the males are produced through other mean. The male sperm is used for other purposes, maybe for some food ingridient or the boys are modified to produce milk through their testicles.
What do you think about this idea?
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Anon02/12/26, 09:09No.11471047
I think the story of an "outsider male" to the sort of worlds over here would be interesting. The oppressiveness of seeing how other males behave, how you're expected to behave, how other women might look at you with interest given your persistent personality. It'd be really interesting and hot seeing the male slowly losing the fight against the world.
Plus, infinite potential for scenarios as you can just have the guy going around observing the male-female dynamics
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Anon02/12/26, 21:50No.11471274
Looking for hot, derogatory words for men in matriarchal worlds. Something with the punchiness of "rape meat" or "fuck slut".
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Anon02/13/26, 00:29No.11471320
Imagine the ass to hip ratio between women and men if women were bigger than men, it would be so hot seeing the size difference.
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Anon02/13/26, 02:08No.11471349
What exactly is the woman's incentive to rape? Isn't it just gonna end up being a problem for her?
And what exactly is the downside to being raped by a woman for a man?
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Anon02/13/26, 06:32No.11471430
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Anon02/14/26, 13:45No.11472069
I guess...
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Anon02/15/26, 00:49No.11472403
>OP picrel
That's pretty hot. Don't see how that's really got to be a "matriarchy" though.
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Anon02/15/26, 22:04No.11472792
As much as one enjoys shlicking to pics discussion is something a more niche board like /d/ could benefit from more. These discussions are great and I am glad there are multiple viewpoints and angles for this fetish even if some anons disagree which is a good thing ultimately.
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Anon02/18/26, 11:30No.11474197
Also, to leave the thread with a little more discussion, what do anons think a boys college for this setting would look like?What subjects would they teach? Who teaches them? Is it just PE and Home Economics for two hours a day, or would they bother with more complex subjects like math and science? Is the rest like a day camp, or even a boarding resort?
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Anon02/19/26, 03:57No.11474547
I fantasize about helping a girl like this so much. Big boobs, curvy body, and her face looks so cute.
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Anon02/19/26, 13:22No.11474740
One way I love to depersonalise men in my own Matriarchal fantasy, is for men to have no serious naming conventions. In a world where women outnumber men (which is my favourite), boys would be common enough so that most extended familial units have one male in the house, however no more than two or three. Rather than being given names at birth, boys would first be addressed as solely the son of their birthmother/family unit and when later get married they are then addressed as the husband of the family unit. This way the entire self identity of a male throughout his life is tied to the female that has ownership of him at that specific time. Alongside hundreds of other subtle ways at which a boy's identity is shaped into the mold demanded by female society, any notion of seperation from female control would be made to be unthinkable to the vast majority of boys.
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Anon02/25/26, 01:52No.11477321
What's the equivalent of "alpha male" circles in your matriarchy? The red pill? Do your women need one?
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Anon02/26/26, 20:28No.11478080
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Anon02/26/26, 21:45No.11478130
Pretty sure this is against the rules of this board, but /b/ can't take itself seriously, so here it goes:What about a world in which all boys stayed as shotas?
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Anon02/26/26, 22:03No.11478139
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Anon02/27/26, 01:29No.11478244
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Anon03/01/26, 17:11No.11479375
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Anon03/03/26, 18:42No.11480335
fuark, I gotta write something for this thread. Maybe something where (You) get invited to a party but get cornered by a cryptosis the whole time, idk
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Anon03/03/26, 20:24No.11480363
Male equivalent of a tomboy in the matriarchy (with big strong women) grows up and has to come to terms with his masculinity
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Anon03/04/26, 06:00No.11480560
Man who is willing and capable of being a sparring partner in a martial arts group where men strong enough to keep pace are rare to see
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Anon03/06/26, 22:50No.11481809
I like big strong women
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Anon03/09/26, 09:33No.11482913
I really need more chauvinist, women like in this comic, a women holding herself back desperately.Anyone else have any thing like this? Books or anime.I need more feral dominant women.I really wish blue archive was actually like this, some role reversal.
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Anon03/10/26, 00:24No.11483184
me and my gf want to reverse the roles of society by being an openly matriarchal couple
Any advice on hw to achieve that?
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Anon03/11/26, 01:13No.11483658
>girls hit puberty later than boys
>you're the tallest in your class
>get a pretty big ego after being able to toss around a couple of girls in gym class during wrestling
>a whole 2 years of this
>summer break
>you come back to a class full of girls who're all your height or a few inches taller
>you can still hold your own during gym though
>spring
>every girl is at least a head taller than you
>most of them are in a completely different weight class
>you hear some of them making comments about how they wish they could still wrestle boys
>"i think being held down by anon awakened something in me"
>"i think all boys should wear singlets all the time"
>even the lanklet girl is impossible to budge
>she pins you
>her face is way too close to yours
>you struggle and flail but her arms are tense, immovable, hiding coiled steel.
>she smiles at the final count and holds the pin a bit longer than she needs to>you decide that wrestling's for losers
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Anon03/11/26, 05:51No.11483749
Some world where 50m tall giantesses and shipgirls are real and common, where their bodies and bones and muscles handle just fine like our-world women do...
But there are normal-sized women with muscles made of the same thing, who benefit from the square-cube law and can bench 800 lbs without training, or five times that for practised lifters
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Anon03/11/26, 06:49No.11483762
I think that gentle bearded dwarf men who enjoy tinkering and baking would make good husbands (or consorts).
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Anon03/13/26, 01:53No.11484584
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Anon03/18/26, 13:11No.11486911
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Anon03/20/26, 12:36No.11487611
Thought this kinda belongs here
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Anon03/21/26, 23:10No.11488166
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Anon03/22/26, 05:19No.11488313
It was somewhat of a culture shock when I found out that your men are allowed in cities without being blindfolded and bound. How do you keep them in control? Are the men in your country just naturally obedient and unable to cause inconvenience? How do their eyes and nerves stay sane in sacred places?
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Anon03/22/26, 06:13No.11488324
*but men get so desperate
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Anon03/23/26, 12:54No.11488918
The thread looks to be winding down, but one final idea I'd like to contribute is women having an innate sense of sexual "cuteness aggression" when it comes to men. Whenever a woman would see a boy she was sexually attracted to, she would have a powerful and uncontrollable urge to gently but forcefully assault the boy. Even if the woman may have no concious desire to rape boys they may be attracted to, seeing a boy who arouses her would naturally fill her head with intrusive thought about pinning the boy down, tearing off his clothes and using him like a toy. I always liked the idea (especially in a world where men are a minority) of women who may have males in their family and thus can empathetically understand the emotional harm of rape, yet on a primal level be barely unable to constrain themselves in normal circumstances. In areas where consent can be forced within the law (female blackmailer and boy, landlord and boy, employer and boy) or areas where the rule of law breaks down, maybe 85-90% of women rape men without a second thought.
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Anon03/25/26, 10:20No.11489794
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